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		<title>By: owl</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/10719/comment-page-2#comment-493460</link>
		<dc:creator>owl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrye, you know my dislike of McCain because he was the one responsible for painting us as torturers but I voted for him anyway.  He would never deliberately lose a war and it is insane for anyone to equate him to Obama.  

As wws said, it is fun to watch Beck stir the pot but he makes me mad.  He puts out lots of facts and throws in some nutty crap at Pugs.  Yep,  third party.  Divide and this criminal enterprise will retain power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrye, you know my dislike of McCain because he was the one responsible for painting us as torturers but I voted for him anyway.  He would never deliberately lose a war and it is insane for anyone to equate him to Obama.  </p>
<p>As wws said, it is fun to watch Beck stir the pot but he makes me mad.  He puts out lots of facts and throws in some nutty crap at Pugs.  Yep,  third party.  Divide and this criminal enterprise will retain power.</p>
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		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/10719/comment-page-2#comment-493331</link>
		<dc:creator>AJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is the bellsouth one that keeps bouncing (and has for many months). Sorry, no way to tell you about it!

Will try directly, no responding.

AJStrata</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is the bellsouth one that keeps bouncing (and has for many months). Sorry, no way to tell you about it!</p>
<p>Will try directly, no responding.</p>
<p>AJStrata</p>
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		<title>By: SallyVee</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/10719/comment-page-2#comment-493329</link>
		<dc:creator>SallyVee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ, if you are using my old @charter.net address, change to @bellsouth.net

I have not received anything from you lately, or any indication of bounce backs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ, if you are using my old @charter.net address, change to @bellsouth.net</p>
<p>I have not received anything from you lately, or any indication of bounce backs.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beck wants a third party and that means a second term for Barack. And that is okay with Beck, because he is having a good time and making tons of money. Obama is a goldmine to Glenn Beck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beck wants a third party and that means a second term for Barack. And that is okay with Beck, because he is having a good time and making tons of money. Obama is a goldmine to Glenn Beck.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WWS:

I don&#039;t. I think the right could go after Obama without Beck trying to destroy the Republicans. He hates Republicans, every bit as much as Democrats, they would be fools to trust Beck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WWS:</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t. I think the right could go after Obama without Beck trying to destroy the Republicans. He hates Republicans, every bit as much as Democrats, they would be fools to trust Beck.</p>
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		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Sally Vee - I do try! BTW, did you see your email account keeps bouncing my emails to you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Sally Vee &#8211; I do try! BTW, did you see your email account keeps bouncing my emails to you?</p>
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		<title>By: WWS</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/10719/comment-page-2#comment-493325</link>
		<dc:creator>WWS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a few honest Democrats are starting to admit that they never meant what they said about Afghanistan being &quot;The Good War&quot; and that it was just a campaign ploy to try and pretend they were serious about the military.  They weren&#039;t, and that applies to Obama as well as to his followers.

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2009/09/best-and-brightest-millenial-edition-by.html

&quot;Escalation is a bad idea. The Democrats backed themselves into defending the idea of Afghanistan being The Good War because they felt they needed to prove their macho bonafides they called for withdrawal from Iraq. Nobody asked too many questions sat the time, including me. But none of us should forget that it was a political strategy, not a serious foreign policy. 

There have been many campaign promises &quot;adjusted&quot; since the election. There is no reason that the administration should feel any more bound to what they said about this than all the other committments [sic] it has blithely turned aside in the interest of &quot;pragmatism.&quot;&quot;

(end quote)

As Ace wrote today,  &quot;They accused Bush of fighting wars for this very reason. And now, when it&#039;s safe to say so (they think), they concede: We supported a war for the reason we accused Bush of doing so for 8 years.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a few honest Democrats are starting to admit that they never meant what they said about Afghanistan being &#8220;The Good War&#8221; and that it was just a campaign ploy to try and pretend they were serious about the military.  They weren&#8217;t, and that applies to Obama as well as to his followers.</p>
<p><a href="http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2009/09/best-and-brightest-millenial-edition-by.html" rel="nofollow">http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2009/09/best-and-brightest-millenial-edition-by.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Escalation is a bad idea. The Democrats backed themselves into defending the idea of Afghanistan being The Good War because they felt they needed to prove their macho bonafides they called for withdrawal from Iraq. Nobody asked too many questions sat the time, including me. But none of us should forget that it was a political strategy, not a serious foreign policy. </p>
<p>There have been many campaign promises &#8220;adjusted&#8221; since the election. There is no reason that the administration should feel any more bound to what they said about this than all the other committments [sic] it has blithely turned aside in the interest of &#8220;pragmatism.&#8221;"</p>
<p>(end quote)</p>
<p>As Ace wrote today,  &#8220;They accused Bush of fighting wars for this very reason. And now, when it&#8217;s safe to say so (they think), they concede: We supported a war for the reason we accused Bush of doing so for 8 years.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: SallyVee</title>
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		<dc:creator>SallyVee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ, today you have spoken with maximum righteousness and profound wisdom. As the father of a marine, as an American patriot, as a very intelligent, careful and responsible man.

I cannot thank you enough. You have managed to use amazingly few words to encapsulate the whole roiling mess, describing everything that is so deeply, deeply distressing to me at this moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ, today you have spoken with maximum righteousness and profound wisdom. As the father of a marine, as an American patriot, as a very intelligent, careful and responsible man.</p>
<p>I cannot thank you enough. You have managed to use amazingly few words to encapsulate the whole roiling mess, describing everything that is so deeply, deeply distressing to me at this moment.</p>
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		<title>By: WWS</title>
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		<dc:creator>WWS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that Beck&#039;s crazy, Terrye, and the problem with crazy is that it does crazy shit from time to time.  On the other hand, that&#039;s the same thing that makes crazy so much fun when it goes after somebody else. 

Overall, I still enjoy all the trouble he&#039;s causing for Obama.  In fact, this last crazy comment of his just makes it all the harder for Obama to paint him as some GOP shill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that Beck&#8217;s crazy, Terrye, and the problem with crazy is that it does crazy shit from time to time.  On the other hand, that&#8217;s the same thing that makes crazy so much fun when it goes after somebody else. </p>
<p>Overall, I still enjoy all the trouble he&#8217;s causing for Obama.  In fact, this last crazy comment of his just makes it all the harder for Obama to paint him as some GOP shill.</p>
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		<title>By: ivehadit</title>
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		<dc:creator>ivehadit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imho, no wonder this administration is harassing Honduras for standing up for their constitution....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imho, no wonder this administration is harassing Honduras for standing up for their constitution&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: KauaiBoy</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/10719/comment-page-1#comment-493319</link>
		<dc:creator>KauaiBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barbara I think you misspelled &quot;realist&quot; and you are absolutely correct, this guy is the great divider, he will personnally set back race relations to pre civil war days.

CJ --- they have had blood on their hands since they started obstructing President Bush&#039;s efforts; they provided material moral support to our enemies and continue to do so. There is no redemption or penance for those crimes and sins and why I say they have no place at the table.

But my faith is in the military to ultimately uphold the Constitution of the United States and defend us from all enemies, foreign and domestic. I feel these guys are our last hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barbara I think you misspelled &#8220;realist&#8221; and you are absolutely correct, this guy is the great divider, he will personnally set back race relations to pre civil war days.</p>
<p>CJ &#8212; they have had blood on their hands since they started obstructing President Bush&#8217;s efforts; they provided material moral support to our enemies and continue to do so. There is no redemption or penance for those crimes and sins and why I say they have no place at the table.</p>
<p>But my faith is in the military to ultimately uphold the Constitution of the United States and defend us from all enemies, foreign and domestic. I feel these guys are our last hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yesterday Beck said that McCain would have been worse for the country than Obama. This right here is one reason why that comment is insane. McCain, for all his faults, would never deliberately lose a war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yesterday Beck said that McCain would have been worse for the country than Obama. This right here is one reason why that comment is insane. McCain, for all his faults, would never deliberately lose a war.</p>
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		<title>By: oldguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>oldguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kathie:

You have miquoted The One:
...â€œjust as well-funded, well-supported, and well-armed as the militaryâ€ 

He actualy said:
&quot;We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we&#039;ve set. We&#039;ve got to have a civilian national security force that&#039;s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.&quot; 

I have little doubt that he meant what you said, however.

I continue to get ready for 2010.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kathie:</p>
<p>You have miquoted The One:<br />
&#8230;â€œjust as well-funded, well-supported, and well-armed as the militaryâ€ </p>
<p>He actualy said:<br />
&#8220;We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we&#8217;ve set. We&#8217;ve got to have a civilian national security force that&#8217;s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.&#8221; </p>
<p>I have little doubt that he meant what you said, however.</p>
<p>I continue to get ready for 2010.</p>
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		<title>By: kathie</title>
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		<dc:creator>kathie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A  quote from &quot;the Nav Log&quot;, 

In March, 2009, GEN David McKiernan was fired and replaced by GEN McChrystal, who took command in June. General McChrystal&#039;s report was delivered to Obama at the end of August, almost three months after he took command. And yet now in the last half of September, the decision on additional forces has been ordered not delivered to the administration. That the Obama Administration is hostile to the military â€“ with Obama promising to create a competing Civilian National Defense Organiziation â€œjust as well-funded, well-supported, and well-armed as the militaryâ€ â€“ is no secret. That heâ€™d betray our military and the country as part of a plan to â€œtransformâ€ the country is dawning on a lot of people who thought otherwise. That our flag officers have the guts to stage another â€œrevoltâ€ against the intolerable gives one hope at a time when it is sorely needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A  quote from &#8220;the Nav Log&#8221;, </p>
<p>In March, 2009, GEN David McKiernan was fired and replaced by GEN McChrystal, who took command in June. General McChrystal&#8217;s report was delivered to Obama at the end of August, almost three months after he took command. And yet now in the last half of September, the decision on additional forces has been ordered not delivered to the administration. That the Obama Administration is hostile to the military â€“ with Obama promising to create a competing Civilian National Defense Organiziation â€œjust as well-funded, well-supported, and well-armed as the militaryâ€ â€“ is no secret. That heâ€™d betray our military and the country as part of a plan to â€œtransformâ€ the country is dawning on a lot of people who thought otherwise. That our flag officers have the guts to stage another â€œrevoltâ€ against the intolerable gives one hope at a time when it is sorely needed.</p>
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		<title>By: ivehadit</title>
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		<dc:creator>ivehadit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all families who are giving us their treasure to keep us safe, there are not enough thank you&#039;s in this lifetime to tell you how much we appreciate your sacrifices. And we love you!

And if there is one thing we learned from Viet Nam it is that we WILL NOT LET THE POLITICIANS RUN OUR WARS. Book it. 
(I was told personally by a very high ranking US general in the Viet Nam war that the politicians would not let them win)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all families who are giving us their treasure to keep us safe, there are not enough thank you&#8217;s in this lifetime to tell you how much we appreciate your sacrifices. And we love you!</p>
<p>And if there is one thing we learned from Viet Nam it is that we WILL NOT LET THE POLITICIANS RUN OUR WARS. Book it.<br />
(I was told personally by a very high ranking US general in the Viet Nam war that the politicians would not let them win)</p>
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