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		<title>By: Flopping Aces Â» Blog Archive &#187; The Gorelick Wall &#38; Sandy Berger, Update XXIX</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces Â» Blog Archive &#187; The Gorelick Wall &#38; Sandy Berger, Update XXIX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] AJStrata is burning the nightoil once again with his latest piece on Able Danger: Looks like this is the week for my Able Danger predictions to come true. Yesterday,  Gen Hugh Shelton confirmed my early suspicions that Able Danger was a technology demonstration program. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] AJStrata is burning the nightoil once again with his latest piece on Able Danger: Looks like this is the week for my Able Danger predictions to come true. Yesterday,  Gen Hugh Shelton confirmed my early suspicions that Able Danger was a technology demonstration program. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dinocrat &#187; Blog Archive &#187; MSM focus on Cheney and miss the possible real cover-up</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1042/comment-page-2#comment-4509</link>
		<dc:creator>Dinocrat &#187; Blog Archive &#187; MSM focus on Cheney and miss the possible real cover-up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2006 05:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] AJ Strata contends that there were two parallel projects using Able Danger data mining technology. One, the China Project, regarding suspect technology transfers to the PRC, started unearthing the names of US citizens, including, Strata&#8217;s account says, William Cohen, Condoleeza Rice and possibly Hillary Clinton. Strata&#8217;s conclusion: Able Danger was working to identify Al Qaeda and had struck gold with the Hamburg cell. But the same technology and group, working on a completely independent study implicates the Clinton administration so all the data, China and Al Qaeda targets, is destroyed in a moment of political panic. It is now highly possible 9-11 happened because the Clinton administration was afraid of bad PR. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] AJ Strata contends that there were two parallel projects using Able Danger data mining technology. One, the China Project, regarding suspect technology transfers to the PRC, started unearthing the names of US citizens, including, Strata&#8217;s account says, William Cohen, Condoleeza Rice and possibly Hillary Clinton. Strata&#8217;s conclusion: Able Danger was working to identify Al Qaeda and had struck gold with the Hamburg cell. But the same technology and group, working on a completely independent study implicates the Clinton administration so all the data, China and Al Qaeda targets, is destroyed in a moment of political panic. It is now highly possible 9-11 happened because the Clinton administration was afraid of bad PR. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Strata-Sphere &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weldon Press Conference</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1042/comment-page-2#comment-4370</link>
		<dc:creator>The Strata-Sphere &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weldon Press Conference</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] All my posts on this subject are here, my last big round up post is here. There is a lot of history in those posts if people wish to go back and see how things transpired. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] All my posts on this subject are here, my last big round up post is here. There is a lot of history in those posts if people wish to go back and see how things transpired. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Strata-Sphere &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The President&#8217;s Press Conference</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1042/comment-page-2#comment-2957</link>
		<dc:creator>The Strata-Sphere &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The President&#8217;s Press Conference</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 16:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bush keeps circling back to Hamdi and Midhar who were in San Diego early and coordinating with the 9-11 terrorists constantly - and how this activity would have been detected under the NSA program under question and stopped 9-11. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Bush keeps circling back to Hamdi and Midhar who were in San Diego early and coordinating with the 9-11 terrorists constantly &#8211; and how this activity would have been detected under the NSA program under question and stopped 9-11. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Right Politics &#187; Blog Archive &#187; AJ Strata: The Imploding Democrats</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1042/comment-page-2#comment-2940</link>
		<dc:creator>The Right Politics &#187; Blog Archive &#187; AJ Strata: The Imploding Democrats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2005 16:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This is a very strange concept if you think about it and recall how the Able Danger purge in early 2000 possibly led to the loss of tracking on Atta and company when they were making their final plans in Malaysia and heading to the US. What Reid and the left is saying is if known or high probability Al Qaeda terrorist is contacting someone in the US we must ignore the US contact to protect our constitution, even if it leads to another 9-11. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This is a very strange concept if you think about it and recall how the Able Danger purge in early 2000 possibly led to the loss of tracking on Atta and company when they were making their final plans in Malaysia and heading to the US. What Reid and the left is saying is if known or high probability Al Qaeda terrorist is contacting someone in the US we must ignore the US contact to protect our constitution, even if it leads to another 9-11. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Snapple</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1042/comment-page-2#comment-2859</link>
		<dc:creator>Snapple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 03:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curt Weldon was on Lou Dobbs (CNN) according to a poster on Free Republic. Weldon said that the Able Danger people will now be permitted to testify. (December 12, 2005)

I didn&#039;t see the show myself, so I just reporting what the poster said.

Maybe there will be something on his site. 

Personally, I wish all of this stuff could be kept a little quiet.

Able Danger was watching Al Qaeda in America. They usually recruit domestic radicals/terrorists when they go places.  The Al Qaeda won&#039;t all be foreigners. Or Muslims. Or people from the ME.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curt Weldon was on Lou Dobbs (CNN) according to a poster on Free Republic. Weldon said that the Able Danger people will now be permitted to testify. (December 12, 2005)</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t see the show myself, so I just reporting what the poster said.</p>
<p>Maybe there will be something on his site. </p>
<p>Personally, I wish all of this stuff could be kept a little quiet.</p>
<p>Able Danger was watching Al Qaeda in America. They usually recruit domestic radicals/terrorists when they go places.  The Al Qaeda won&#8217;t all be foreigners. Or Muslims. Or people from the ME.</p>
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		<title>By: Snapple</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1042/comment-page-2#comment-2810</link>
		<dc:creator>Snapple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2005 04:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think that all of these links meant anything untoward was going on. Condi Rice was a Stanford and Stanford had a big exchange program with the Chinese.  Naturally the Chinese Government is going to infiltrate these programs. And this gives our people access to them, too. It&#039;s a two-way street.

I don&#039;t know  how this Able danger works, but there could be connections that, when investigated, are innocent.

I could also be that different government agencies end up spying on each other&#039;s operations. 

Politicians have contacts with so many people; they may get money from people and not really realize what is going on for a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that all of these links meant anything untoward was going on. Condi Rice was a Stanford and Stanford had a big exchange program with the Chinese.  Naturally the Chinese Government is going to infiltrate these programs. And this gives our people access to them, too. It&#8217;s a two-way street.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know  how this Able danger works, but there could be connections that, when investigated, are innocent.</p>
<p>I could also be that different government agencies end up spying on each other&#8217;s operations. </p>
<p>Politicians have contacts with so many people; they may get money from people and not really realize what is going on for a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2005 00:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we had real guts in this country, we&#039;d be demanding an investigation into the &quot;presumably innocuous&quot; links connecting Condi, Hillary, and former Defense Secretaries Perry and Cohen to the acquisition of prohibited technology by the Pink Chinese.  The country is being sold down the river, and until we force Congress to grow a spine and use its subpoena power to investigate the mounting scandals that beset the nation and follow the evidence wherever it leads, irrespective of faction, we are doomed to bankruptcy and dissolution, or worse.  Hannah K has the right of it; we&#039;re chumps and we deserve every bit of bad news the kakistocracy and the people they work for have in store for us.  It doesn&#039;t matter which of the two, the neoconservatives or the neoliberals, is in the ascendancy.  The result is the same...the country is being hollowed out from the inside.  No wonder the 9-11 Commission and members of the current and former administrations are running away from Able Danger as fast as they can.  Able Danger threatens to tear the mask off the corruption, betrayal, and treason in which our leaders are complicit.  If you think I am talking out of my tin hat, read Safire on &quot;Angel Is Next&quot;, or dig up the transcripts of Condi on the Sunday shows verifying that this threat (on 9-11) to Air Force One was indeed made.  Then ask yourself how the cavedwellers in Afghanistan broke our most secret codes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we had real guts in this country, we&#8217;d be demanding an investigation into the &#8220;presumably innocuous&#8221; links connecting Condi, Hillary, and former Defense Secretaries Perry and Cohen to the acquisition of prohibited technology by the Pink Chinese.  The country is being sold down the river, and until we force Congress to grow a spine and use its subpoena power to investigate the mounting scandals that beset the nation and follow the evidence wherever it leads, irrespective of faction, we are doomed to bankruptcy and dissolution, or worse.  Hannah K has the right of it; we&#8217;re chumps and we deserve every bit of bad news the kakistocracy and the people they work for have in store for us.  It doesn&#8217;t matter which of the two, the neoconservatives or the neoliberals, is in the ascendancy.  The result is the same&#8230;the country is being hollowed out from the inside.  No wonder the 9-11 Commission and members of the current and former administrations are running away from Able Danger as fast as they can.  Able Danger threatens to tear the mask off the corruption, betrayal, and treason in which our leaders are complicit.  If you think I am talking out of my tin hat, read Safire on &#8220;Angel Is Next&#8221;, or dig up the transcripts of Condi on the Sunday shows verifying that this threat (on 9-11) to Air Force One was indeed made.  Then ask yourself how the cavedwellers in Afghanistan broke our most secret codes.</p>
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		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1042/comment-page-1#comment-2798</link>
		<dc:creator>AJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2005 15:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Snapple,

Check out today&#039;s Fly By - I talk about that article briefly.

AJStrata</description>
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<p>Check out today&#8217;s Fly By &#8211; I talk about that article briefly.</p>
<p>AJStrata</p>
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		<title>By: Snapple</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1042/comment-page-1#comment-2797</link>
		<dc:creator>Snapple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2005 15:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over at Free Republic they have posted a SNIP from a Wall Street Journal article on the Libby trial.

You have to subscribe, but the article is by Daniel Henninger and the date is December 9, 2005.

Henninger says that Libby&#039;s lawyers will use the trial to expose journalists.

Here is the FR link and their snip:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1537001/posts

I sort of wonder if Libby deliberately got himself in trouble so he could pull everyone into court.  Is this possible?

I am not too sophisticated about Washington politics, but that&#039;s what it seems like to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over at Free Republic they have posted a SNIP from a Wall Street Journal article on the Libby trial.</p>
<p>You have to subscribe, but the article is by Daniel Henninger and the date is December 9, 2005.</p>
<p>Henninger says that Libby&#8217;s lawyers will use the trial to expose journalists.</p>
<p>Here is the FR link and their snip:<br />
<a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1537001/posts" rel="nofollow">http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1537001/posts</a></p>
<p>I sort of wonder if Libby deliberately got himself in trouble so he could pull everyone into court.  Is this possible?</p>
<p>I am not too sophisticated about Washington politics, but that&#8217;s what it seems like to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Atlas Shrugs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Atlas Shrugs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2005 10:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Fisking Zawahari Video&lt;/strong&gt;

HEADLINE READS: Bin Laden still leading war: Zawahri video al reutersVideo here (note how al reuters and every other major news outlet report it as fact. Every headline reads the same) Qaeda&#039;s leader Osama bin Laden is still alive and</description>
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<p>HEADLINE READS: Bin Laden still leading war: Zawahri video al reutersVideo here (note how al reuters and every other major news outlet report it as fact. Every headline reads the same) Qaeda&#8217;s leader Osama bin Laden is still alive and</p>
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		<title>By: Hannah K OLuthon</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1042/comment-page-1#comment-2793</link>
		<dc:creator>Hannah K OLuthon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2005 07:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is very interesting, and quite coherent with a very long term (decades, at least) tradition by which the honest efforts of mid-level government officials have been frustrated, deviated, and terminated by higher-ups with a different agenda.   One need only think of the generations of DEA agents frustrated in their work by CIA sachems working hand-in-glove with drug lords, or of Sibel Edmonds or Cathleen Rowley in the FBI.  Moreover, this culture of treason has usually been a distinctly bipartisan endeavor, with cover-ups on order in those fleeting moments when the enduring parallel government&#039;s misdeeds came to public attention.   Unfortunately, I believe this will continue to be the case, since such unpleasant realities, while regarded as well-worn commonplaces in the blog-world, remain safely beyond the pale of respectable discourse as enforced by media gatekeepers.  The truth should make us free, but our inability to act in consequence will only make us angrier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is very interesting, and quite coherent with a very long term (decades, at least) tradition by which the honest efforts of mid-level government officials have been frustrated, deviated, and terminated by higher-ups with a different agenda.   One need only think of the generations of DEA agents frustrated in their work by CIA sachems working hand-in-glove with drug lords, or of Sibel Edmonds or Cathleen Rowley in the FBI.  Moreover, this culture of treason has usually been a distinctly bipartisan endeavor, with cover-ups on order in those fleeting moments when the enduring parallel government&#8217;s misdeeds came to public attention.   Unfortunately, I believe this will continue to be the case, since such unpleasant realities, while regarded as well-worn commonplaces in the blog-world, remain safely beyond the pale of respectable discourse as enforced by media gatekeepers.  The truth should make us free, but our inability to act in consequence will only make us angrier.</p>
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		<title>By: lucm</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1042/comment-page-1#comment-2786</link>
		<dc:creator>lucm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2005 04:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for a detailed chronology of Able Danger check 
http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/1205/120705nj1.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for a detailed chronology of Able Danger check<br />
<a href="http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/1205/120705nj1.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/1205/120705nj1.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Media Lies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Media Lies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2005 01:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;http://www.antimedia.us/posts/1134092768.shtml&lt;/strong&gt;

Andrew McCarthy, writing in National Review, points out the obvious &#8212; the single most important piece of the 9/11 puzzle has been completely ignored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="http://www.antimedia.us/posts/1134092768.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.antimedia.us/posts/1134092768.shtml</a></strong></p>
<p>Andrew McCarthy, writing in National Review, points out the obvious &mdash; the single most important piece of the 9/11 puzzle has been completely ignored.</p>
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		<title>By: mary mapes</title>
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		<dc:creator>mary mapes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2005 00:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW AJ, Link-o-rama to your Blog. Fantastic Job!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW AJ, Link-o-rama to your Blog. Fantastic Job!</p>
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