Nov 01 2009
Far Right Screws Up Again
Is it really that hard for the immature far right to show a modicum of respect and allow people to fix a mistake without all the invective and arrogance? Apparently, yes it is.
Dede Scozzafava did the GOP a favor by realizing she was not what the voters wanted and allowing conservativce Hoffman to run ‘unopposed’ against the democrat Owens. But the lack maturity from the far right has not just pushed Scozzafava out of the way, they pushed her all the way into the Democrat’s hands.
If Hoffman loses Tuesday it is because of the same scorched Earth tactics from the far right that gave us Obama, Pelosi and Reid. Even if he ekes win, it will in spite of the arrogant ‘true’ right. This country is being ruined by fringe fanatics.
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AJ:
Help me out here. Who besides Dede (endorsed by the Kos kids) is saying this? What did I miss as far as public pronouncements?
TN
They pushed her into the hands of the democrats? Give me a break, she believes in most of the democrat agenda, she just has a R by her name. There was no primary, the people didn’t choose her, a group of republicans sitting around a table did. The tea party goers are asking “do you hear us” not just of democrats but republicans as well. They are people who are very nervous that a country of free people, that freedom enshrined in our constitution, not a small matter, can not survive the radical progressives in office now. They the “tea party” goers are not conservatives as MSM describes them, they are people who want the government out of their lives. They don’t want a government stretching it’s hand into their living room rearranging the furniture, and telling the family where to sit.
Obama seems to think that because there is a segment of our population that can’t seem to get their act together (I’m not talking about the poor or those who can’t help themselves), we all should be baby sat as if we can’t get our act together either. His policies reduce everybody to the same common denominator, those who can’t or won’t make the smallest personal sacrifice to take care of themselves, to take responsibility for decisions they have made and have gone wrong.
Most of us take our responsibilities of our life, and our families very seriously and make any and all sacrifices to care for and protect them. Obama believes the rich will and must take care of these people, the hapless few, after all they got rich by some nefarious means and they owe it to the few another chance to make the wrong decisions again and again and again. I think that that is Obama’s mind set, though he hasn’t the foggiest idea of how those thoughts if transformed into policy would play out, financially, personally, or for our nation as a whole. Obama’s education in economics, American history, our unique Constitution, is pathetic, and down right scary. That is what the people across this nation are saying, see us, hear us we, we are not Democrats or Republicans we are Americans, get out of our lives. That is not what DeDe was saying!
AJ:
She was a DIABLO. The sands of the political world shifted mightily after the July selection of Dede. Even PPP shows that Hoffman is winning this race easily. It is not the politicians that the Republicans need to unite but the voters.
Running as an economic conservative is the way to go and I think that McDonnell is running an effective campaign. Christie’s problem is that he is not running as an economic conservative. The property tax issue is killing him in suburbia. The republicans need to take back surburban USA from the Democrats. If that means to be less social conservative (which I support) than so be it. I have always looked upon the issues as this, better a center-right social victory than the progressive (abortion funding is in ObamaCare) social victory.
I think you have this one wrong, AJ. She IS a Democrat top to bottom running on the Republican ticket because her district is mostly registered Republican and that was the only way for her to get elected. She supports Pelosi’s agenda completely.
In this case we have an extreme left Republican, not a “moderate” or a “centrist”. This is someone who would probably change parties after her first term anyway.
She wasn’t “pushed” to the Democrats, she IS a Democrat who was simply running as a Republican.
Actually, AJ, I agree with this.
CP:
You need your own blog. Your posts are always educational. What is the feeling on the CA-10 race? My take is that the global warming issue is going to be the real waterloo of the left. If it blows up in the environmentalist face than the Republicans have a chance to recapture the suburbs. Suburban American may turn against the environment if it means that their standard of living will be directly affected. If that connection is ever made, the democrats could be in for huge losses.
In 2010 the Republicans can run off the economic issues if they can turn the blame Bush message into a what have you done for me lately issue while pointing out that the Dems in Congress are as much to blame for the economy as Bush. Also run with the economic liberty message as a way back to prosperity and accuse the environmentalist of limiting economic freedom.
As well as downplaying the social conservative message. The next week should be illuminating.
“You need your own blog. Your posts are always educational. ”
Heh, my time comes in snippets. I get 5 minutes a few times an hour to check my “coffee list” of blogs and make a quick comment. I have tried blogging at Town Hall but the user interface is a giant pain in the rear and as a single parent of two kids in silicon valley, don’t want the extra expense of a hosted blog. Google is out too, as they are generally evil
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CA-10 has received very little national attention and it is in the heart of way left liberal country. You can literally throw a rock from Berkeley to that district. But, Harmer is doing a major “get out the vote” operation with a lot of volunteers to get the electorate motivated to show up on an off year election. The local press is doing all it can to suppress the fact that there even IS an election.
Here is what Harmer put out yesterday in email to supporters:
So it is difficult to sort out what is going on but the CBS massive oversampling of Democrats using “typical” election turnout numbers with the Democrat ahead by only 10 points smells like a potential upset in the works if Republicans can manage to show up at the poll in large numbers.
Democrats are already preparing their “emergency vote reserve” in New Jersey by asking the Secretary of State to ignore the fact that the signatures on the mail in ballots don’t match the signatures on the voter registration cards.
Pushed? No. Dede was revealed.
This is not the self destruction of the republican party. It’s the grass root republicans giving the finger to the cigar-smoking-backroom-dealing elites that are running/ruining the party. Remember it was Sarah, the savior of the republican party, that got all this started by being the first public figure of significance to supported Hoffman. Why in the world would we want to send a person to congress who will vote with the dems 90% of the time? Only a philo-centrist would see it any other way.
An excellent quote from Sarah herself:
“Political parties must stand for something,” Palin wrote in a note on her Facebook page Thursday evening. “When Republicans were in the wilderness in the late 1970s, Ronald Reagan knew that the doctrine of ‘blurring the lines’ between parties was not an appropriate way to win elections.
“Unfortunately, the Republican Party today has decided to choose a candidate (Scozzafava) who more than blurs the lines, and there is no real difference between the Democrat and the Republican in this race. This is why Doug Hoffman is running on the Conservative Party’s ticket,”
Great! Lovely! Scozzafava has just thrown her support to Owen. What a _________! You fill in the blank. Some thanks for the NRCC spending 900K on her campaign.
I think that before I support any candidate I will have to do a background check, maybe the FBI can help. The big question is who is DeDe?
A background check would be a good idea for all candidates,
especially El-Presidente’, Si?
Any ACORN supporter getting the nod from the RNC is suspect.
I’m afraid that it’s the “fringe fanatics” that have effected Dede dropping out in the first place. It’s not fair to denigrate them after their invaluable contribution to this important fight. You can’t expect people to contribute to Hoffman without telling it like it is about Dede, and sometimes that just doesn’t mix with being totally polite and diplomatic all the time.
Actually, most of the mainstream rightwing blogs I read at least were quite respectful and thankful to her for dropping out. They mostly said she was not a bad person, but simply didn’t properly represent the sentiments of her district. I read comment after comment thanking her and wishing her well in her other political endeavors.
I’m quite confident that the one person Dede is maddest at, and who probably most influenced her decision to endorse Owens, is Sarah Palin — the epitome of polite opposition in this affair. I’m guessing she hates Sarah with a glowing hot passion, because Sarah really spearheaded the backlash against her. She is most on her mind as she dreams of an Owens victory, I strongly suspect.
I doubt A.J. wants to blame Sarah for Dede’s endorsement of Owens, but IMHO that is probably where the “blame” truly lies, at least in Dede’s mind. In reality of course, Dede herself is to blame for being a spiteful child, who obviously cares more about personal revenge than she does about electing someone who will vote with what she claims is her party — against the onrushing tide of unsustainable freedom and economy killing government spending and expansionism.
Sorry AJ – I totally disagree with your assessment. Nobody pushed anyone (certainly not the “far right” – whatever that is) – Scozzafava did this all on her own. We all should be getting behind Hoffman at this point, since he’s apparently the only candidate who is concerned that we have a trillion dollar deficit…
May we have an army of Hoffmans (even fresh Democrat “Blue Dog” Hoffmans) in 2010! Someone has to address our out of control spending or we’re done.
So it turns out that Favabeans endorsed the Democrat after being asked to by Chuck Schumer.
She isn’t/wasn’t a Republican. She is a Democrat running with an R after her name. I bet she has never voted Republican in her life.
“I bet she has never voted Republican in her life.”
Except for herself, that is.
Scozzafava has just thrown her support to Owen.
and, of course, we’re all surprised that a leftie has thrown her support to a ….gasp…..leftie. It’s those far righties, such as Palin and Thompson that drove her to it.
Centrist? did you ever see a herd of cows, in an old western, standing around waiting for someone to shoot a gun so they could all run in a stampede The herd was stampeding ‘from’ something, not ‘to’ something.
I don’t see how anyone can be an ‘independent’ or ‘centrist’. That seems to mean that you’re not sure what you want until you see it. I mean, I know what my political beliefs are and I’m gonna vote for the politician who most nearly fits those ideals. Reagan was ideal but men like that come along only once in a lifetime. The absolute opposite, Obama, also only comes along once in a lifetime. I didn’t have to know who Obama’s opponent was going to be before I decided who I would vote for. and I didn’t need for the opponent to say if he was gonna be a leftie lite. ANYONE (that was going to be a candidate) in the USA was going to be better than Obama. absolutely hands down.
Aj:
Sometimes I agree with you when it comes to the far right, but this Dede person was a crappy candidate..and by throwing her support to the Democrat she just stabbed all those Republicans who supported her in the back.
If there had been a primary I doubt very much if she would have won, but the locals owed her some favors and so she got the nod from the precinct committee leaders who probably did not know or care what her politics really were.
Hoffman probably should have gotten the nomination in the first place, if he had he would have won easily and no one outside of NY23 would have even heard of the race.
Why is my post awaiting moderation, it was not obscene or anything.
You are wrong this time AJ. Dede was a bad candidate, that was the problem.
“That seems to mean that you’re not sure what you want until you see it.”
Yeah, you just don’t get it. It is someone who aligns with a few points that both sides have.
Say, for example, someone who believes in a balanced budget, strong defense, believes we should finish the job in Afghanistan, doesn’t believe in government controlled health care but is pro choice and pro gay rights.
A person like that doesn’t align with either the left OR the right and would likely register “independent”.
I could go along with somene who was pro-choice or even pro-gay rights if they were for a strong defense, finish the job in Afghanistan and a balanced budget. The subject of pro-choice, except in this health care bill, is moot. Roe vs Wade will not be overturned.
About Dede. Her husband is a union thug who has chastised Hoffman for not supporting card check. She herself is a leftie who won the Margaret Sanger award from Planned Parenthood and was endorced by Working Familes. These people don’t do things like that for conservatives.
The local RNC messed up when they nominated her and I doubt they will ever admit it. I would take a bet they never vetted her at all. That seems to be the going thing nowadays. She is even more far left than Owens and we don’t need a republican in congress who would break ranks and vote with the democrats evertune. And she would because she agrees with them totally. With her in the House the dems could claim everything they did was bi partisan.
She is a perfect example of why I don’t particularly like women in politics. Emotional and spiteful when they don’t get their way. Most of them just can’t take the knocks with equnanimity. I don’t know if Sarah Palin has cried about the things the media has said about her but she has the decency to not parade it arond in public like some weak Nellie. Even though I knew it to be false, I was appalled with Hillary crying in the news. What would she do if we were nuked, sit and cry about it or stand up strong and deal with it?
AJ
I wish you would tell me why when everything goes wrong you blame the “far right”. The “far right” had nothing to do with support of Hoffman. That was caused by the GOP running a far, far leftie under their banner as a conservative when a child could see she was nothing of the kind.
Personally I don’t think the federal government belongs in the abortion or gay rights issues, those should be decided by the various states. The problem with the “far right” and the “far left” is that they want to force their social values on the rest of the country from Washington. The far right wants to believe the US is a “Christian” country. The far left wants to believe that America is a socialist country. Reagan had conservative values personally but never tried to shove them down other people’s throats. He believed that the states should do what is best and the people should “vote with their feet”.
The biggest problem I have are the “purists”. It doesn’t matter with them that you stand with them on 99% of the issues, if you have a different opinion on abortion or school prayer or gay rights, you are a “RINO”. And so by demanding “purity” they end up alienating a huge portion of the electorate. People are rarely “purely” anything. They hold a wide range of opinions and so it often comes down to which candidate “sucks least”.
Dede was in favor of the stimulus bill, is this correct?
If so, enough said for me.
Something was rotten with this “pick” of a candidate, imho.
I sent $$ to Hoffman because I thought he better represented my views in a bellweather Congressional race… Send a message I thought… and… from what I could research, Mrs. Scozzafava did not…
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Mrs. Scozzafava seems to be a whiner… and… now an ingrate… Did she or did she not accept a nomination from … and… take lots of $$ from the Republicans only to now endorse a Democrat?
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Gl Tuesday, Mr. Hoffman…
from nationalreviewonline.com:
“Sunday, November 01, 2009
The Real Story [Jonah Goldberg]
I’m writing about this for my USA Today column, but the Frank Rich hissy fit is a perfect example of the real story of the election. The story is not that the GOP is self-destructing, it is that the conventional wisdom is being shown to be ludicrous. For some time now Frank Rich, Sam Tanenhaus and countless others (including David Frum) have been arguing that the GOP is a rump party and the only way for it to survive is for it to embrace me-too Republicanism of one flavor or another. The story of all three major races (VA, NJ, and NY-23) is that this conventional wisdom was incandescently wrong and ill-advised. Hoffman and McDonnell owe their success to the support of independents (the independents all of these people said wanted moderate, Democrat-lite policies) and to Republicans determined to stay true to conservative principles. Not only was the conventional wisdom wrong, the idea that there’s a “civil war” within the GOP revolving around this argument is nonsense. The GOP is an unapologetically conservative party, providing a choice not an echo, and — horror of horrors — it’s working.”
Here is the correct link for the above:
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NmMwYjhjNWJjY2ZjZjJhYzM0YzZmNDljZThhNjAwNWQ=
The lady quit rather than face an embarrassingly far behind third in a three dog race.
She threw her support behind a far left candidate after enormous pressure from the White House (Rahm) and Democrat Party leaders.
Hard telling what she was offered for her support of the dem.
Her campaign managers are supporting Hoffman bolstering the idea the Chitown thugs either intimidated or bought her off.
Sorry AJ but this whole affair has nothing to do with the far right and everything to do with the Good Old Boy politics of some Good Old Boy GOPers and the heavy handed thugocracy that the majority of the Democrat Party has become under Obama and Company.
It’s a mix. Scozzofava should have known ACORN was toxic no later than the videos being broken by BigGovernment.com and Glenn Beck. She should have SPRINTED away (not just run, and certainly not just walking) from them.
She didn’t. That’s on her. The national GOP backed the GOP candidate – as one would expect them to do.
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The other problem, of course, is that the right has picked this fight much worse than it needs to be. They have not “let the GOP up easy” (Lincoln’s dictum), instead, they are just pushing too hard.
Then they are surprised when moderates decide to dish it back to them? The moderates either are seen to knuckle under – and thus, lose any shred of dignity to be salvaged from the situation – or they have to make the right understand that there will be pushback.
It’s a mess all over the place.
Both sides need to play nice.
Harold,
I play to win – nice is for fools.
somehow I get the idea that some people think the ‘centrists’ can win an election ‘without’ the right or left.
if the centrists support the lefties, the lefties win. If they support the righties, the righties win.
It is only for the centrists to decide if they like leftie things or rightie things.
if the righties remain true, and the lefties remain true, then someone has to compromise their beliefs and hold their nose and support someone they don’t wholly or generally agree with.
CP:
Say, for example, someone who believes in a balanced budget, strong defense, believes we should finish the job in Afghanistan, doesn’t believe in government controlled health care but is pro choice and pro gay rights.
A person like that doesn’t align with either the left OR the right and would likely register “independent”.
I don’t really agree with that. while you ‘might’ register ‘independent’ you would vote Republican. No one with those beliefs could support any part of Democrats.
pro choice? do you equate that with pro abortion? I don’t think very many people believe that abortion is NEVER the answer. If any woman were told her fetus had no brain, I’m relatively sure almost 100% would abort. I don’t know the Catholic church’s opinion on that but I’d be surprised if they would prefer a 9 month still born to a 1 month still born.
and I certainly wouldn’t vote against a person just because they allowed (or had) an abortion when it was warranted.
pro gay rights? Do you equate that to two gays being given equal footing, say on adopting a child, with a married couple?
and why would that belief, if you had it, prevent you from voting Republican?
I’m a Republican and I wouldn’t vote against a person because of their sexual living arrangement.
BUT: these items:
a balanced budget, strong defense, believes we should finish the job in Afghanistan, doesn’t believe in government controlled health care
have devastating alternatives, which we are seeing with the present far lefties, aligned with centrists who preferred them.
Bankrupt spending, opening the country to terrorists attacks, surrender in Afghanistan, and a takeover of 1/6th the US economy and a takeover of the control of almost all aspects of human life.
So the prospect of centrists aligning left with all those negatives vs aligning right with some compromise on abortions or gay rights have vastly different implications and consequences.
so if calling a moderate Republican a RINO is a mortal sin for a far rightie, what does it take for a far leftie to commit an equivalent ‘mortal sin’?
what of the present situation where the CinC is ‘dithering’ while people are dying in Afghanistan? At least George Bush didn’t hide under his desk when called on to send more troops.
Redteam, the problem is when you have someone on the left who wants to tax us out of existence and then get someone on the right who is running on a platform of, oh lets say, national outlawing of abortion. I would probably vote for the guy on the right and let every one of my legislative delegation know what I felt on his abortion stand. But thankfully there is no one person in this country (aside from Nancy Pelosi, apparently) who can make a law.
Most of the issues that divide us don’t even belong at the national level in the first place. If the people of a state want government medical insurance, for example, they have every right to make it so at the state level. The federal government doesn’t need to get involved in it. If California wants government health care, they can tax Californians for it. And each state that went that route would be free to try their own solution. With 50 different approaches to a problem, one might be more successful and emulated while another solution might be a disaster and avoided by the others.
This notion of having to do everything from DC in lockstep fashion across the entire nation is a national disaster waiting to happen. There is nothing in this world preventing a state from having universal health care. So why don’t they do it? It has been pretty much a disaster everywhere it has been tried.
Redteam,
Yes, that is the difference between governing democratically (consensus) and oppression (forcing everyone to the views of a minority.
Speaking of holding one’s nose – the center is damn good at it since it has to live with both fringes.
PPP has Hoffman ahead 54-38. Siena will release a new poll soon, however the PPP poll seems to be taking into account a new turnout estimate with Obama’s approval rating in NY-23 at 39%. If PPP’s new turnout model proves accurate a 55-40-5 result would not be surprising. I would be more confident though if Rasmussen would poll in NY-23.
No new polls in CA-10. The 32% republican turnout model does seem a little low in a special election. That is the biggest problem with polling, predicting the proper turnout. Rasmussen does it the best (which everyone here complained about in 2008 when Rasmussen predicted a D+7 turnout). I wish Rasmussen would do a poll in CA-10 but I don’t have enough money. Scott Rasmussen needs to get Fox News (not according to Obama) to pay for a poll.
In NJ, PPP has it 47-41-11. That is consistent with Rasmussen’s 46-43-8. A 48-44-8 outcome tomorrow would be a huge victory for republicans although if Christie would hit 50% I don’t think all the absentee balots from the dead would make any difference. It just shows you that Christie is ahead that the Dems are trying to cheat so far ahead of Election Day.
The far right can certainly screw up from time to time. However, this is not one of those times. I think the far right saved the GOP in this race. Both the national tea party groups and Independents support Hoffman more than the other two candidates for a reason.
From what I’ve been reading, it appears Scozzofava was courted by the hightest ranking Dems (all the way to the White House)…and probably given some political payback promises for her support. And, what is this I am hearing that Scozzofava’s husband has been meeting with Dems about her switiching parties months ago???? Yep…..I think the conservative right saved the GOP on this one.
CP
the problem is when you have someone on the left who wants to tax us out of existence and then get someone on the right who is running on a platform of, oh lets say, national outlawing of abortion
you’re right, but the problem is, we really do have people such as Obama that wants to do the one, tax us out of existence, but we don’t have people that want to do the other. I don’t know one politician who’s no. 1 scheme is outlawing abortion. I do know one who’s no. 1 scheme is to tax us out of existence.
Most national politicians accept that Roe v Wade will never be overturned.
AJ, those on the near right have to do a lot of nose holding also, for example to support McCain.
What goes up, must come down, Spinnin wheel, got to go round.
AJ needs to move to Kansas. He’s lost in the http://sperryfiles.com/corridor.shtml
Stevevvs,
Your time here is nearly up. Take a hike for a while, or leave for good.
I find this article very interesting, and it adds an alternative view to AJ’s “true conservative/purist” arguement:
Doug Hoffman and ‘The Canada Option’
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=34221
Maybe the conservatives are just “throwing the bums out”. Hey, it worked in Canada, didn’t it?
LOL!
Frogg, the conservatives WERE the bums thrown out just a year ago!
Sometimes it does take 2×4 across the forehead I guess.
What do Centrist/Moderate/Bush/Conservatives Think of these quotes. Do they scare you away?
Man is not free unless government is limited.
Ronald Reagan
Concentrated power has always been the enemy of liberty.
Ronald Reagan
Government always finds a need for whatever money it gets.
Ronald Reagan
Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.
Ronald Reagan
Government’s first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives.
Ronald Reagan
Government’s view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
Ronald Reagan
Governments tend not to solve problems, only to rearrange them.
Ronald Reagan
History teaches that war begins when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap.
Ronald Reagan
How do you tell a communist? Well, it’s someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It’s someone who understands Marx and Lenin.
Ronald Reagan
It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first.
Ronald Reagan
It’s difficult to believe that people are still starving in this country because food isn’t available.
Ronald Reagan
No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we’ll ever see on this earth!
Ronald Reagan
One way to make sure crime doesn’t pay would be to let the government run it.
Ronald Reagan
Recession is when a neighbor loses his job. Depression is when you lose yours.
Ronald Reagan
The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would steal them away.
Ronald Reagan
The most terrifying words in the English language are: I’m from the government and I’m here to help.
Ronald Reagan
The problem is not that people are taxed too little, the problem is that government spends too much.
Ronald Reagan
The taxpayer – that’s someone who works for the federal government but doesn’t have to take the civil service examination.
Ronald Reagan
Thomas Jefferson once said, ‘We should never judge a president by his age, only by his works.’ And ever since he told me that, I stopped worrying.
Ronald Reagan
To paraphrase Winston Churchill, I did not take the oath I have just taken with the intention of presiding over the dissolution of the world’s strongest economy.
Ronald Reagan
Today, if you invent a better mousetrap, the government comes along with a better mouse.
Ronald Reagan
Trust, but verify.
Ronald Reagan
Unemployment insurance is a pre-paid vacation for freeloaders.
Ronald Reagan
We can’t help everyone, but everyone can help someone.
Ronald Reagan
We have the duty to protect the life of an unborn child.
Ronald Reagan
We might come closer to balancing the Budget if all of us lived closer to the Commandments and the Golden Rule.
Ronald Reagan
We must reject the idea that every time a law’s broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions.
Ronald Reagan
We should measure welfare’s success by how many people leave welfare, not by how many are added.
Ronald Reagan
Welfare’s purpose should be to eliminate, as far as possible, the need for its own existence.
Ronald Reagan
When you can’t make them see the light, make them feel the heat.
Ronald Reagan
While I take inspiration from the past, like most Americans, I live for the future.
Ronald Reagan
Within the covers of the Bible are the answers for all the problems men face.
Ronald Reagan
Without God, democracy will not and cannot long endure.
Ronald Reagan
Good grief… I think 2 or 3 Reagan quotes would make your point, Stevevvs. Take a deep breath and restrict your comments to less than 200 words… But, wd on learning to copy/paste…
For instance, Stevevvs… The Sperry File ref was interesting… Keep it short and to the point…
Harold,
I play to win – nice is for fools.
What will you win in Centrism?
Toes192on 02 Nov 2009 at 2:46 pm
For instance, Stevevvs… The Sperry File ref was interesting… Keep it short and to the point…
10-4 It seemed like they were all excellent.
Not one Moderate responded, telling…
AJ: I disagree with you on how the far right screwed up. They didn’t “push” DeDe in the Dem’s hands. She was already there on all positions except gun control. There is a problem however btwn the national Republican party and the conservative base. The national party recognizes that keeping power and control in Washington enhances their power and prestige, whereas the base, by and large, would prefer a limited federal gov’t that allowed “big tent” Republicanism at the local level. That, IMO, is where the real intra-party divide is occurring. So the “far-right ” “screwup” has more to do with finding a way to bring the national leadership in line with the base so that “screw-ups” like nominating a “big-tent” Republican type from the local level to the national level without guaranteeing a commitment to smaller, less intrusive gov’t and a commitment to federalism.
Here’s my proposition for the Republican Party: At the federal level, all nominees must adhere to the following:
1) A commitment to the federalist form of gov’t;
2) A commitment to a smaller federal gov’t; and,
3) Candidates for President and Senate must agree on a strict constructionist interpretation of the Constitution, in order to hold the judiciary in check.
None of the social stuff at the federal level. The one place it could come into play is recognition of homosexual marriage.
This will leave one prominent group of the conservative base out (ostensibly) and that is single-issue pro-life voters who want a federal ban on abortion.
Most pro-lifers however, would recognize that leaving these issues to the states would allow for state abortion bans in most of the country. As to the rest, education, education, education.
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As I speculated above, it looks like Sarah Palin is probably the person most to “blame” for Dede’s poor loser act.
“Dede Scozzafava, the woman who has become the symbol of moderate Republicanism, is taking a shot at former Republican vice presidential hopeful Sarah Palin, the woman who has become the darling of the Republican Party’s conservative grassroots.”
http://tinyurl.com/yfpqvoq
Because unlike Hannity and the rest, Sarah was the most effective force taking her down.
She really does appear to hate Palin with a passion, and I suspect she was going to do whatever it took to deny her bragging rights.
Of course, she may be the type that would have turned coat no matter what the circumstances.
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