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		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1126/comment-page-2#comment-3356</link>
		<dc:creator>AJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 01:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MerryJ1,

I am not sure yet!  I&#039;ll email you so you can email me.

AJStrata</description>
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<p>I am not sure yet!  I&#8217;ll email you so you can email me.</p>
<p>AJStrata</p>
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		<title>By: MerryJ1</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1126/comment-page-2#comment-3353</link>
		<dc:creator>MerryJ1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 00:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve not yet reached Klayman (his phone message indicated he would not be in today, 1/3, so he presumably also hasn&#039;t yet seen the e-mail from a few days ago).

I did, however, remember something (loosely) relevant from a few years ago, and talked to someone from the Chicago office of the law firm involved: This is the firm (the NY or DC office) which represented Israel/Mossad in the prior restraint case attempting to block publication of Victor Ovstrovsky&#039;s &quot;By Way of Deception&quot; (probably published 1991 or 1992, I&#039;m not sure). Ovstrovsky had been an intelligence officer with Mossad.

Prior restraint is usually a loser, as Nixon learned in trying to stop publication of the Pentagon Papers. But we&#039;re not talking about prior restraint, we&#039;re talking about &quot;depraved indifference&quot; or &quot;reckless disregard&quot; which puts ourselves, our families, our communities and our country in grave peril. And, we&#039;re not a government agency trying to muzzle the press.

I should have a legal opinion sometime tomorrow afternoon.

AJ, who should I contact to set up some method of coordinating this thing? &lt;em&gt;Edited out email address - AJStrata&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve not yet reached Klayman (his phone message indicated he would not be in today, 1/3, so he presumably also hasn&#8217;t yet seen the e-mail from a few days ago).</p>
<p>I did, however, remember something (loosely) relevant from a few years ago, and talked to someone from the Chicago office of the law firm involved: This is the firm (the NY or DC office) which represented Israel/Mossad in the prior restraint case attempting to block publication of Victor Ovstrovsky&#8217;s &#8220;By Way of Deception&#8221; (probably published 1991 or 1992, I&#8217;m not sure). Ovstrovsky had been an intelligence officer with Mossad.</p>
<p>Prior restraint is usually a loser, as Nixon learned in trying to stop publication of the Pentagon Papers. But we&#8217;re not talking about prior restraint, we&#8217;re talking about &#8220;depraved indifference&#8221; or &#8220;reckless disregard&#8221; which puts ourselves, our families, our communities and our country in grave peril. And, we&#8217;re not a government agency trying to muzzle the press.</p>
<p>I should have a legal opinion sometime tomorrow afternoon.</p>
<p>AJ, who should I contact to set up some method of coordinating this thing? <em>Edited out email address &#8211; AJStrata</em></p>
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		<title>By: Judith</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1126/comment-page-2#comment-3347</link>
		<dc:creator>Judith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 20:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sign me up for the class action suit. Seriously, I would contribute to it.</description>
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		<title>By: Marc Schulman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Schulman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 17:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Count me in on the class-action suit.  This has got to stop.</description>
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		<title>By: alcibiades</title>
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		<dc:creator>alcibiades</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 06:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw Rand Beers on Fox News talking about this NSA scandal.  He was down the middle - not at all like a Joe Wilson, or Larry Johnson.  Now it could be he is smarter than they are and absolutely a cool customer and had read the polls and understood their implications, unlike the others, but he didn&#039;t strike me at all as likely to be the leaker in this case</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw Rand Beers on Fox News talking about this NSA scandal.  He was down the middle &#8211; not at all like a Joe Wilson, or Larry Johnson.  Now it could be he is smarter than they are and absolutely a cool customer and had read the polls and understood their implications, unlike the others, but he didn&#8217;t strike me at all as likely to be the leaker in this case</p>
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		<title>By: The Jaws of Victory &#187; Perfectionism</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1126/comment-page-2#comment-3333</link>
		<dc:creator>The Jaws of Victory &#187; Perfectionism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 05:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And I&#8217;m a bit sick of it. There&#8217;s a small movement starting, see ShrinkWrapped and The Strata-Sphere. I think perhaps the apparent monolithic cynical opposition to America in general and anything not politically &#8220;left&#8221; in particular on the part of the majority of American and International news outlets has finally created the seed of organized opposition. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] And I&#8217;m a bit sick of it. There&#8217;s a small movement starting, see ShrinkWrapped and The Strata-Sphere. I think perhaps the apparent monolithic cynical opposition to America in general and anything not politically &#8220;left&#8221; in particular on the part of the majority of American and International news outlets has finally created the seed of organized opposition. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 01:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed,

I accidentally deleted your comment about Joy Reid&#039;s blog and there comments about me.  If you are willing, I would like it reposted (until I figure out how to salvage deleted messages).

To answer your question - yes, I know what is going on there.  If you go to the comments section you will see I comment on Joy&#039;s site quite a bit.

Sorry for the fat fingers (or in this case, lose cursor)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed,</p>
<p>I accidentally deleted your comment about Joy Reid&#8217;s blog and there comments about me.  If you are willing, I would like it reposted (until I figure out how to salvage deleted messages).</p>
<p>To answer your question &#8211; yes, I know what is going on there.  If you go to the comments section you will see I comment on Joy&#8217;s site quite a bit.</p>
<p>Sorry for the fat fingers (or in this case, lose cursor)</p>
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		<title>By: All Things Beautiful</title>
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		<dc:creator>All Things Beautiful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 00:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Another Stab From The New York &#039;Aids The Enemy&#039; Times&lt;/strong&gt;

&#039;Muslim Scholars Were Paid to Aid U.S. Propaganda&#039; is the title of today&#039;s The New York &#039;Aids The Enemy&#039; Times. Could have well been written by Al-Jazeera, starting with the title. Unbelievable. I have no idea what harted driven anti-American prop...</description>
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<p>&#8216;Muslim Scholars Were Paid to Aid U.S. Propaganda&#8217; is the title of today&#8217;s The New York &#8216;Aids The Enemy&#8217; Times. Could have well been written by Al-Jazeera, starting with the title. Unbelievable. I have no idea what harted driven anti-American prop&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Snapple</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1126/comment-page-2#comment-3323</link>
		<dc:creator>Snapple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 00:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ writes:

&quot;You can show harm in this case because the leakers and their media mouthpieces are destroying our protections. Whether increased risk or actual damage has to be proved is an interesting question. But the suite is not to win, it is to show the media where it stands with the people. &quot;

I am not a lawyer, but if you sue for damages then the other side can
possibly subpoena the government for secret information to demonstrate there was no damage.

I am not an expert, but the ACLU is always doing these lawsuits to get information out of the government.

They got a lot of intelligence information from the police in Denver about radical groups being investigated for suspicion of terrorism.

It is released selectively to embarrass the government. The government can only defend themselves by showing more.

If you got the ACLU to do this for you, they would not really be representing the interests of government secrecy--which is what this is about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ writes:</p>
<p>&#8220;You can show harm in this case because the leakers and their media mouthpieces are destroying our protections. Whether increased risk or actual damage has to be proved is an interesting question. But the suite is not to win, it is to show the media where it stands with the people. &#8221;</p>
<p>I am not a lawyer, but if you sue for damages then the other side can<br />
possibly subpoena the government for secret information to demonstrate there was no damage.</p>
<p>I am not an expert, but the ACLU is always doing these lawsuits to get information out of the government.</p>
<p>They got a lot of intelligence information from the police in Denver about radical groups being investigated for suspicion of terrorism.</p>
<p>It is released selectively to embarrass the government. The government can only defend themselves by showing more.</p>
<p>If you got the ACLU to do this for you, they would not really be representing the interests of government secrecy&#8211;which is what this is about.</p>
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		<title>By: protein wisdom</title>
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		<dc:creator>protein wisdom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 23:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Western Winds&lt;/strong&gt;

Mark Steyn on Islam and the West. From &quot;It&#8217;s the demography, stupid,&quot; The New Criterion:[...] The challenge for those who reckon western civilization is on balance better than the alternatives is to figure out a way to save at least som...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Western Winds</strong></p>
<p>Mark Steyn on Islam and the West. From &quot;It&#8217;s the demography, stupid,&quot; The New Criterion:[...] The challenge for those who reckon western civilization is on balance better than the alternatives is to figure out a way to save at least som&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: PierreLegrand</title>
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		<dc:creator>PierreLegrand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 22:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the kind mention AJ. The article where I truly respond to the idea that the Press is the Center of all Evil is here
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.papadoc.net/2006/01/press-as-center-of-all-eviland-other.html&quot; title=&quot;The Press as the Center of All Evil...and other absurd notions&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Press as the Center of All Evil...and other absurd notions &lt;/a&gt;

I find your trust in the Government policing up the leakers to be quaint in the face of the difficulties of exposing so many other problems in our government...Able Danger, CIA Incompetence etc etc. 

Furthermore there seems to be an exemption if you are a Senator that is dangerous to our country.  Senator Shelby for instance should have been prosecuted as well as Patrick Leahy. If anyone is above the law then the law does not exist.

Given the magnitude of the exposures and the almost casual attitude towards leaks by the Bush Administration it would seem that your faith in the government policing up its own is misplaced. When President Bush presumed that a Justice Department investigation was in the works I didn&#039;t get a charge out of his cuteness I got upset by his casualness. Yea I know he is pissed but I want someone&#039;s ass. Sandy Berger should have gone to jail. Anyone who leaks secrets should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law...that will take care of the problems with the media.

It is a very uneasy idea for me to want to put limits, even informal limits on the press. I prefer to use them as the Canary in the Coal mine to warn us when there are people inside of the Government who are willing to jeopardize this country for money or ideology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the kind mention AJ. The article where I truly respond to the idea that the Press is the Center of all Evil is here<br />
<a href="http://www.papadoc.net/2006/01/press-as-center-of-all-eviland-other.html" title="The Press as the Center of All Evil...and other absurd notions" rel="nofollow">The Press as the Center of All Evil&#8230;and other absurd notions </a></p>
<p>I find your trust in the Government policing up the leakers to be quaint in the face of the difficulties of exposing so many other problems in our government&#8230;Able Danger, CIA Incompetence etc etc. </p>
<p>Furthermore there seems to be an exemption if you are a Senator that is dangerous to our country.  Senator Shelby for instance should have been prosecuted as well as Patrick Leahy. If anyone is above the law then the law does not exist.</p>
<p>Given the magnitude of the exposures and the almost casual attitude towards leaks by the Bush Administration it would seem that your faith in the government policing up its own is misplaced. When President Bush presumed that a Justice Department investigation was in the works I didn&#8217;t get a charge out of his cuteness I got upset by his casualness. Yea I know he is pissed but I want someone&#8217;s ass. Sandy Berger should have gone to jail. Anyone who leaks secrets should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law&#8230;that will take care of the problems with the media.</p>
<p>It is a very uneasy idea for me to want to put limits, even informal limits on the press. I prefer to use them as the Canary in the Coal mine to warn us when there are people inside of the Government who are willing to jeopardize this country for money or ideology.</p>
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		<title>By: MerryJ1</title>
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		<dc:creator>MerryJ1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 21:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ,

I sent an e-mail query, with link to this article and comments, to Larry Klayman. I&#039;ll follow up with a phone call in a couple of days if I don&#039;t hear anything, and will keep you posted with whatever I can find out.

Merry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ,</p>
<p>I sent an e-mail query, with link to this article and comments, to Larry Klayman. I&#8217;ll follow up with a phone call in a couple of days if I don&#8217;t hear anything, and will keep you posted with whatever I can find out.</p>
<p>Merry</p>
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		<title>By: sisu</title>
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		<dc:creator>sisu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;We were expendable&lt;/strong&gt;

They Were Expendable, MGM 1945. Donna Reed and John Wayne. (MPTV photo) They have determined their desperation makes them above the law, and the rest of us expendable in their war against America, writes AJStrata of The Strata-Sphere [via The</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>We were expendable</strong></p>
<p>They Were Expendable, MGM 1945. Donna Reed and John Wayne. (MPTV photo) They have determined their desperation makes them above the law, and the rest of us expendable in their war against America, writes AJStrata of The Strata-Sphere [via The</p>
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		<title>By: ReidBlog</title>
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		<dc:creator>ReidBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Comey don&#039;t play that&lt;/strong&gt;

Update: AJ Strata has apparently gone mad, and he&#039;s taken The Anchoress with him...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Comey don&#8217;t play that</strong></p>
<p>Update: AJ Strata has apparently gone mad, and he&#8217;s taken The Anchoress with him&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Battle Born News BLOG &#187; Liberal Media Saga Continues&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Battle Born News BLOG &#187; Liberal Media Saga Continues&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 19:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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