Feb 06 2009
Young, Innocent New Born Killed At Birth
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Don’t think some people are more robot than human? Don’t think some people see others as literally disposable resources? Then read about the horrific incident in an abortion clinic in Florida:
Eighteen and pregnant, Sycloria Williams went to an abortion clinic outside Miami and paid $1,200 for Dr. Pierre Jean-Jacque Renelique to terminate her 23-week pregnancy.
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What Williams and the Health Department say happened next has shocked people on both sides of the abortion debate: One of the clinic’s owners, who has no medical license, cut the infant’s umbilical cord. Williams says the woman placed the baby in a plastic biohazard bag and threw it out.
The picture above is, of course, not of the human being wrapped up into a trash bag and tossed. It is the picture of a human being humanity let live and cherished.
And I am sure there are many people who could care less, and some researchers pulling their hair out saying “we could have used that corpse in our research”! Heck, its just an overaged embryo with spare parts, including masses of stem cells just waiting to become someone else’s spare parts.
Humans as disposable or recyclable items – against their will. What a Brave New World we have wrought.
I don’t want to say anything to make me sound heartless, I’m not. I very much favor people not having abortions. In the case you’re talking about, it wasn’t an abortion, it was a murder and I’m sure that’s not what she wanted. I don’t have a big problem with 1st term abortions, but once you’ve gotten to the “it’s a baby ” stage. My personal belief is that it’s a baby from conception, but I can understand the need for ‘early’ abortions.
When that young woman was told she was 23 weeks along, she knew it was a baby, but she still ‘wanted to get rid of it’ . I realize she didn’t want to know about the details. I wish she had just decided to let it be born and adopt it. I’m sure she’ll live with that pain all her life, but I truly hope she can get over it without too much emotional damage to herself. I’m sure if she could know the results and have a do over, she would do it different. Pray for her and her family.
Abortion is the one topic that the politicians have used to drive a wedge between Americans and create the appearance of a “two party” system. No matter how you look at it, the procedure ends life, call it murder, a woman’s right, population control, whatever, the woman involved will live with that decision for the rest of her life—which is something I am sure the abortion advocates discount—and probably not a single day will pass wondering “what if”. The adoption of the child would relieve at least one part of that question.
If estimates of the number of abortions in America (i’ve heard 47 million) are accurate, then think where we would be if they had not taken place—-47 million more mouths to feed or 47 million more productive Americans? I look at at as economic darwinism—if your social values allow you to live with those decisions then you are serving to eliminate that “gene” from the pool and those with more conservative values should become more numerous and hopefully influential on the rest of the folks. Liberal thinking once again contributing to its own demise.
I was trying to find a way to form my thoughts; and, I couldn’t find the words.
Then I read this….
and, it sums up my thoughts perfectly….
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“Despite any protestations of horror on the part of pro-abortion people, one does have to ask: what did this “doctor†and his staff do wrong? The point was to wind up with a dead baby, and a dead baby is what they wound up with. All abortions are this – a baby is killed. This one just happened to be killed in public, as it were.
What of it, you “pro-choice†people?
Abortion is the enemy of hope – and the enemy of basic, human decency. ”
http://blogsforvictory.com/2009/02/06/what-abortion-is/
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A baby is just a much “alive” in the womb as it is out of the womb. A baby is just as much alive in its first day in the womb as it’s last day in the womb. Isn’t it?
This was the discussion that Obama voted for when in the legislative job in Ill.. If the intension is to abort and not have a child to care for, how ever that happens is ok with Obama. Go home with no child how ever it happens. If life, liberty and happiness is protected by the constitution, then abortion is off the table at what ever stage that happens. There is no way to have it both ways. Trying to have it both ways leads to this heart breaking picture.
Redteam,
I usually am in agreement with you.
But, I don’t think it’s just a matter of “personal belief “as to whether a fetus is a baby.
It is alive.
It has its own identifying DNA.
It has brain waves.
It feels pain.
It is human.
There was a time when some Europeans didn’t “believe” aborigines were human . The science is there and I’m not willing to accept that it is just a matter of religious belief or personal opinion.
Kathie picked up on it: This was exactly the situation Obama voted on in Illinois. Obama voted not to require a doctor be present in the event of a live birth.
This situation points out the problem the pro abortion side has. It was a fetus before it was born and a child afterwords. But, what is the real difference? Was it any less of a child five minutes earlier before the abortion was initiated?
Sure, Redteam points out that after birth it was technically murder. But, again, what is the real difference between that fetus and that baby? Are we really going to say that it is OK if the fetus in the womb, but not if it outside the womb? That hardly makes for an interesting difference.
Rick
Rick,
A distinction without a difference.
Macker:
Redteam,
I usually am in agreement with you.
But, I don’t think it’s just a matter of “personal belief “as to whether a fetus is a baby.
It is alive.
It has its own identifying DNA.
I’m pretty sure we’re still pretty much in agreement because I also said:
I don’t have a big problem with 1st term abortions, but once you’ve gotten to the “it’s a baby †stage. My personal belief is that it’s a baby from conception, but I can understand the need for ‘early’ abortions.
While a baby is a baby from conception on, there are still times when an abortion probably should be the answer. I don’t care to define the right reasons, but they would include instances of, for example, the baby is not viable, has severe defects, etc.
Frogg came close to what I was thinking: ” the objective of the woman and the doctor was a dead baby” but the woman didn’t want to know all the gory details. but she ended up with both a dead baby and the gory details.
Good news……….
Doctor loses license in live birth abortion case (Dr. Pierre Jean-Jacques Renelique)