Oct 05 2009
Government Rationed Health Care On Last Legs
Support for a health care bill has been replaced by demanding protections for the status quo:
Sixty-three percent (63%) of voters nationwide say guaranteeing that no one is forced to change their health insurance coverage is a higher priority than giving consumers the choice of a “public option” health insurance company.
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that just 29% take the opposite view.
In other words don’t mess with our health Mr President and Liberal leaders in DC! by 2:1 the voters would rather DC not mess with their health care, especially in the middle of the worst economic situation since the great depression.
Will liberals listen? Probably not, which is why Democrats are about to be one term wonders in power (where they hold all three elected branches).
But in the Senate there is an interesting decision playing out. They actually want to see the price for their wild eyed theories before they vote! Imagine that.
Early in the amendment process, the panelagreed not to hold a vote until a preliminary analysis on the legislation’s cost-saving potential was available, and it appears as if the CBO will not complete its work until later in the week. That would touch off yet another delay–one that’s likely to frustrate Democrats and liberal activists, who’ve grown impatient over the glacial pace of reform efforts.
Oh my – are people on Capitol Hill tiring of the ‘world is ending’ screams for haste that mark the one-trick White House? Are some folks not willing to throw their careers away on whims, speculation and rumor?
Is the ‘change’ for contemplation and debate on serious issues finally hitting DC? Whodathunkit!
Any bets on how bad this CBO scoring is going to be?
I find it interesting that the CBO is so delayed. Now of course the Senate has screwed things by waiting until the last minute, but I suspect that if someone had really wanted to these numbers would have been cranked out already – I’ve worked on rush jobs before, and when cost is no object it’s amazing how quickly things can go.
Of course, maybe I’m wrong – but could there be some moderates with influence on the CBO that would be ever so slyly slowing things down? Every day that passes makes this a little more unlikely, and reports are that Obama is desperate to get a final vote before the Virginia and New Jersey elections are in.
That ain’t a whole lot of time there.
stopping so-called affordable health care for all seems like a finger in the cracking dam. we put our finger in the hole in the logic of affordable-health-care-for-all-without-spending-any-extra-money, and then this hole pops up over there . . .See Forbes’ condemnation of the resurrection of CRA http://www.forbes.com/2009/10/03/community-reinvestment-act-mortgages-housing-opinions-contributors-peter-schweizer.html I don’t mean to hijack a thread and change the topic, but the broader topic seems to be “how to mismanage money.”
I thought I heard that the CBO couldn’t score it until they had actual legislative language.
WWS & Frogg1,
The CBO finally has a stable set of language they can work from. Remember, the finance committee had over 500 amendments it plowed through. Until these were culled down to the final set there was no way to score all the permutations possible.
I’m expecting a huge price tag with little to no change in coverage and a lot of people losing their coverage.
Redstate was indicating that Congress is considering a vapor bill?
So many different versions of Obamacare bill.
Yesterday’s event at the WH was a joke. A poor effort in rallying doctors that support Obamacare while there are doctors protesting it.
Whatever happened to Obama’s five week TV show? Got canceled?
Obama’s getting desperate.
I’m reading some articles that say that Obamacare might squeak through a weak win. The Democrats put a spin on this.
AJ, interesting how they managed to delay the Senate bill for a preliminary CBO report.
All this while the Arabs are plotting to replace the Dollar with Euros.
>2:1 the voters would rather DC not mess with their health
>care, especially in the middle of the worst economic situation
>since the great depression.
AJ,
The more important number is that 85% of Americans have health care insurance plans.
Pres. Obama, Congressional Democrats & their supporters have convinced 3 out of 4 people with health insurance plans that their health in in danger.
Given the demographics of who has health plans, this is almost everyone with a non-public employee union Health insurance plan.
That “63% no change” number has to be like 95-to-98% of those with private health insurance plans. Talk about motivating your opposition to vote!
Worse, talk even more about splintering your own base by making Democratic voting elderly and union workers choose between their own health and their poltics!
This needs to be read from American Thinker
October 06, 2009
Who needs death panels?
Aaron Gee
The WSJ today succinctly illustrates the morass of government healthcare in a Review & Outlook column titled The War On Specialists. In an effort to both reduce costs and increase the number of General Practitioners, the Administration is making some changes to Medicare. To that end our enlightened politicians are taking money away from medical specialists such as cardiologist and oncologist so they have more to pay to General Practitioners.
I wish I could find solice in the public option is dead tract!
I fear however that the Democrat Party is bent on passing this thing destroying our healthcare but creating a brand new entitlement for those who choose to take the earnings of others for themselves.
The Dems do have the majorities and require only a few useful idiots from the Repubs and its a done deal. It’s uop to the Blue Dogs and a few honest ethical dems to stop this tackover.
i don’t have much faith.
This is all about union power unionizing the healthcare industry. Anyone imagine that after this passes, if this passes that Amnesty will not be the next step.?
Guaranteeing those that get here illegally or stay past their visas FREE healthcare, voting rights, and Dem majorities far into the future.
This is not about fixing healthcare this is about an attempted takeover of this country by a party whose methods have proven time after time in state after state to not work.
I afraid for my country and my kids and theirs. I never thought I would see the day so many demnded the benefits of the labor of others, not in america.
I also fear these planes, Dhunter – but the CBO data is going to be huge. I think it is going to come in just as AJ has said, which is catastrophically expensive.
These congressional committees have been ignoring the obvious, which is that *all* of these plans are going to be catastrophically expensive and that the plans to pay for them are pathetically transparent.
The proposed financing doesn’t work, not even when you fake the numbers! That’s how bad it is.
Forget the senate – I don’t even think Pelosi is now strong enough to get a public plan through the house. I don’t credit that to any good intentions on the blue dogs part; rather I count on their greed in wanting to continue their gravy train ride as congressmen and their fear at getting kicked off that train by the conductors at the next stop.
I also fear these planes, Dhunter – but the CBO data is going to be huge. I think it is going to come in just as AJ has said, which is catastrophically expensive.
These congressional committees have been ignoring the obvious, which is that *all* of these plans are going to be catastrophically expensive and that the plans to pay for them are pathetically transparent.
The proposed financing doesn’t work, not even when you fake the numbers! That’s how bad it is.
Forget the senate – I don’t even think Pelosi is now strong enough to get a public plan through the house. I don’t credit that to any good intentions on the blue dogs part; rather I count on their greed in wanting to continue their gravy train ride as congressmen and their fear at getting kicked off that train by the conductors at the next stop.
dangit – plans, and I don’t know how that posted twice. wish we could still edit.
HAAA HAAA I got your message!
I do it too, sorry I did not capitalize America it was an oversight but perhaps appropriate considering what some seem to want to turn this country into!
I fear that if they keep at it long enough, the political cost of not passing something will be as great as that of passing an unpopular bill…I just hope it can be repealed by the next Congress.
Well, I think he was told to crack that door open. He finds the energy to keep fighting this battle, regardless of the dollar or the political price. Very strange behavior for a lazy politician.
It doesn’t matter how many real people do not want this sort of change. This is an idiological fight.The DEMs will do anything to get a foot in the door to nationalized Healthcare.
The public health and Co-Op options are a canard. The rest of the law will ensure private healthcare will die eventually.
Neutral. Sure.