Sep 13 2006

FISA Requires Warrant To Spy?

Published by at 7:34 pm under All General Discussions,FISA-NSA

I have argued many times that FISA never intended to infringe on the right of the military to snoop on our enemies. No one in their right mind would require a court warrant in WW II before we could acquire the Nazi’s Enigma device or the Japanese secret codes and use them to learn what we needed to defend this country and win the war. But it seems that the Wall between intel and law enforcement that grew from an overzealous fear of Presidential abuse of power apparently did encroatch on the Commander-in-Chief’s role as head of the military. I can understand why you would not want intelligence guiding our law enforcement processes and resources here, but conversely you don’t want to get permission via the DoJ or FBI to eavesdrop and/or on Al Qaeda (which, strictly speaking, includes predators overflights and monitoring). But apparently, according the Talking Points the NSA developed for Congress on the Terrorist Surveillance Program, there was policy “mission creep” as more and more barriers were deemed needed between law enforcement and intel. To the point where warrants were supposedly needed to SPY on our enemies! Check this out:

Today, in part because of technological changes over the last 30 years, the FISA frequently requires judicial authority to collect communications of non-US persons outside the United States. This clogs the FISA process with applications for court orders that have little to do with protecting US privacy rights.

The FISA should be ammended so that it is technology neutral. This would return it to its original purpose of focusing FISA privacy protections on Americans in the United States. It would greatly improve the FISA process and relieve the massive amounts of resources currently being consumed.

Emphasis mine. This adds a whole new twist to the unnecessary wall that legal theorists erected because government lawyers tend to use simple minded solutions to complex problems. Instead of dealing with tough cases, they eliminate them by disallowing them. In the technology export world I work in, this means treating an ethernet cable as a munitions under export control because it is used to connect the computers flying satellites. Instead of having to understand what is general purpose technology (like a CAT-5 cable) verses something we need to protect so it cannot be used against us, the government said anything used to operate satellites is controlled technology. Simple for them, ridiculous in practice.

What I am seeing here is similar. Clearly worried about incidental contacts (something the Church Committee acknowledged in the late 70’s happens and is NOT a problem) it seems there were some secret policies that were overly cautious and restricted spying on people overseas. Probably if there was a chance they might come in contact with a US person or someone in the US. Back in the 80’s, before the internet and cell phones, his was probably not considered overly restrictive. It is now of course. Any legal eagles claiming the generals needs to get a warrant to spy on our enemies? Because that seems to be the linchpin issue here. An outdated, overly cautious policy that allowed 9-11 highjackers to talk to their masters overseas without any ability of the intel community to alert law enforcement.

This ridiculous policy creep is probably why Specter and others are working to authorize what Bush is doing and modernize FISA. Tom Maguire reports on Specter’s legislation being passed out of committee – which allows Bush to continue as is and get a FIS Court review, which will concur as they did in 2002.

7 responses so far

7 Responses to “FISA Requires Warrant To Spy?”

  1. The ACLU Still Beating A Dead Horse On NSA Legislation…

    Today the mental midget who is the Director of the ACLU Washington Legislative Office, Caroline Fredrickson, issued a news release expressing the ACLU’s condemnation of Senate Judiciary Committee’s approval for the bills dealing with the N…

  2. karlmaher says:

    AJ, drop me a line, will you? I have info I don’t want to put in comments, and I can’t find your email anywhere on the site.

  3. karlmaher says:

    I guess it would help if you had my email: kmaher@wka.com

  4. Bush Scores Twice…

    I’m not a lawyer so I will defer to those who are. But, these two bills seem logical in the fight to protect Americans and America.

    Hugh Hewitt thinks the GOP will use this as a hammer in the election, I tend to agree. For an idiot, Bush sure does …

  5. Ken says:

    This is response to Wiley on the “Dems blocked in” post, which I can’t seem to access. Wiley says I shouldn’t believe leaked CIA reports because they are out to get Bush, when I refer to them as maintaining US occupation of Iraq causes worldwide jihadism to grow enough as to infer we should exit Iraq.

    The problem is this,Wiley: counterterrorism’s blog and a host of others generally favorable to continuing the Iraq War also say the jihad is growing at a troublesome rate, latest examples being Pakistan
    and Afghanistan.

    Collate that with three years of (charitably put) overly optimistic appraisals of insurgency “decline” in Iraq by Bush Adminstration shills and US military, and I would be naeive if I DIDN”T believe the leaked reports.

    Which the Bush-defenders and believers in the possibility, still, of
    a political victory in the Iraq War give every appearance of being.

  6. For Enforcement says:

    leaked CIA reports because they are out to get Bush,

    Hey naive Ken, by definition, leaked CIA reports are from sympathizers to the Dems and are out to get Bush.

    Patriotic CIA doesn’t leak, they may not like Bush,, but at leak they are patriotic.

    Just out of curiosity, Ken, would you rather the war on terror be fought in Iraq or on the streets of the USA?
    No wait…. I didn’t really ask you that, did I? You don’t have to answer I already know the answer.

  7. wiley says:

    Ken,
    Some things are difficult & take time. Unfortunately, our sound-bite, impatient culture has many supporters going wobbly. And the partisan, anti-Bush drumbeat from the Dems abetted by the MSM presents a divided, unhappy country to the world, further empowering our enemies. Is our efforts in Afghanistan & Iraq causing a surge in the number of world-wide jihadists? I’m skeptical (they were growing prior to Iraq). Are radicals making their way to Iraq & Afghanistan to keep the insurgency going? You bet — this could be their last stands, of course they’re fighting like mad. They understand the stakes, unlike too many in the West.