Jun 07 2009
Global Warming?
Hey Chicken Littles, how’s that Global Warming doing for you?
Snow has fallen in Dickinson in June, the first time in nearly 60 years the city has seen snow past May.
National Weather Service meteorologist Janine Vining in Bismarck says there were unofficial reports of a couple of inches of snow in Dickinson on Saturday.
Vining says snow in North Dakota in June is uncommon, though it’s not unheard of. She says other parts of the state have seen June snow within the past 10 years.
Is that white stuff the sky falling? The ‘Al Gore effect ‘is in full force (whenever Gore tries to speak, hell (or where he is talking) freezes over). The more the hysterics cry about global warming the colder it gets.
Update: WUWT has even more stories of surprise cold around the globe. Al, please take a breather before we all freeze to death!
Unintended consequences of bloviating?
Unintended consequences of bloviating?
Here in New York City, I have yet to use my air conditioner this year.
Last week it was in the low 30s at night in Sullivan County.
So much for Globaloney warming…
You don’t understand, more Snow at odd times is just Proof of Global Climate Change! So are Glaciers that grow instead of shrink. In fact, EVERYTHING is proof of climate change and it’s all OUR FAULT!!!!
See how easy that was?
Groan. The only number I’m interested in is annual average global temperatures– not localized cold snaps. This shows that you don’t understand even the definition of global warming. Or, you are deliberately misleading your readers. Either way, I’m not sure why I continue to read this blog. You’re reasonable on some issues, but this is far outweighed by your extreme unreason on others.
Don’t worry, I won’t let the door hit me on the ass.
According to Al Gore’s logic……any change in temperature (even if it is colder) is global warming.
I’m beginning to think that Russian scientist had it right. You know, the one who predicted we are entering a period of global cooling (not global warming).
giantslor
There is no ‘global temperature’ measurement of any precision that goes back more than 15 years. Don’t you “know” that?
And (as I know you’ve read, AJ) even the precision claimed for the most recent measurements is seriously in doubt. Anthony Watts has published a detailed study of the surface measuring stations in the US and found that 89% of the stations “fail to meet the Weather Services own siting guidelines.”
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/temperature-stations-global-2433763-heat-watts
Mistakes such as placing temperature sensors near air conditioning exhaust vents and next to asphalt parking lots are quite common. The systemic error built into the measuring system appears to be much greater than the reported change. (meaning that the reported rate of change numbers are statistically meaningless)
There *are* satellite temperature measurements that are not affected by this problem – here is the most recent chart from the RSS feed. (this chart tracks anomaly, rather than raw temperature data, ie, the first derivative. It’s easier to detect changes graphically with that presentation.)
http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/rss-may-2009.png
The 1998 spike is the now famous El Nino peak.
Note the dramatic cooling trend in place over the last 2 1/2 years.
“AJStrataon 08 Jun 2009 at 7:50 am
giantslor
There is no ‘global temperature’ measurement of any precision that goes back more than 15 years. Don’t you “know†that?”
Let’s try for some perspective, time-wise.
For those comfortable with the metric (S.I.) system, imagine a line about 4.6 kilometers long (a bit under 3 miles). That would represent the age of the Earth at 1,000,000 years/meter; 1 mm (about the thickness of a paper clip) would represent a THOUSAND years.
Quite a few large cities would manage to fit their “downtown” within that space, with room to spare. Here in Houston, the downtown streets were laid out at 16 to the mile, making their spacing close enough to 100 meters for government work. Thus, that line would be about 46 blocks.
The dinosaur’s reign ended around 65 million years ago (65 meters, about 2/3 of a city block down that line from today).
The first of our ancestors verging on intelligence may have emerged from 2 to 4 million years ago (say 6.5 to 13 feet; your living room could be around 4 meters in one of its’ dimensions).
What we call “modern” man may go back to 40,000 years (40 mm, TWO finger-widths on that line).
Written history goes back 6000 years (six millimeters, 1/4 inch on that line).
Fahrenheit’s thermometer is just under 300 years old ( 0.3 mm, you’re approaching paper thickness now).
The portion of that time-line during which precision measurements were recorded would be literally microscopic.
And with that pitiful experience, we dare to make really long range predictions, and mandate actions based on them?
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More about that stuff they told you in school that was wrong … Earth Losing Atmosphere Faster than Venus, Mars
“We often tell ourselves that we are very fortunate living on this planet because we have this strong magnetic shield that protects us from all sorts of things that the cosmos throws at us — cosmic rays, solar flares and the pesky solar wind,” said Christopher Russell, a professor of geophysics and space physics at the University of California, Los Angeles.
“It certainly does help in some of those areas but … in the case of the atmosphere, this may not be true,” he said.
I’m not sure what they can tax to fix this problem.