Dec 29 2005

Liberals Hope Destruction Of US Brings Impeachment

Published by at 6:35 pm under All General Discussions,FISA-NSA

Talk about hoping the world will end so you can be crowned emperor of the ashes! Check out this liberal’s pathological fantasy, culminating in Bush’s impeachment:

Because we shall soon see the consequences of those warrantless searches, the consequences of the government’s five years of secrecy, and even the citizens of the “Red States” will be outraged. Firstly, the warrantless taps will infect hundreds of “terrorist” and criminal cases throughout the country. Not only future cases, but past and present cases, even if there were convictions or plea bargains after the survellance started.

The defendants in “terrorist” and other infected criminal cases, the Court must find, must get access to everything, or very close to everything to make sure they were never improperly surveilled.

The Bush Administration, in these cases will refuse, as did the Nixon administration, to divulge information on national security grounds. Many alleged critical cases must then be dismissed. It will include Organized Crime and drug cases.

The entire criminal process will be brought to a standstill. Cases that should take six months to a year, will take three times as long, as motions go up and down the appellate ladder – as federal judges trial disagree with each other. Appellate Courts will disagree on issues so novel and so important that the Supreme Court will look at them.

Secondly, there will be an endless amounts of civil suits, that we can see will result in substantial damage awards. Commentators claimed there cannot be suits because no one has standing to challenge the surveillance. They are wrong. They do not remember the history of the Palmer Raids in the 1920’s, the surveillance in the Sixties and Seventies. The future will show both the enormous information the new technology has gathered but also the dishonest minimization of the extent of the surveillance.

That minimization is standard operating procedure for governments, whether they be run by Democrats or Republicans.

Thirdly, and most importantly, it is safe to preduct there will be coverups. This administration is not known for its candor.

The coverup starts by trying to get away with the vauge and meaningless defenses. Both Nixon and Clinton tried that.

When that doesn’t work, the coverup will be based on a foundation of small lies. Both Nixon and Clinton tried that.

We do not yet know what the FISA judges already fear – that they have been not just ignored by the executive but misused. The public shall also learn about the FISA judges’ misuse of the FISA courts and their warrants. The courts were created to permit eavesdropping and electronic surveillance, not physical break-ins.

But the facts will show that the Bush administration, with the knowledge, and at times, the consent of, the FISA judges, conducted illegal physical break-ins – break-ins that to this day, the involved person, is unaware of.

Were the results of these “terrorist” break-ins then given to criminal authorities to start unrelated prosecutions? Of course.

The American public will also learn what this Administration has thus far successfully hidden. When Bush came into office, he signed an Exeutive Order making all of his, and his father’s, papers privileged. The order, extending 12 years out, also says if the President is incapacitated, then a third person can execute the privilege. This means anybody – a wife, a family lawyer, a child. The order also says the Vice President’s papers are privileged. It is an extraordinary Executive Order – this has never been anything like this. No one ever suggested a Vice President has executive privilege. If we do not find out what they are hiding, we will see witholding on a scale never before seen. He will no longer be able to use 9/11 and the war on terror as an excuse. It will confirm the fact that illegality and secrecy existed long before 9/11, that it started as soon as Bush-Cheney-Rumsfield got into office. It will show deliberate attempts to avoid any judicial or legislative oversight of the illegal use of executive privilege.

Impeachment procedures will come not because of wrongdoing but because of the discovery of lies.

The hope, thrill and glee eminating from this deranged soul is astounding. All these things must come to pass – otherwise the guy has been wrong about everything he believes as true.

In other words, the only way for his little fantasy world to go on surviving is for all the rest of us to suffer.

What an egomaniac.

4 responses so far

4 Responses to “Liberals Hope Destruction Of US Brings Impeachment”

  1. Snapple says:

    You sound pretty chipper.

    I think the lawyers for these arrested people will try to use the system to expose how NSA works so that the terrorists can find out.

    We may have to let some of these guys go, and people will never know how many terrorists were stopped by the NSA programs.

  2. Snapple says:

    Prisoners move begun by Clinton, says agent
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    The CIA’s controversial program of having terrorist suspects captured and questioned on foreign soil began under President Bill Clinton, a former US agent says.

    Michael Scheuer, a 22-year veteran of the CIA who resigned last year, told yesterday’s issue of the German newspaper Die Zeit that the US administration had been looking in the mid-1990s for a way to combat the terrorist threat and circumvent the cumbersome US legal system.

    “President Clinton, his national security adviser Sandy Berger and his terrorism adviser Richard Clark ordered the CIA in the autumn of 1995 to destroy al-Qaeda,” the newspaper quoted Mr Scheuer as saying.

    “We asked the president what we should do with the people we capture. Clinton said, ‘That’s up to you………He accused Europeans of being hypocritical in criticising the US for its anti-terrorism tactics while benefiting from them.

    “All the information we received from interrogations and documents, everything that had to do with Spain, Italy, Germany, France, England was passed on.”

    (see link for rest of story)

  3. trentk269 says:

    The left is gleeful about this for the same reason that they root for hurricaines, recessions, and military defeat: it is the political movement that needs bad news to survive.

    Forget the pompous declarations about civil liberties, or the phony handwringing about what the rest of the world thinks about America. These clowns want a collapse, because they rightfully see that collapse is the only way they’ll get back into power in the forseable future.

    They have ruined every country that they’ve ever governed, and history is passing them by. The fact that a substantial majority of Americans views them as a threat to this country’s security speaks for itself. The terror movement worldwide is going to get worse before it gets better, but a chief casualty of its presence will be the the liberal socialist left in the West.

  4. mary mapes says:

    You said “What an egomaniac”, that and what a paranoid traitorous a-hole” I mean, these people are insane, even the title of his post is unreal…Remember , this comes from the same site that the so-called civil rights hunger striker pronouncing that blacks were committing cannibalism in just 2 days in New Orleans…you just want to send Mr. Bubble Garbus a reality note…WE TAKE YOU PEOPLE WITH A GRAIN OF SALT.