Jun 01 2006
Bush Makes A Stand On Immigration
Anyone can see Bush is marking a line in the sand on what must be in any immigration bill coming out of Congress:
“The United States Congress needs to pass a comprehensive bill,” the president said. Bush said any legislation must include a temporary worker program and the opportunity for citizenship.
Emphasis mine. Bush has not had to use a veto because he has signalled when he will and Congress has rightfully avoided the political fallout of intra-party fighting. The House is in the spotlight now as the ones who will either produce something or go for nothing (again). My guess is they are on a political suicide rampage and will be able to junk any immigration legislation AND instead continue their drive to be an elite group above the nations laws. 20 years of not acting tells me the odds are Reps will blow it again. And of course this is all Bush’s fault.
What Bush never says it how many millions of guest workers, how many and exactly what the criteria is for the path to citizenship and who, exactly, is going to be deported. There could be minimum deportations, criminals only; 6 million guest workers who, along with dependents, would constitute most of the illegals; and a very stringent path to citizenship which would recognize the primacy of those already in line.
I am pro big-amnesty if the gift is legal working status, not so much if it’s citizenship, though some path should be there. And secure the damn border.
“The United States Congress needs to pass a comprehensive bill,†the president said. Bush said any legislation must include a temporary worker program and the opportunity for citizenship.
I think this is a waste of time, I think we should get the names and addresses (their home address in Mexico)of every illegal alien in the U S and start mailing them weekly checks for $1000 each to that home address and the only flood over the border would be to the South. It would save the US billions of dollars and everyone would be living where they wanted to live. Then 20 years from now there would be 66 million less illegals in the US than there would be if they just passed this stupid Amnesty for All bill that Pres. Bush is asking for.
Enforcement:
Well that is helpful. Now I know why it is that no one has dealt with the problem for the last 30 eyars. Too many people do not want to find solutions, they just want to complain and make smart ass useless comments.
Why shouldn’t Bush make a stand? Every since he was the Governor of Texas he has supported a guest worker program, it is not great big freaking shock to anyone paying attention and what is more the majority of Americans tend to agree with him.
But since the radical conservatives have decided that they really do not care if anything gets done or not, what are they complaining about? They will just keep on keeping on.
Terrye, since you seem to be so well versed on Texas politics, just exactly what was Bush’s stance on illegal immigration before he became governor? Please tell me. And don’t just throw something out there, provide links.
I think you will find that Bush said little to nothing about the issue when running for governor. He was running against Ann Richards and Republicans could hear that sucking noise as our state was rapidly going down the drain under Richards.
If you can provide me with Bush’s pre-election stance, then we will talk.
And remember, we are a minority-majority state.
We shold quit wasting our time and just invade Mexico.
Annex it before they do the same to us.
TERRYE, you keep referring to “radical republicans” just who do you include in this category along with you?
If you didn’t get the tongue in cheek solution I proposed, then I feel sorry for you.
No. It’s not a solution, but that lame a*s Amnesty for All bill that the Senate has up isn’t either.
By the way, tell me seriously that you don’t believe what I proposed wouldn’t work.
I know if the gov. was mailing me a check every week, I would be there to cash it. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. laughing all the way to the bank.
“Radical conservatives” are the otherwise conservatives that see the immigration issue as black or white. They are unable to acknowledge any advantages to the US from immigration. They self righteously harp on the “rule of law” demanding that no one be “rewarded” for having stayed here illegally. Instead of a workable law they want retribution. Anything less is a non starter.
“Radical conservatives” are the otherwise conservatives that see the immigration issue as black or white”.
Gee, Terrye, did you just forget to put in the word “illegal” in front of immigration?
Since you never answered my question, I will ask again:
do you not have a problem with someone that jumps your fence, breaks into your house and proceeds to live there as long as they pay their share of your house payment and utilities as long as they don’t rob you or commit some other crime?
Right on RETIRE05 yeah the question for TERRYE is how long does a burglar have to live in your house before you consider him a member of your family?
for MACKER: “Radical conservatives†are the otherwise conservatives that see the immigration issue as black or white. They are unable to acknowledge any advantages to the US from immigration. They self righteously harp on the “rule of law†demanding that no one be “rewarded†for having stayed here illegally. Instead of a workable law they want retribution. Anything less is a non starter.
put the word “illegal” in front of the word immigration each time, then tell me your opinion. here it is
“Radical conservatives†are the otherwise conservatives that see the “illegal” immigration issue as black or white. They are unable to acknowledge any advantages to the US from “illegal” immigration. They self righteously harp on the “rule of law†demanding that no one be “rewarded†for having stayed here illegally. Instead of a workable law they want retribution. Anything less is a non starter.
I kinda see these as middle of the road conservatives. I believe that people that are siding with the illegals and the flagrant violation of our laws as being the “radicals”
House republicans believe they have taken enough political hits for the benefit of the White House. Given the very clear mood of the public on immigration policy, these politicians will not commit suicide for a president who has not exactly been their bestest buddy. Either the Senate bill is dead, or come Novenber they will be. And they know it.
“I believe that people that are siding with the illegals and the flagrant violation of our laws as being the “radicalsâ€
How about the people that just want a workable law that reduces the “flagrant violations” by creating a guest worker plan that may include the illegals here now? Is that radical?
Macker, if you don’t mind, I’d like to appropriate your definition of radical conservatives. I will credit you of course. It’s very well written and accurate.
Have you seen the new post at BigLizards, reporting on Rep. Pence’s interview on Hugh Hewitt’s show? It appears to support AJ’s prediction that (so far) the House is not serious about producing any viable legislation.