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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the whole thing will blow up in their faces. After all, the Senate and House do not agree. The House passed cap and trade and it died in the Senate. I have a feeling the health care bill will do the same.

They might pass something just to make Obama look better, but I doubt very much if it will be what the House passed. And even then they had to pass it at 11 at night on a weekend and barely managed to get it done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the whole thing will blow up in their faces. After all, the Senate and House do not agree. The House passed cap and trade and it died in the Senate. I have a feeling the health care bill will do the same.</p>
<p>They might pass something just to make Obama look better, but I doubt very much if it will be what the House passed. And even then they had to pass it at 11 at night on a weekend and barely managed to get it done.</p>
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		<title>By: kathie</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/11244/comment-page-1#comment-502382</link>
		<dc:creator>kathie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This can be read in full at FREEREPUBLIC. The question that  Obama must answer before he continues on his present rampage of finding a trillion dollars to fund medical care for everybody, is, if he needs to raise a trillion dollars for this program, how is he going to raise the money needed to pay off this enormous debt? It appears he thinks that those who earn $500,000 or more will continue to earn that amount or more no matter how much he taxes them. History proves him wrong, but we know Obama does not have an inclination to recognize that much existed before he became President.

Up Against a Wall of Debt, Part II
Newsweek ^ &#124; 11/6/09
Are the United States, Japan, Great Britain, and other first-world nations in danger of defaulting on their debt? In my latest NEWSWEEK column, I suggested that the unthinkable had become thinkable: some advanced societyâ€”say, the United States, Spain, Italy, Japan, or Great Britainâ€”might someday default on its government debt. It wouldn&#039;t pay its creditors all they were owed or wouldn&#039;t pay them on time. Just a few days later, and completely coincidentally, the International Monetary Fund (IMF) issued a report that, without saying so, added credence to this unsettling hypothesis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This can be read in full at FREEREPUBLIC. The question that  Obama must answer before he continues on his present rampage of finding a trillion dollars to fund medical care for everybody, is, if he needs to raise a trillion dollars for this program, how is he going to raise the money needed to pay off this enormous debt? It appears he thinks that those who earn $500,000 or more will continue to earn that amount or more no matter how much he taxes them. History proves him wrong, but we know Obama does not have an inclination to recognize that much existed before he became President.</p>
<p>Up Against a Wall of Debt, Part II<br />
Newsweek ^ | 11/6/09<br />
Are the United States, Japan, Great Britain, and other first-world nations in danger of defaulting on their debt? In my latest NEWSWEEK column, I suggested that the unthinkable had become thinkable: some advanced societyâ€”say, the United States, Spain, Italy, Japan, or Great Britainâ€”might someday default on its government debt. It wouldn&#8217;t pay its creditors all they were owed or wouldn&#8217;t pay them on time. Just a few days later, and completely coincidentally, the International Monetary Fund (IMF) issued a report that, without saying so, added credence to this unsettling hypothesis.</p>
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		<title>By: All American Blogger &#187; 220-215: A Blogosphere Roundup</title>
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		<dc:creator>All American Blogger &#187; 220-215: A Blogosphere Roundup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] AJ Strata points out, &#8220;The real bipartisan vote was against the measure with 39 Dems defecting.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] AJ Strata points out, &#8220;The real bipartisan vote was against the measure with 39 Dems defecting.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/11244/comment-page-1#comment-502380</link>
		<dc:creator>crosspatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If I could have taken all the money that I had given the government over 35 years, I could have easily had many other choices.&quot;

Heck, I could probably have enough put back to have a $100,000 deductible policy.  

It just burns me up when I hear people who spend $300 a month on pot complain that they can&#039;t afford health insurance.  As far as I am concerned, this notion that the community is responsible for providing for someone&#039;s health care is nuts.  If we are going to have to ration access to health care, I am in favor of rationing it this way:  Those who work all their lives and put money back for their old age get the care they can afford.  Same with those who sit around whining and blow all their money on drugs.  They won&#039;t be able to afford any so they won&#039;t get any leaving more available to those who busted their rear ends all their lives.

I am just sick of the ticks that socialism breeds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If I could have taken all the money that I had given the government over 35 years, I could have easily had many other choices.&#8221;</p>
<p>Heck, I could probably have enough put back to have a $100,000 deductible policy.  </p>
<p>It just burns me up when I hear people who spend $300 a month on pot complain that they can&#8217;t afford health insurance.  As far as I am concerned, this notion that the community is responsible for providing for someone&#8217;s health care is nuts.  If we are going to have to ration access to health care, I am in favor of rationing it this way:  Those who work all their lives and put money back for their old age get the care they can afford.  Same with those who sit around whining and blow all their money on drugs.  They won&#8217;t be able to afford any so they won&#8217;t get any leaving more available to those who busted their rear ends all their lives.</p>
<p>I am just sick of the ticks that socialism breeds.</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>crosspatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read an article that over 50,000 people have received H1N1 vaccinations in Chicago.  That is interesting because as far as I know, not a single dose of it is available in my county anywhere at any price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read an article that over 50,000 people have received H1N1 vaccinations in Chicago.  That is interesting because as far as I know, not a single dose of it is available in my county anywhere at any price.</p>
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		<title>By: kathie</title>
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		<dc:creator>kathie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People say the elderly love medicare. They don&#039;t love medicare, they have NO CHOICE, NOBODY WILL INSURE YOU AFTER YOU TURN 65. I would have loved to have continued my Blue Cross Blue Shield, BUT the government would NOT let me. If I could have taken all the money that I had given the government over 35 years, I could have easily had many other choices. I wouldn&#039;t have to wait each year to see what congress would give me or take away as if my money and medical care was theirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People say the elderly love medicare. They don&#8217;t love medicare, they have NO CHOICE, NOBODY WILL INSURE YOU AFTER YOU TURN 65. I would have loved to have continued my Blue Cross Blue Shield, BUT the government would NOT let me. If I could have taken all the money that I had given the government over 35 years, I could have easily had many other choices. I wouldn&#8217;t have to wait each year to see what congress would give me or take away as if my money and medical care was theirs.</p>
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		<title>By: Jinny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jinny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lurker, could medicare be repealed? Could Social Security be repealed? Once this monstrosity is forced through as I believe it will be, no, it won&#039;t be repealed. 

I hope and pray it can&#039;t make it through the Senate, but the liberals will probably use the nuclear option which only needs 50 votes. Who will stand up to oppose it to pass it? It&#039;s obvious that the liberals in charge of the Senate, House and the Presidency don&#039;t care what we want. They want complete control of our lives and they are so close they can taste it. 

I never thought I&#039;d live to be in a socialist country but I never believed that the people in America could be fooled so easily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lurker, could medicare be repealed? Could Social Security be repealed? Once this monstrosity is forced through as I believe it will be, no, it won&#8217;t be repealed. </p>
<p>I hope and pray it can&#8217;t make it through the Senate, but the liberals will probably use the nuclear option which only needs 50 votes. Who will stand up to oppose it to pass it? It&#8217;s obvious that the liberals in charge of the Senate, House and the Presidency don&#8217;t care what we want. They want complete control of our lives and they are so close they can taste it. </p>
<p>I never thought I&#8217;d live to be in a socialist country but I never believed that the people in America could be fooled so easily.</p>
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		<title>By: lurker9876</title>
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		<dc:creator>lurker9876</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How easy will it be to repeal and/or reverse a bill?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How easy will it be to repeal and/or reverse a bill?</p>
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		<title>By: Frogg1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frogg1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PelosiCare&#039;s price controls will bankrupt health insurers in one year 
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2009/11/how-pelosicare-will-bankrupt-health.html

I&#039;d also like to ask how the government deciding what meets an &quot;approved plan&quot; definition allows for any competition?   It doesn&#039;t.

I think the Dem grand scheme is to force private insurance to comply and all become identical.....then through price controls they will force them all into bancruptcy.....leaving only the government option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PelosiCare&#8217;s price controls will bankrupt health insurers in one year<br />
<a href="http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2009/11/how-pelosicare-will-bankrupt-health.html" rel="nofollow">http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2009/11/how-pelosicare-will-bankrupt-health.html</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;d also like to ask how the government deciding what meets an &#8220;approved plan&#8221; definition allows for any competition?   It doesn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I think the Dem grand scheme is to force private insurance to comply and all become identical&#8230;..then through price controls they will force them all into bancruptcy&#8230;..leaving only the government option.</p>
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		<title>By: Frogg1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frogg1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it will be a short term victory that will blow up in their faces down the road.   The facts of the bill passed will be the topic of many discussions for months now.  When these facts become a comprehended realization to the average American...I believe they will reject it with great strength.   Time will tell.

I think it is time to dust off &quot;The Road to Serfdom&quot; from the bookcase and read it again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it will be a short term victory that will blow up in their faces down the road.   The facts of the bill passed will be the topic of many discussions for months now.  When these facts become a comprehended realization to the average American&#8230;I believe they will reject it with great strength.   Time will tell.</p>
<p>I think it is time to dust off &#8220;The Road to Serfdom&#8221; from the bookcase and read it again.</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>crosspatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard it put very nicely on the radio the other day.  With the health care bill, government will control everything has an impact inside of your body, with Cap and Trade they will control everything that has an impact outside of your body.  In short, EVERYTHING is either inside your body or part of the environment outside of it.  With these two bills, government will control EVERYTHING you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard it put very nicely on the radio the other day.  With the health care bill, government will control everything has an impact inside of your body, with Cap and Trade they will control everything that has an impact outside of your body.  In short, EVERYTHING is either inside your body or part of the environment outside of it.  With these two bills, government will control EVERYTHING you do.</p>
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		<title>By: Toes192</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toes192</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sry pushed the send button accidentally....
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The Dems [Pelosi] ALWAYS had the votes... The 39 Dems [taking Aj&#039;s number as correct] who voted against were given permission by Pelosi to vote against so they can go back to their district with a &quot;No&quot; vote on the health care bill on record...
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IF Pelosi had NEEDED their vote to get to 218... I&#039;ll opine that almost every one of them would have &quot;persuaded&quot;  to switch...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sry pushed the send button accidentally&#8230;.<br />
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The Dems [Pelosi] ALWAYS had the votes&#8230; The 39 Dems [taking Aj's number as correct] who voted against were given permission by Pelosi to vote against so they can go back to their district with a &#8220;No&#8221; vote on the health care bill on record&#8230;<br />
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IF Pelosi had NEEDED their vote to get to 218&#8230; I&#8217;ll opine that almost every one of them would have &#8220;persuaded&#8221;  to switch&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Toes192</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toes192</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there any Strata Sphere reader who is dumb enough to believe that the Dems ALWAYS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any Strata Sphere reader who is dumb enough to believe that the Dems ALWAYS</p>
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		<title>By: kathie</title>
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		<dc:creator>kathie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do we need a trillion dollar insurance program if 85% of all Americans have insurance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do we need a trillion dollar insurance program if 85% of all Americans have insurance?</p>
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		<title>By: kathie</title>
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		<dc:creator>kathie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The House passed cap and trade as well.....! Does that say something about their intelligence?</description>
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