Nov 01 2009

Far Right Screws Up Again

Published by at 11:58 am under All General Discussions

Is it really that hard for the immature far right to show a modicum of respect and allow people to fix a mistake without all the invective and arrogance? Apparently, yes it is.

Dede Scozzafava did the GOP a favor by realizing she was not what the voters wanted and allowing conservativce Hoffman to run ‘unopposed’ against the democrat Owens. But the lack maturity from the far right has not just pushed Scozzafava out of the way, they pushed her all the way into the Democrat’s hands.

If Hoffman loses Tuesday it is because of the same scorched Earth tactics from the far right that gave us Obama, Pelosi and Reid. Even if he ekes win, it will in spite of the arrogant ‘true’ right. This country is being ruined by fringe fanatics.

51 responses so far

51 Responses to “Far Right Screws Up Again”

  1. thromnewton says:

    AJ:

    Help me out here. Who besides Dede (endorsed by the Kos kids) is saying this? What did I miss as far as public pronouncements?

    TN

  2. kathie says:

    They pushed her into the hands of the democrats? Give me a break, she believes in most of the democrat agenda, she just has a R by her name. There was no primary, the people didn’t choose her, a group of republicans sitting around a table did. The tea party goers are asking “do you hear us” not just of democrats but republicans as well. They are people who are very nervous that a country of free people, that freedom enshrined in our constitution, not a small matter, can not survive the radical progressives in office now. They the “tea party” goers are not conservatives as MSM describes them, they are people who want the government out of their lives. They don’t want a government stretching it’s hand into their living room rearranging the furniture, and telling the family where to sit.

    Obama seems to think that because there is a segment of our population that can’t seem to get their act together (I’m not talking about the poor or those who can’t help themselves), we all should be baby sat as if we can’t get our act together either. His policies reduce everybody to the same common denominator, those who can’t or won’t make the smallest personal sacrifice to take care of themselves, to take responsibility for decisions they have made and have gone wrong.

    Most of us take our responsibilities of our life, and our families very seriously and make any and all sacrifices to care for and protect them. Obama believes the rich will and must take care of these people, the hapless few, after all they got rich by some nefarious means and they owe it to the few another chance to make the wrong decisions again and again and again. I think that that is Obama’s mind set, though he hasn’t the foggiest idea of how those thoughts if transformed into policy would play out, financially, personally, or for our nation as a whole. Obama’s education in economics, American history, our unique Constitution, is pathetic, and down right scary. That is what the people across this nation are saying, see us, hear us we, we are not Democrats or Republicans we are Americans, get out of our lives. That is not what DeDe was saying!

  3. MarkN says:

    AJ:

    She was a DIABLO. The sands of the political world shifted mightily after the July selection of Dede. Even PPP shows that Hoffman is winning this race easily. It is not the politicians that the Republicans need to unite but the voters.

    Running as an economic conservative is the way to go and I think that McDonnell is running an effective campaign. Christie’s problem is that he is not running as an economic conservative. The property tax issue is killing him in suburbia. The republicans need to take back surburban USA from the Democrats. If that means to be less social conservative (which I support) than so be it. I have always looked upon the issues as this, better a center-right social victory than the progressive (abortion funding is in ObamaCare) social victory.

  4. crosspatch says:

    I think you have this one wrong, AJ. She IS a Democrat top to bottom running on the Republican ticket because her district is mostly registered Republican and that was the only way for her to get elected. She supports Pelosi’s agenda completely.

    In this case we have an extreme left Republican, not a “moderate” or a “centrist”. This is someone who would probably change parties after her first term anyway.

    She wasn’t “pushed” to the Democrats, she IS a Democrat who was simply running as a Republican.

  5. crosspatch says:

    Actually, AJ, I agree with this.

    For some time now Frank Rich, Sam Tanenhaus and countless others (including David Frum) have been arguing that the GOP is a rump party and the only way for it to survive is for it to embrace me-too Republicanism of one flavor or another. The story of all three major races (VA, NJ, and NY-23) is that this conventional wisdom was incandescently wrong and ill-advised. Hoffman and McDonnell owe their success to the support of independents (the independents all of these people said wanted moderate, Democrat-lite policies) and to Republicans determined to stay true to conservative principles. Not only was the conventional wisdom wrong, the idea that there’s a “civil war” with the GOP revolving around this argument is nonsense. The GOP is an unapologetically conservative party, providing a choice not an echo, and — horror of horrors — it’s working.

  6. MarkN says:

    CP:

    You need your own blog. Your posts are always educational. What is the feeling on the CA-10 race? My take is that the global warming issue is going to be the real waterloo of the left. If it blows up in the environmentalist face than the Republicans have a chance to recapture the suburbs. Suburban American may turn against the environment if it means that their standard of living will be directly affected. If that connection is ever made, the democrats could be in for huge losses.

    In 2010 the Republicans can run off the economic issues if they can turn the blame Bush message into a what have you done for me lately issue while pointing out that the Dems in Congress are as much to blame for the economy as Bush. Also run with the economic liberty message as a way back to prosperity and accuse the environmentalist of limiting economic freedom.

    As well as downplaying the social conservative message. The next week should be illuminating.

  7. crosspatch says:

    “You need your own blog. Your posts are always educational. ”

    Heh, my time comes in snippets. I get 5 minutes a few times an hour to check my “coffee list” of blogs and make a quick comment. I have tried blogging at Town Hall but the user interface is a giant pain in the rear and as a single parent of two kids in silicon valley, don’t want the extra expense of a hosted blog. Google is out too, as they are generally evil 🙂 .

    CA-10 has received very little national attention and it is in the heart of way left liberal country. You can literally throw a rock from Berkeley to that district. But, Harmer is doing a major “get out the vote” operation with a lot of volunteers to get the electorate motivated to show up on an off year election. The local press is doing all it can to suppress the fact that there even IS an election.

    Here is what Harmer put out yesterday in email to supporters:

    * Although the survey showed Democratic candidate John Garamendi ahead by 10 points, the survey assumed a Democrat-heavy turnout with only 32% of voters being Republicans. But in the open primary held on September 1, Republicans turned out in much higher numbers than this survey currently assumes.
    * Also, consider that the first election was dominated by four strong Democratic candidates — all of whom were conducting independent and well financed ‘get out the vote’ efforts among the Democratic base.
    * This time, John Garamendi has a significant 20-point negative rating among Democrats in this district, and 30-points among all voters. That means 1 out of every 5 Democrats doesn’t agree with Garamendi or his policies. Many Democrats who voted in the first election simply won’t vote in the runoff election, or they’ll vote for another candidate.
    * Meanwhile, we are now waging a widespread and comprehensive get-out-the-vote effort among our Republican base, with hundreds of volunteers walking precincts and making phone calls every day. Our turnout percentage will exceed by-a-mile the turnout from the first election.
    * Also consider that voter turnout is traditionally lower in special elections, and the highly motivated voters tend to dominate the outcome. Right now, conservatives are the motivated voters. Every major survey across the country shows this, and it’s corroborated by our own experience in this campaign.

    The bottom line is that we are poised for an historic upset that will rock Washington D.C. to its very core. But we must finish strong, and now is when we need everyone pushing as hard as possible for victory.

    So it is difficult to sort out what is going on but the CBS massive oversampling of Democrats using “typical” election turnout numbers with the Democrat ahead by only 10 points smells like a potential upset in the works if Republicans can manage to show up at the poll in large numbers.

    Democrats are already preparing their “emergency vote reserve” in New Jersey by asking the Secretary of State to ignore the fact that the signatures on the mail in ballots don’t match the signatures on the voter registration cards.

  8. Mike M. says:

    Pushed? No. Dede was revealed.

  9. Alert1201 says:

    This is not the self destruction of the republican party. It’s the grass root republicans giving the finger to the cigar-smoking-backroom-dealing elites that are running/ruining the party. Remember it was Sarah, the savior of the republican party, that got all this started by being the first public figure of significance to supported Hoffman. Why in the world would we want to send a person to congress who will vote with the dems 90% of the time? Only a philo-centrist would see it any other way.

    An excellent quote from Sarah herself:
    “Political parties must stand for something,” Palin wrote in a note on her Facebook page Thursday evening. “When Republicans were in the wilderness in the late 1970s, Ronald Reagan knew that the doctrine of ‘blurring the lines’ between parties was not an appropriate way to win elections.

    “Unfortunately, the Republican Party today has decided to choose a candidate (Scozzafava) who more than blurs the lines, and there is no real difference between the Democrat and the Republican in this race. This is why Doug Hoffman is running on the Conservative Party’s ticket,”

  10. Alert1201 says:

    Great! Lovely! Scozzafava has just thrown her support to Owen. What a _________! You fill in the blank. Some thanks for the NRCC spending 900K on her campaign.

  11. kathie says:

    I think that before I support any candidate I will have to do a background check, maybe the FBI can help. The big question is who is DeDe?

  12. daniel ortega says:

    A background check would be a good idea for all candidates,
    especially El-Presidente’, Si?

  13. crosspatch says:

    Any ACORN supporter getting the nod from the RNC is suspect.

  14. gary1son says:

    I’m afraid that it’s the “fringe fanatics” that have effected Dede dropping out in the first place. It’s not fair to denigrate them after their invaluable contribution to this important fight. You can’t expect people to contribute to Hoffman without telling it like it is about Dede, and sometimes that just doesn’t mix with being totally polite and diplomatic all the time.

    Actually, most of the mainstream rightwing blogs I read at least were quite respectful and thankful to her for dropping out. They mostly said she was not a bad person, but simply didn’t properly represent the sentiments of her district. I read comment after comment thanking her and wishing her well in her other political endeavors.

    I’m quite confident that the one person Dede is maddest at, and who probably most influenced her decision to endorse Owens, is Sarah Palin — the epitome of polite opposition in this affair. I’m guessing she hates Sarah with a glowing hot passion, because Sarah really spearheaded the backlash against her. She is most on her mind as she dreams of an Owens victory, I strongly suspect.

    I doubt A.J. wants to blame Sarah for Dede’s endorsement of Owens, but IMHO that is probably where the “blame” truly lies, at least in Dede’s mind. In reality of course, Dede herself is to blame for being a spiteful child, who obviously cares more about personal revenge than she does about electing someone who will vote with what she claims is her party — against the onrushing tide of unsustainable freedom and economy killing government spending and expansionism.

  15. archtop says:

    Sorry AJ – I totally disagree with your assessment. Nobody pushed anyone (certainly not the “far right” – whatever that is) – Scozzafava did this all on her own. We all should be getting behind Hoffman at this point, since he’s apparently the only candidate who is concerned that we have a trillion dollar deficit…

    May we have an army of Hoffmans (even fresh Democrat “Blue Dog” Hoffmans) in 2010! Someone has to address our out of control spending or we’re done.

  16. crosspatch says:

    So it turns out that Favabeans endorsed the Democrat after being asked to by Chuck Schumer.

    She isn’t/wasn’t a Republican. She is a Democrat running with an R after her name. I bet she has never voted Republican in her life.

  17. crosspatch says:

    “I bet she has never voted Republican in her life.”

    Except for herself, that is.

  18. Redteam says:

    Scozzafava has just thrown her support to Owen.

    and, of course, we’re all surprised that a leftie has thrown her support to a ….gasp…..leftie. It’s those far righties, such as Palin and Thompson that drove her to it.

    Centrist? did you ever see a herd of cows, in an old western, standing around waiting for someone to shoot a gun so they could all run in a stampede The herd was stampeding ‘from’ something, not ‘to’ something.
    I don’t see how anyone can be an ‘independent’ or ‘centrist’. That seems to mean that you’re not sure what you want until you see it. I mean, I know what my political beliefs are and I’m gonna vote for the politician who most nearly fits those ideals. Reagan was ideal but men like that come along only once in a lifetime. The absolute opposite, Obama, also only comes along once in a lifetime. I didn’t have to know who Obama’s opponent was going to be before I decided who I would vote for. and I didn’t need for the opponent to say if he was gonna be a leftie lite. ANYONE (that was going to be a candidate) in the USA was going to be better than Obama. absolutely hands down.

  19. Terrye says:

    Aj:

    Sometimes I agree with you when it comes to the far right, but this Dede person was a crappy candidate..and by throwing her support to the Democrat she just stabbed all those Republicans who supported her in the back.

    If there had been a primary I doubt very much if she would have won, but the locals owed her some favors and so she got the nod from the precinct committee leaders who probably did not know or care what her politics really were.

    Hoffman probably should have gotten the nomination in the first place, if he had he would have won easily and no one outside of NY23 would have even heard of the race.

  20. Terrye says:

    Why is my post awaiting moderation, it was not obscene or anything.

    You are wrong this time AJ. Dede was a bad candidate, that was the problem.