Comments on: Van Jones Resigns Because Americans Don’t Want Him http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/10405 High Flying Political Debate Thu, 24 May 2012 15:09:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: BarbaraS http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/10405/comment-page-1#comment-490124 BarbaraS Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:13:18 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=10405#comment-490124 I can't find the post about Alan Keyes lawsuit. Yes, Whomever, google is dumb about it. All I could see was a lot of snark but nothing recent. But then Google owners are rabid Obama fans. The post I read said the suit was filed with the Secretary of State California with a judge named David sonething who was a former marine and very strict about the Constitution. The post said the suit would not be dismissed like the other birth certificate suits were. The lawyer for Keyes has a Kenyan birth certificate. The lawsuit will be Wednesday morning at 8am. That's all I remember. I wish I cold remember the judge's last name. I would have been able to track it down then. I can’t find the post about Alan Keyes lawsuit. Yes, Whomever, google is dumb about it. All I could see was a lot of snark but nothing recent. But then Google owners are rabid Obama fans.

The post I read said the suit was filed with the Secretary of
State California with a judge named David sonething who was a former marine and very strict about the Constitution. The post said the suit would not be dismissed like the other birth certificate suits were. The lawyer for Keyes has a Kenyan birth certificate. The lawsuit will be Wednesday morning at 8am. That’s all I remember. I wish I cold remember the judge’s last name. I would have been able to track it down then.

]]> By: crosspatch http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/10405/comment-page-1#comment-489221 crosspatch Sun, 06 Sep 2009 22:22:42 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=10405#comment-489221 "It is not as if most of them actually know any regular people." They think they ARE regular people. And the probably believe that "normal" people think just like they do. They have a hard time distinguishing stuff in the media that validates their wishes from reality. They forget that the mainstream media is a propaganda outlet for their own agenda and so they look at what the media produces and come to the conclusion that it represents mainstream thought when it doesn't. It is called a positive feedback loop ... or "breathing your own exhaust". You want A to be true. So does the media. So the media prints stuff that would validate A being true. You read the media and see what they are printing and believe A to be true in "mainstream" thought so you act as if it is ... except the media no longer represents mainstream thought. The people actually do not buy into concept "A" and so you have created a huge backlash and you are having trouble figuring out why. Until the press returns to having outlets for multiple agendas, it is best not used as a gauge of general opinion in the US. “It is not as if most of them actually know any regular people.”

They think they ARE regular people. And the probably believe that “normal” people think just like they do. They have a hard time distinguishing stuff in the media that validates their wishes from reality. They forget that the mainstream media is a propaganda outlet for their own agenda and so they look at what the media produces and come to the conclusion that it represents mainstream thought when it doesn’t. It is called a positive feedback loop … or “breathing your own exhaust”.

You want A to be true. So does the media. So the media prints stuff that would validate A being true. You read the media and see what they are printing and believe A to be true in “mainstream” thought so you act as if it is … except the media no longer represents mainstream thought. The people actually do not buy into concept “A” and so you have created a huge backlash and you are having trouble figuring out why. Until the press returns to having outlets for multiple agendas, it is best not used as a gauge of general opinion in the US.

]]> By: Terrye http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/10405/comment-page-1#comment-489216 Terrye Sun, 06 Sep 2009 19:36:24 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=10405#comment-489216 I just think the Obama thought that this guy was just fine. They did not have any problem with his views, as usual they were blindsided by the reaction of regular people. It is not as if most of them actually know any regular people. I just think the Obama thought that this guy was just fine. They did not have any problem with his views, as usual they were blindsided by the reaction of regular people. It is not as if most of them actually know any regular people.

]]> By: crosspatch http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/10405/comment-page-1#comment-489215 crosspatch Sun, 06 Sep 2009 19:33:51 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=10405#comment-489215 Harry Reid is probably gone from the Senate. I don't think there is much he is going to be able to do in the next 14 months to prevent that. Pelosi's seat is safe. She is from a fairly "radical" district in San Francisco and I don't see any Democrats challenging her in the primary. Both Republicans in the district will vote against her but it won't matter. But I don't think she will be elected speaker again even if the Democrats maintain control of the House. Harry Reid is probably gone from the Senate. I don’t think there is much he is going to be able to do in the next 14 months to prevent that. Pelosi’s seat is safe. She is from a fairly “radical” district in San Francisco and I don’t see any Democrats challenging her in the primary. Both Republicans in the district will vote against her but it won’t matter. But I don’t think she will be elected speaker again even if the Democrats maintain control of the House.

]]> By: Trent_Telenko http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/10405/comment-page-1#comment-489208 Trent_Telenko Sun, 06 Sep 2009 19:05:00 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=10405#comment-489208 Van Jones is to the Obama Administration's domestic policies what Andrew Young was to the Jimmy Carter Administration's foreign policy. . A man saying publicly what the Administration really believed behind closed doors...and didn't want the American public to hear. . This has consequences when the Main Stream Media is in your back pocket and won't give you meaningful critical feedback. . The "Army of David" effect of this will show up for Pres. Obama much like it did for VP Al Gore in 2000. . Gore lost Tennessee in large part because a lot of local Tennessee papers picked up a World Net Daily series on Gore family political corruption that the Main Stream Media ignored. . Thus the Gore for President Campaign ignored Tennessee -- who needs to defend his home state -- until late election Democratic internal polling suddenly showed Bush43 was leading there by an unbeatable, with remaining Gore 2000 resources, margin. . In 2010 there are a lot of “blue area” Democrats that are going to “Get Gored” like Tennessee circa 2000. Van Jones is to the Obama Administration’s domestic policies what Andrew Young was to the Jimmy Carter Administration’s foreign policy.
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A man saying publicly what the Administration really believed behind closed doors…and didn’t want the American public to hear.
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This has consequences when the Main Stream Media is in your back pocket and won’t give you meaningful critical feedback.
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The “Army of David” effect of this will show up for Pres. Obama much like it did for VP Al Gore in 2000.
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Gore lost Tennessee in large part because a lot of local Tennessee papers picked up a World Net Daily series on Gore family political corruption that the Main Stream Media ignored.
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Thus the Gore for President Campaign ignored Tennessee — who needs to defend his home state — until late election Democratic internal polling suddenly showed Bush43 was leading there by an unbeatable, with remaining Gore 2000 resources, margin.
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In 2010 there are a lot of “blue area” Democrats that are going to “Get Gored” like Tennessee circa 2000.

]]> By: Whomever http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/10405/comment-page-1#comment-489140 Whomever Sun, 06 Sep 2009 16:08:50 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=10405#comment-489140 Barbara - yes, what upcoming Wednesday Alan Keyes suit, as lurker asks? I Googled it but Google is dumb (mute) about it. Barbara – yes, what upcoming Wednesday Alan Keyes suit, as lurker asks? I Googled it but Google is dumb (mute) about it.

]]> By: WWS http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/10405/comment-page-1#comment-489104 WWS Sun, 06 Sep 2009 14:00:27 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=10405#comment-489104 In trying to game the timing of this announcement in the most pathetic way possible, Obama and Axelrod have once again stabbed the MSM, his most faithful servants, in the back. Wonder if they'll notice. Why say that? Because I see this morning that the announcement was made JUST late enough so that none of the Sunday morning papers could cover it. Oh, that's clever - so clever that anyone who's interested in this story (which is just about everyone) is forced to go the internet and the alternative media to find out the scoop. By the time the MSM gets around to it, the story will be over a day old, and what good is that? Hopefully they won't talk about it at all, right? Force all the reliable customers away from old line media and onto the alternative, internet media. Yeah, great plan. Heck of a business model you got there, guys!!! In trying to game the timing of this announcement in the most pathetic way possible, Obama and Axelrod have once again stabbed the MSM, his most faithful servants, in the back. Wonder if they’ll notice.

Why say that? Because I see this morning that the announcement was made JUST late enough so that none of the Sunday morning papers could cover it. Oh, that’s clever – so clever that anyone who’s interested in this story (which is just about everyone) is forced to go the internet and the alternative media to find out the scoop. By the time the MSM gets around to it, the story will be over a day old, and what good is that? Hopefully they won’t talk about it at all, right?

Force all the reliable customers away from old line media and onto the alternative, internet media. Yeah, great plan. Heck of a business model you got there, guys!!!

]]> By: Jones calls it quits at the absolute bottom of the news cycle | Radio Vice Online http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/10405/comment-page-1#comment-489103 Jones calls it quits at the absolute bottom of the news cycle | Radio Vice Online Sun, 06 Sep 2009 12:54:34 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=10405#comment-489103 [...] over at Power Line has a good recap. This morning, Malkin, Gateway Pundit, Sister Toldja, and AJ at Strata-Sphere writes … Van Jones is just the first sign that team Obama knows it needs to move smartly away from [...] [...] over at Power Line has a good recap. This morning, Malkin, Gateway Pundit, Sister Toldja, and AJ at Strata-Sphere writes … Van Jones is just the first sign that team Obama knows it needs to move smartly away from [...]

]]> By: lurker9876 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/10405/comment-page-1#comment-489102 lurker9876 Sun, 06 Sep 2009 12:53:31 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=10405#comment-489102 kittymeyers, your husband may be right...Wright was allegedly advising Obama after Wright was thrown under the bus. What about Frank Raines and that other guy (who had to resign from the VP panel) that ran Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to the ground? Now those are the events that should have raised huge red flags with the 53 million people that voted for Obama. But they did not. Why? MSM? What? They had their blinders on???? Even though Van Jones won't be on the WH payroll and still advising BHO, Glenn Beck, Redstate, Gateway Pundit, et al, had better continue to report that Van continues to advise BHO. kittymeyers, your husband may be right…Wright was allegedly advising Obama after Wright was thrown under the bus.

What about Frank Raines and that other guy (who had to resign from the VP panel) that ran Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to the ground?

Now those are the events that should have raised huge red flags with the 53 million people that voted for Obama. But they did not. Why? MSM? What? They had their blinders on????

Even though Van Jones won’t be on the WH payroll and still advising BHO, Glenn Beck, Redstate, Gateway Pundit, et al, had better continue to report that Van continues to advise BHO.

]]> By: lurker9876 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/10405/comment-page-1#comment-489101 lurker9876 Sun, 06 Sep 2009 12:51:11 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=10405#comment-489101 kittymeyers, your husband may be right...Wright was allegedly advising Obama after Wright was thrown under the bus. What about Frank Raines and that other guy (who had to resign from the VP panel) that ran Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to the ground? Now those are the events that should have raised huge red flags with the 53 million people that voted for Obama. But they did not. Why? MSM? What? They had their blinders on???? kittymeyers, your husband may be right…Wright was allegedly advising Obama after Wright was thrown under the bus.

What about Frank Raines and that other guy (who had to resign from the VP panel) that ran Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to the ground?

Now those are the events that should have raised huge red flags with the 53 million people that voted for Obama. But they did not. Why? MSM? What? They had their blinders on????

]]> By: lurker9876 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/10405/comment-page-1#comment-489099 lurker9876 Sun, 06 Sep 2009 12:44:57 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=10405#comment-489099 I thought White House took its time to get rid of Van Jones. Too slow to get rid of him. Why? Because they either did not vet him or tried to cover up things about Van Jones. IMHO, I think it is too late for Obama to reset himself as a centrist. As the rest of the CZARS go under the bus, the less America trusts Obama. Worse if Valerie Jarrett goes under the bus because Valerie is Obama's closest advisor. One should look closer into her connections with both Michelle and Barack. That video of Valerie from a few weeks ago about Van Jones isn't going to help her at all. What Alan Keyes lawsuit? Obama's birth certificate or his abortion arrest at Notre Dame? I thought White House took its time to get rid of Van Jones. Too slow to get rid of him. Why? Because they either did not vet him or tried to cover up things about Van Jones.

IMHO, I think it is too late for Obama to reset himself as a centrist. As the rest of the CZARS go under the bus, the less America trusts Obama. Worse if Valerie Jarrett goes under the bus because Valerie is Obama’s closest advisor. One should look closer into her connections with both Michelle and Barack. That video of Valerie from a few weeks ago about Van Jones isn’t going to help her at all.

What Alan Keyes lawsuit? Obama’s birth certificate or his abortion arrest at Notre Dame?

]]> By: BarbaraS http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/10405/comment-page-1#comment-489095 BarbaraS Sun, 06 Sep 2009 12:17:10 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=10405#comment-489095 Obama knew what Van Jones was. Where is the much vaunted application that each WH applicant has to fill out telling about their lives down to how they cut their toenails? This guy has surrounded himself with communists. This one was brought into the light of day. I wonder who Glenn Beck will go after next? Hopefully all of them. The field is immense. We have no control over who Obama associates with or who advises him but this guy is off the payroll. Out in the open anyway. With the gigantic budget congress gave him Obama is pretty much independent of any checks and balances. OT I read that Wednesday at 8 a.m. the Alan Keyes suit will be heard and not just pushed aside like all the others. Maybe this is the reason for Obama's talk to the school kids. A distraction, if you will. I question the timing. Obama knew what Van Jones was. Where is the much vaunted application that each WH applicant has to fill out telling about their lives down to how they cut their toenails? This guy has surrounded himself with communists. This one was brought into the light of day. I wonder who Glenn Beck will go after next? Hopefully all of them. The field is immense.

We have no control over who Obama associates with or who advises him but this guy is off the payroll. Out in the open anyway. With the gigantic budget congress gave him Obama is pretty much independent of any checks and balances.

OT I read that Wednesday at 8 a.m. the Alan Keyes suit will be heard and not just pushed aside like all the others. Maybe this is the reason for Obama’s talk to the school kids. A distraction, if you will. I question the timing.

]]> By: kittymyers http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/10405/comment-page-1#comment-489070 kittymyers Sun, 06 Sep 2009 11:47:36 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=10405#comment-489070 My husband pointed out that simply because Van Jones resigned doesn't mean he won't be advising the president. ... My husband pointed out that simply because Van Jones resigned doesn’t mean he won’t be advising the president.

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]]> By: kathie http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/10405/comment-page-1#comment-489045 kathie Sun, 06 Sep 2009 06:58:35 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=10405#comment-489045 WWS....I agree, that while the media thinks it's doing Obama a favor, they really are his worst enemy. Actually I suggested that it was so during the campaign. They, the media were able to find a DUI George Bush got when he was in his 20's or something. But they praised Obama's speech on race after Wright. My question at the time would have been why he had to make the speech in the first place. I think that Obama must have thought he could get away with anything.....and it looks like he is trying. Like, closing Gitmo with out thinking it through. Like leaving Iraq, with out finishing the job. Like government run Medical Care, with out checking in with middle Americans values and the cost. He said he would put the coal industry out of business, and cause energy prices to skyrocket, who challenged him on that? What must the White House budget look like? Michelle has doubled the number of employees for herself. Obama must have quadrupled his number from any predecessor. the media could help him, but I guess they think it is racial to question the motives of our new President. It really is a shame! WWS….I agree, that while the media thinks it’s doing Obama a favor, they really are his worst enemy. Actually I suggested that it was so during the campaign. They, the media were able to find a DUI George Bush got when he was in his 20′s or something. But they praised Obama’s speech on race after Wright. My question at the time would have been why he had to make the speech in the first place. I think that Obama must have thought he could get away with anything…..and it looks like he is trying. Like, closing Gitmo with out thinking it through. Like leaving Iraq, with out finishing the job. Like government run Medical Care, with out checking in with middle Americans values and the cost. He said he would put the coal industry out of business, and cause energy prices to skyrocket, who challenged him on that?

What must the White House budget look like? Michelle has doubled the number of employees for herself. Obama must have quadrupled his number from any predecessor. the media could help him, but I guess they think it is racial to question the motives of our new President. It really is a shame!

]]> By: J’s Cafe Nette » Breaking News. Green Jobs Czar Resigns http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/10405/comment-page-1#comment-489039 J’s Cafe Nette » Breaking News. Green Jobs Czar Resigns Sun, 06 Sep 2009 05:59:05 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=10405#comment-489039 [...] here, and [...] [...] here, and [...]

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