Comments on: Idiots Trying To Play Scientist http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/10295 High Flying Political Debate Thu, 24 May 2012 14:43:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: sbd http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/10295/comment-page-1#comment-484969 sbd Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:52:53 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=10295#comment-484969 Mud Volcanoes do the same exact thing. I saw the sea bubbling when I was in Sicily and in particular between Vulcano and Stromboli. Stromboli was erupting and continues to erupt. I think it has been non-stop for over 3,000 years. Anyways, here is a <a href="http://66.135.39.97/webcatalog/StoreBuilder/ObamaMortgageCrisis/photofile/18%7Ewater%20bubbling.jpg" rel="nofollow">picture</a> of the bubbling water in the Mediterranean Sea. SBD Mud Volcanoes do the same exact thing. I saw the sea bubbling when I was in Sicily and in particular between Vulcano and Stromboli. Stromboli was erupting and continues to erupt. I think it has been non-stop for over 3,000 years.

Anyways, here is a picture of the bubbling water in the Mediterranean Sea.

SBD

]]> By: theBuckWheat http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/10295/comment-page-1#comment-484332 theBuckWheat Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:37:36 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=10295#comment-484332 This just serves as yet more proof that our planet is almost awash in hydrocarbons. Any of these sources could be converted into usable liquid motor vehicle fuels. The only issue is that of cost and time. We are not running out of hydrocarbons from which to make fuels, not by a long shot. This just serves as yet more proof that our planet is almost awash in hydrocarbons. Any of these sources could be converted into usable liquid motor vehicle fuels. The only issue is that of cost and time. We are not running out of hydrocarbons from which to make fuels, not by a long shot.

]]> By: WWS http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/10295/comment-page-1#comment-484247 WWS Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:43:08 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=10295#comment-484247 Oh, but crosspatch, anything natural is "good". Natural pollution therefore MUST be good. It comes from the earth, so it must be organic!!! (as stupid a term as could possibly be applied to food, btw) It would be a SIN to interfere with Gaia!!! And of course remember that natural gas is good because it is not a fossil fuel. These people are off message. “I believe in natural gas as a clean, cheap alternative to fossil fuels,” she said at one point. Natural gas “is cheap, abundant and clean compared to fossil fuels,” . - Nancy Pelosi Oh, but crosspatch, anything natural is “good”. Natural pollution therefore MUST be good. It comes from the earth, so it must be organic!!! (as stupid a term as could possibly be applied to food, btw) It would be a SIN to interfere with Gaia!!!

And of course remember that natural gas is good because it is not a fossil fuel. These people are off message.

“I believe in natural gas as a clean, cheap alternative to fossil fuels,” she said at one point. Natural gas “is cheap, abundant and clean compared to fossil fuels,” . – Nancy Pelosi

]]> By: crosspatch http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/10295/comment-page-1#comment-484127 crosspatch Wed, 19 Aug 2009 00:10:10 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=10295#comment-484127 Arctic temperatures <a href="http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php" rel="nofollow">have been below normal</a> this year above 80N latitude. Also, temperatures were much higher 5000 to 7000 years ago and sea levels were about 2 meters higher than today. It is likely that the pole was ice free in summer at that time. And the last interglacial was warmer than this one has been with sea levels about 10m higher than during this one and maximum forest extent about 300 to 400 miles North of today's forest line. The North pole region would have certainly been ice free during summers in that period. Generally, ocean temperatures have been cooling for the past 5 years, not warming. But what is really moronic is that there are rather massive natural gas (methane) and oil seeps off the coast of California (Coal Oil Point in particular) but since all drilling is banned, we can not drill there, collect the gas and oil, and eliminate this gas and oil contaminating the environment. Environmentalists are purposely contaminating the environment and the air of California due to nothing more than their irrational hatred of all energy companies. Arctic temperatures have been below normal this year above 80N latitude.

Also, temperatures were much higher 5000 to 7000 years ago and sea levels were about 2 meters higher than today. It is likely that the pole was ice free in summer at that time.

And the last interglacial was warmer than this one has been with sea levels about 10m higher than during this one and maximum forest extent about 300 to 400 miles North of today’s forest line. The North pole region would have certainly been ice free during summers in that period.

Generally, ocean temperatures have been cooling for the past 5 years, not warming.

But what is really moronic is that there are rather massive natural gas (methane) and oil seeps off the coast of California (Coal Oil Point in particular) but since all drilling is banned, we can not drill there, collect the gas and oil, and eliminate this gas and oil contaminating the environment. Environmentalists are purposely contaminating the environment and the air of California due to nothing more than their irrational hatred of all energy companies.

]]> By: WWS http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/10295/comment-page-1#comment-484122 WWS Tue, 18 Aug 2009 22:39:07 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=10295#comment-484122 And just to add on to all the bad science in that article, all the talk about this coming from "methane hydrates" is purely theoretical. There is absolutely no physical confirmation that this is the case; it could just as easily be coming from gas seeps deep in the rocks beneath the ocean. (which would be my guess, although I'd like to see it confirmed by experiment) So why do they go so overboard with claiming it has to be methane hydrates, with no evidence? Because if it's coming from the deep geology, it has always been happening and it can have nothing to do with man. The only way to even pretend it has something to do with man is to pretend it fits the half baked theory they've cooked up, and it only works if they claim that "the hydrates are melting, oh my, oh my!!!" Oh, and if memory serves the deep ocean is ALWAYS 4 degrees C. That is the point at which water is at it's densest; any deviation from that and the water rises. The layer of water at the bottom of the deep ocean CANNOT heat up due to that little quirk of physical chemistry. And that's elementary, my dear watson. And just to add on to all the bad science in that article, all the talk about this coming from “methane hydrates” is purely theoretical. There is absolutely no physical confirmation that this is the case; it could just as easily be coming from gas seeps deep in the rocks beneath the ocean. (which would be my guess, although I’d like to see it confirmed by experiment)

So why do they go so overboard with claiming it has to be methane hydrates, with no evidence? Because if it’s coming from the deep geology, it has always been happening and it can have nothing to do with man. The only way to even pretend it has something to do with man is to pretend it fits the half baked theory they’ve cooked up, and it only works if they claim that “the hydrates are melting, oh my, oh my!!!”

Oh, and if memory serves the deep ocean is ALWAYS 4 degrees C. That is the point at which water is at it’s densest; any deviation from that and the water rises. The layer of water at the bottom of the deep ocean CANNOT heat up due to that little quirk of physical chemistry.

And that’s elementary, my dear watson.

]]> By: MerlinOS2 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/10295/comment-page-1#comment-484118 MerlinOS2 Tue, 18 Aug 2009 21:31:07 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=10295#comment-484118 As an old submarine sailor with a few trips to the pole under my belt I can remember the 'layers' that the sonar types always kept track of for tactical reasons. But even we had a range of depths that we surveyed and kept track of. I have seen discussions of the potential of the vast quantities of methane hydrates as a fuel source but being fought by the enviro types that attempting to go after it would risk a major release to the surface with all the usual sky is falling tales. As an old submarine sailor with a few trips to the pole under my belt I can remember the ‘layers’ that the sonar types always kept track of for tactical reasons.

But even we had a range of depths that we surveyed and kept track of.

I have seen discussions of the potential of the vast quantities of methane hydrates as a fuel source but being fought by the enviro types that attempting to go after it would risk a major release to the surface with all the usual sky is falling tales.

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