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		<title>By: Unscripted Thoughts</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1091/comment-page-1#comment-3065</link>
		<dc:creator>Unscripted Thoughts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2005 18:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Grandfather used to say to me &quot;Circumstances do not define &#039;who&#039; you are...but they do reveal who you are.&quot;  I am not overly concerned with the gathering of massive amounts of data to put together a jig-saw puzzle that might (or might not) prevent a disaster. I am concerned about &quot;who is watching the watchers&quot; as so ably demonstrated by the Barrett report detailing IRS abuse under Clinton. (BTW, interesting that little tidbit got buried isnâ€™t it?)

No doubt that the NYT revelations are damaging to US national security interests and I hope will be aggressively prosecuted. Apparently, the MSM is trying to relive the &quot;glory days&quot; of Vietnamâ€¦.but this is no Vietnam and the stakes are immense.  The bottom line for all of this: the US must now abandon expensive systems (and existing networks) already in place and shift its strategy and techniques. When I was a young Navy Lieutenant, Aldridge Ames compromised our systems and caused the same thing. He was revealed as a traitor. Any bets on how the so-called â€œjournalistsâ€ will fare?

One (possibly) good thing that may come of this entire sorry episode: the bad guys now THINK they know what our capabilities areâ€¦.and that can still work in our favor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Grandfather used to say to me &#8220;Circumstances do not define &#8216;who&#8217; you are&#8230;but they do reveal who you are.&#8221;  I am not overly concerned with the gathering of massive amounts of data to put together a jig-saw puzzle that might (or might not) prevent a disaster. I am concerned about &#8220;who is watching the watchers&#8221; as so ably demonstrated by the Barrett report detailing IRS abuse under Clinton. (BTW, interesting that little tidbit got buried isnâ€™t it?)</p>
<p>No doubt that the NYT revelations are damaging to US national security interests and I hope will be aggressively prosecuted. Apparently, the MSM is trying to relive the &#8220;glory days&#8221; of Vietnamâ€¦.but this is no Vietnam and the stakes are immense.  The bottom line for all of this: the US must now abandon expensive systems (and existing networks) already in place and shift its strategy and techniques. When I was a young Navy Lieutenant, Aldridge Ames compromised our systems and caused the same thing. He was revealed as a traitor. Any bets on how the so-called â€œjournalistsâ€ will fare?</p>
<p>One (possibly) good thing that may come of this entire sorry episode: the bad guys now THINK they know what our capabilities areâ€¦.and that can still work in our favor.</p>
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		<title>By: az redneck</title>
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		<dc:creator>az redneck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2005 18:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>30ears ago??  I&#039;m shocked.  Shocked!
Now that I think about it, the army had us running about the countryside doing the same thing in the 50s in my CBR classes (even then we couldn&#039;t say nuculer).  But the equipment was primitive, you understand.  Not even as good as I later provided to my h.s. physics students.
We should immediately put Ford and Carter in prison for about 40 years, along with Nixon.  Oh,wait---</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>30ears ago??  I&#8217;m shocked.  Shocked!<br />
Now that I think about it, the army had us running about the countryside doing the same thing in the 50s in my CBR classes (even then we couldn&#8217;t say nuculer).  But the equipment was primitive, you understand.  Not even as good as I later provided to my h.s. physics students.<br />
We should immediately put Ford and Carter in prison for about 40 years, along with Nixon.  Oh,wait&#8212;</p>
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		<title>By: The Pink Flamingo Bar Grill</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Pink Flamingo Bar Grill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2005 15:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Searching for Nukes with both hands tied behind ou&lt;/strong&gt;

Lets see now, if we take the bit about Muslims out of that USA TODAY headline &quot;EXCLUSIVE: Nuclear Monitoring of Muslims Done Without Search Warrants&quot;, how many Americans would think this headline&quot; Nuclear Monitoring done without search warrants&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Searching for Nukes with both hands tied behind ou</strong></p>
<p>Lets see now, if we take the bit about Muslims out of that USA TODAY headline &#8220;EXCLUSIVE: Nuclear Monitoring of Muslims Done Without Search Warrants&#8221;, how many Americans would think this headline&#8221; Nuclear Monitoring done without search warrants&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Sanity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Sanity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2005 13:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The New Benedict Arnolds?&lt;/strong&gt;

AJ Strata was one of the first to speculate that so-called &quot;protest&quot; resignation of Judge Robertson from the FISA court may have really been because he was one of the leakers of the classified NSA program. He and others are now wondering if Jay Rocke...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The New Benedict Arnolds?</strong></p>
<p>AJ Strata was one of the first to speculate that so-called &#8220;protest&#8221; resignation of Judge Robertson from the FISA court may have really been because he was one of the leakers of the classified NSA program. He and others are now wondering if Jay Rocke&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Snapple</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snapple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2005 12:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ writes, &quot;Why not go back to raising fears about the mind control devices at the NSA as well? &quot;

There is some way to read minds at least a little bit.  

Google John Norseen and read this article from 2000. 

http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/neuro/norseen.html

The National Aeronautics and Space Administration, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, and the Armyâ€™s National Ground Intelligence Center have all awarded small basic research contracts to Norseen, who works for Lockheed Martinâ€™s Intelligent Systems Division. Norseen is waiting to hear if the second stage of these contracts - portions of them classified - comes through.

Norseenâ€™s theories are grounded in current science. Mapping human brain functions is now routine. By viewing a brain scan recorded by a magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) machine, scientists can tell what the person was doing at the time of the recording - say, reading or writing. Emotions from love to hate can be recognized from the brain&#039;s electrical activity.

Thought police.   So could the murderous thoughts of a terrorist, asserts Norseen, who wrote his thesis at the Naval War College on applying neuroscience research to antiterrorism. He has submitted a research-and-development plan to the Pentagon, at its request, to identify a terroristâ€™s mental profile. A miniaturized brain-mapping device inside an airport metal detector would screen passengersâ€™ brain patterns against a dictionary of brain prints. Norseen predicts profiling by brain print will be in place by 2005....â€œIf this research pans outâ€,  says Norseen, â€œyou can begin to manipulate what someone is thinking even before they know it.â€ But Norseen says he is â€œagnosticâ€ on the moral ramifications, that he&#039;s not a â€œmadâ€ scientist - just a dedicated one. â€œThe ethics donâ€™t concern me,â€ he says, â€œbut they should concern someone else.â€</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ writes, &#8220;Why not go back to raising fears about the mind control devices at the NSA as well? &#8221;</p>
<p>There is some way to read minds at least a little bit.  </p>
<p>Google John Norseen and read this article from 2000. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/neuro/norseen.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/neuro/norseen.html</a></p>
<p>The National Aeronautics and Space Administration, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, and the Armyâ€™s National Ground Intelligence Center have all awarded small basic research contracts to Norseen, who works for Lockheed Martinâ€™s Intelligent Systems Division. Norseen is waiting to hear if the second stage of these contracts &#8211; portions of them classified &#8211; comes through.</p>
<p>Norseenâ€™s theories are grounded in current science. Mapping human brain functions is now routine. By viewing a brain scan recorded by a magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) machine, scientists can tell what the person was doing at the time of the recording &#8211; say, reading or writing. Emotions from love to hate can be recognized from the brain&#8217;s electrical activity.</p>
<p>Thought police.   So could the murderous thoughts of a terrorist, asserts Norseen, who wrote his thesis at the Naval War College on applying neuroscience research to antiterrorism. He has submitted a research-and-development plan to the Pentagon, at its request, to identify a terroristâ€™s mental profile. A miniaturized brain-mapping device inside an airport metal detector would screen passengersâ€™ brain patterns against a dictionary of brain prints. Norseen predicts profiling by brain print will be in place by 2005&#8230;.â€œIf this research pans outâ€,  says Norseen, â€œyou can begin to manipulate what someone is thinking even before they know it.â€ But Norseen says he is â€œagnosticâ€ on the moral ramifications, that he&#8217;s not a â€œmadâ€ scientist &#8211; just a dedicated one. â€œThe ethics donâ€™t concern me,â€ he says, â€œbut they should concern someone else.â€</p>
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		<title>By: Snapple</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1091/comment-page-1#comment-3056</link>
		<dc:creator>Snapple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2005 12:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ--don&#039;t you have any tricycles that you thought you could assemble better than Toys-R-US?  

You must have been up all night to catch this. 

Totally off-topic, but this is a good site for cooking
http://www.cooks.com/

Someone may be hovering over  your roof tonite, and word on the street is that  he has the latest  NEST sniff-technology in his black bag. 

I am hoping this will attract a warrantless search!  

I am trying to decide what to do with my tenderloin
http://www.cooks.com/rec/search/0,1-00,tenderloin_steak,FF.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ&#8211;don&#8217;t you have any tricycles that you thought you could assemble better than Toys-R-US?  </p>
<p>You must have been up all night to catch this. </p>
<p>Totally off-topic, but this is a good site for cooking<br />
<a href="http://www.cooks.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cooks.com/</a></p>
<p>Someone may be hovering over  your roof tonite, and word on the street is that  he has the latest  NEST sniff-technology in his black bag. </p>
<p>I am hoping this will attract a warrantless search!  </p>
<p>I am trying to decide what to do with my tenderloin<br />
<a href="http://www.cooks.com/rec/search/0,1-00,tenderloin_steak,FF.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cooks.com/rec/search/0,1-00,tenderloin_steak,FF.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Snapple</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snapple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2005 11:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I am glad these sophisticated technologies can protect us, and I think that practically all Americans want these methods used against our terrorist enemies--domestic and foreign. And we should never have these programs discussed  in the papers during wartime.

I was against telling about Able Danger, remember?

I predicted that if Able Danger  was publicized  to &quot;show up&quot; Democratic mistakes then the Democrats would retaliate by leaking information derogatory to the Republicans.

And that  now appears to be happening.

Republicans and Democrats are trying to show each other up by leaking classified programs.

And the Democrats have really gone way too far, but both parties have made  it easier for our terrorist enemies to  just read our secrets in the NYT and Washington Post. 

The enemy is inside our country planning attacks. We can&#039;t treat this like a law enforcement issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I am glad these sophisticated technologies can protect us, and I think that practically all Americans want these methods used against our terrorist enemies&#8211;domestic and foreign. And we should never have these programs discussed  in the papers during wartime.</p>
<p>I was against telling about Able Danger, remember?</p>
<p>I predicted that if Able Danger  was publicized  to &#8220;show up&#8221; Democratic mistakes then the Democrats would retaliate by leaking information derogatory to the Republicans.</p>
<p>And that  now appears to be happening.</p>
<p>Republicans and Democrats are trying to show each other up by leaking classified programs.</p>
<p>And the Democrats have really gone way too far, but both parties have made  it easier for our terrorist enemies to  just read our secrets in the NYT and Washington Post. </p>
<p>The enemy is inside our country planning attacks. We can&#8217;t treat this like a law enforcement issue.</p>
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		<title>By: sbd</title>
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		<dc:creator>sbd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2005 10:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this might sound crazy, but  only way to get rid of the scum that is  the NYT,  is by hitting them in their pocket book.  There&#039;s got to be a way to file a class action lawsuit against them.  Their reporting contnues to put our country in grave danger.  Since the Country is &quot;We The People&quot;, I would think any US citizen could join in the Class Action.  Could you imagine how many plaintiffs would join the Class!!!  I know it sounds far fetched, but it never hurts to ask.  Does anyone know a Lawyer that could come up with a legitimate class action suit against the NYT??


SBD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this might sound crazy, but  only way to get rid of the scum that is  the NYT,  is by hitting them in their pocket book.  There&#8217;s got to be a way to file a class action lawsuit against them.  Their reporting contnues to put our country in grave danger.  Since the Country is &#8220;We The People&#8221;, I would think any US citizen could join in the Class Action.  Could you imagine how many plaintiffs would join the Class!!!  I know it sounds far fetched, but it never hurts to ask.  Does anyone know a Lawyer that could come up with a legitimate class action suit against the NYT??</p>
<p>SBD</p>
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		<title>By: Larwyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larwyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2005 07:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NAR9350 wrote:
&quot;Think â€œpork barrelâ€ and â€œgold plated fire trucksâ€ that everyone is trying to get with DHS money.&quot;

This is exactly the point I was making when the Dems filibustered the
extention of the Patriot Act.

I said if they did not want to allow the tools in the Patriot Act and now
add the NSA&#039;s monitoring - ALL HOMELAND SECURITY $$$$$$$
taken back from these Senators&#039; states.

The Dems only want defensive efforts that will swell the public sector unions and therefore increase their campaigne coffers and voters.

GW cannot worry about being a &quot;uniter&quot; with these vermin - they
must be treated as the Benedict Arnolds that they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NAR9350 wrote:<br />
&#8220;Think â€œpork barrelâ€ and â€œgold plated fire trucksâ€ that everyone is trying to get with DHS money.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is exactly the point I was making when the Dems filibustered the<br />
extention of the Patriot Act.</p>
<p>I said if they did not want to allow the tools in the Patriot Act and now<br />
add the NSA&#8217;s monitoring &#8211; ALL HOMELAND SECURITY $$$$$$$<br />
taken back from these Senators&#8217; states.</p>
<p>The Dems only want defensive efforts that will swell the public sector unions and therefore increase their campaigne coffers and voters.</p>
<p>GW cannot worry about being a &#8220;uniter&#8221; with these vermin &#8211; they<br />
must be treated as the Benedict Arnolds that they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Media Lies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Media Lies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2005 06:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Times goes for broke&lt;/strong&gt;

Apparently not satisfied with exposing critical national secrets, the Times has posted a follow...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Times goes for broke</strong></p>
<p>Apparently not satisfied with exposing critical national secrets, the Times has posted a follow&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: nar9350</title>
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		<dc:creator>nar9350</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2005 05:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh give me a break. Let them eat cake!

See my comment over at The Volokh Conspiracy:

&lt;b&gt;A Case for Transparent Privacy&lt;/b&gt;

I would encourage readers to check out my piece re the LE paradigm. Granted, it might be a little rough around the edges for these hollowed halls. It does come from my perspective as a local LE professional who has written over 500 search warrants in his career some of which have included high tech related issues.

It boils down to this, you can&#039;t win a war by playing defense. There is no way you can protect all potential targets from attack from all possible scenarios. This results in the under utilization and misallocation of scarce resources. Think &quot;pork barrel&quot; and &quot;gold plated fire trucks&quot; that everyone is trying to get with DHS money.

&lt;b&gt;You must play offense, deploy your resources intelligently, and in all cases engage the enemy.&lt;/b&gt;

This is where the traditional LE paradigm breaksdown. This is not a police action where the rules can include the finer points of probable cause. The apprehension and prosecution of the prepetraitors becomes nonrelevant. The mission should be to prevent an attack. The players become insignificant. After all because of the enemy&#039;s radical extremist religious cult-like ideology/belief structure, it&#039;s agents launch suicidal attacks.

[...]

[WMD, dirty bomb, or chem bio attack]

&lt;b&gt;Anyone of these could literally destablized our government and society. Now you tell me whether a little transparent privacy is in order here until we can wipe this ideology of hate and evil from the face of this earth?&lt;/b&gt;

OK I&#039;m done now.

Read More

&lt;a href=&quot;http://volokh.com/posts/1135378848.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Link&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh give me a break. Let them eat cake!</p>
<p>See my comment over at The Volokh Conspiracy:</p>
<p><b>A Case for Transparent Privacy</b></p>
<p>I would encourage readers to check out my piece re the LE paradigm. Granted, it might be a little rough around the edges for these hollowed halls. It does come from my perspective as a local LE professional who has written over 500 search warrants in his career some of which have included high tech related issues.</p>
<p>It boils down to this, you can&#8217;t win a war by playing defense. There is no way you can protect all potential targets from attack from all possible scenarios. This results in the under utilization and misallocation of scarce resources. Think &#8220;pork barrel&#8221; and &#8220;gold plated fire trucks&#8221; that everyone is trying to get with DHS money.</p>
<p><b>You must play offense, deploy your resources intelligently, and in all cases engage the enemy.</b></p>
<p>This is where the traditional LE paradigm breaksdown. This is not a police action where the rules can include the finer points of probable cause. The apprehension and prosecution of the prepetraitors becomes nonrelevant. The mission should be to prevent an attack. The players become insignificant. After all because of the enemy&#8217;s radical extremist religious cult-like ideology/belief structure, it&#8217;s agents launch suicidal attacks.</p>
<p>[...]</p>
<p>[WMD, dirty bomb, or chem bio attack]</p>
<p><b>Anyone of these could literally destablized our government and society. Now you tell me whether a little transparent privacy is in order here until we can wipe this ideology of hate and evil from the face of this earth?</b></p>
<p>OK I&#8217;m done now.</p>
<p>Read More</p>
<p><a href="http://volokh.com/posts/1135378848.shtml" rel="nofollow">Link</a></p>
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		<title>By: smh10</title>
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		<dc:creator>smh10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2005 05:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ:  How far is the media willing to go to try and destroy this administration?  I never thought I would see the day that the liberals and their MSM cohorts would compromise National Security for their political gains.  It seems that public opinion no longer holds any weight in decisions made by editors and politicians.
Some serious investigations need to be commenced and heads need to roll here.  
This is the lives of every American they are now jeopardizing.  Let&#039;s hope the administration and DOJ fight back hard.
Have a nice Christmas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ:  How far is the media willing to go to try and destroy this administration?  I never thought I would see the day that the liberals and their MSM cohorts would compromise National Security for their political gains.  It seems that public opinion no longer holds any weight in decisions made by editors and politicians.<br />
Some serious investigations need to be commenced and heads need to roll here.<br />
This is the lives of every American they are now jeopardizing.  Let&#8217;s hope the administration and DOJ fight back hard.<br />
Have a nice Christmas.</p>
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		<title>By: Flopping Aces</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2005 04:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;NYT&#8217;s At It Again&lt;/strong&gt;

	I just don&#8217;t understand these people.  Do they not understand that publishing this kind of information makes it more difficult to find and kill the very terrorists who want our Nation destroyed?

...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>NYT&#8217;s At It Again</strong></p>
<p>	I just don&#8217;t understand these people.  Do they not understand that publishing this kind of information makes it more difficult to find and kill the very terrorists who want our Nation destroyed?</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
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