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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;True&#8217; Conservatives Turning Reagan&#8217;s Big Tent Into A Pup Tent</title>
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		<title>By: Frogg1</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/11661/comment-page-3#comment-508142</link>
		<dc:creator>Frogg1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 09:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, myself, find Charles Johnson&#039;s post pretty extreme; and James Joyner&#039;s post about it much more sane.

Johnson Breaks From The Right
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/charles_johnson_breaks_from_the_right/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, myself, find Charles Johnson&#8217;s post pretty extreme; and James Joyner&#8217;s post about it much more sane.</p>
<p>Johnson Breaks From The Right<br />
<a href="http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/charles_johnson_breaks_from_the_right/" rel="nofollow">http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/charles_johnson_breaks_from_the_right/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Harold C. Hutchison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harold C. Hutchison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 05:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lieberman turned from his party for the good of the country on Iraq and the War on Terror in general.

Charles Johnson, on the other hand, seems to be out for Charles Johnson. The post seemed to be very self-serving and more a recitation of Stuff you&#039;d hear from Keith Olbermann.

As I said, I&#039;d be impressed with Johnson&#039;s beef with Glenn Beck if I had any indication that he had actually bothered to read The 5000 Year Leap. He need sto actually take Beck&#039;s ideas on, not potshots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lieberman turned from his party for the good of the country on Iraq and the War on Terror in general.</p>
<p>Charles Johnson, on the other hand, seems to be out for Charles Johnson. The post seemed to be very self-serving and more a recitation of Stuff you&#8217;d hear from Keith Olbermann.</p>
<p>As I said, I&#8217;d be impressed with Johnson&#8217;s beef with Glenn Beck if I had any indication that he had actually bothered to read The 5000 Year Leap. He need sto actually take Beck&#8217;s ideas on, not potshots.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 04:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ:

Lieberman is a good man and I respect him. Charles Johnson is a jerk. Big difference.</description>
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<p>Lieberman is a good man and I respect him. Charles Johnson is a jerk. Big difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Redteam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redteam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Could you or others debunk it scientifically?&lt;/i&gt;

no need to.  look at the raw data.  it proves itself.  
there have been many times, over time, that the earth was much hotter.  

the question should be just the opposite.  How could anyone take the raw data and convince anyone there is such a thing as &#039;AGW&#039;?

I have a tecnnical, scientific, management background and I can say for sure there is no raw data that supports AGW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Could you or others debunk it scientifically?</i></p>
<p>no need to.  look at the raw data.  it proves itself.<br />
there have been many times, over time, that the earth was much hotter.  </p>
<p>the question should be just the opposite.  How could anyone take the raw data and convince anyone there is such a thing as &#8216;AGW&#8217;?</p>
<p>I have a tecnnical, scientific, management background and I can say for sure there is no raw data that supports AGW.</p>
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		<title>By: sherman50</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 02:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Do you know where this nation would be without Joe Lieberman? We would have run from Iraq and made al Qaeda famous.&quot;

Joe Lieberman is a grown up who cares about his country. He doesn&#039;t sit around and whine about how dangerous Christians are and how &quot;far&quot; Right people like Sarah Palin have ruined our country.

Charles Johnson is like Andrew Sullivan. A sad, unserious creature who runs a pathetic blog. He had a reality check like many of us did on 9/11 but that&#039;s apparently ancient history now. Nobody drove him away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Do you know where this nation would be without Joe Lieberman? We would have run from Iraq and made al Qaeda famous.&#8221;</p>
<p>Joe Lieberman is a grown up who cares about his country. He doesn&#8217;t sit around and whine about how dangerous Christians are and how &#8220;far&#8221; Right people like Sarah Palin have ruined our country.</p>
<p>Charles Johnson is like Andrew Sullivan. A sad, unserious creature who runs a pathetic blog. He had a reality check like many of us did on 9/11 but that&#8217;s apparently ancient history now. Nobody drove him away.</p>
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		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 02:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harold, no excuses for Johnson&#039;s problems, and no excuses for those who drove a left of center icon from &#039;the right.

Do you know where this nation would be without Joe Lieberman? We would have run from Iraq and made al Qaeda famous.

That&#039;s what happens when this pattern is repeated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harold, no excuses for Johnson&#8217;s problems, and no excuses for those who drove a left of center icon from &#8216;the right.</p>
<p>Do you know where this nation would be without Joe Lieberman? We would have run from Iraq and made al Qaeda famous.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what happens when this pattern is repeated.</p>
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		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 02:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Redteam, the case made by the alarmist is persuasive to many. The Earth is warming. Could you or others debunk it scientifically?

Sadly those who can debunk it ignored it for too long, not thinking it would take hold. Now we have to work 100 times as hard to roll it all back.

That is not Johnson&#039;s fault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Redteam, the case made by the alarmist is persuasive to many. The Earth is warming. Could you or others debunk it scientifically?</p>
<p>Sadly those who can debunk it ignored it for too long, not thinking it would take hold. Now we have to work 100 times as hard to roll it all back.</p>
<p>That is not Johnson&#8217;s fault.</p>
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		<title>By: UPDATED: The Far Right Throws Christ Under the Bus! : The Pink Flamingo</title>
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		<dc:creator>UPDATED: The Far Right Throws Christ Under the Bus! : The Pink Flamingo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 01:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Far Right has now doomed itself. What a few of us thought was a problem is now turning into a rotten carcass, dead, rank, and full of disease ridden maggots and filth. Not only have they managed to throw Reagan under the bus, but now they are stating that a Christian is not capable of being POTUS. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Far Right has now doomed itself. What a few of us thought was a problem is now turning into a rotten carcass, dead, rank, and full of disease ridden maggots and filth. Not only have they managed to throw Reagan under the bus, but now they are stating that a Christian is not capable of being POTUS. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Redteam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redteam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a &lt;i&gt;priceless&lt;/i&gt; comment from CJ, just today:

&lt;i&gt;I didnâ€™t go into this expecting to come out as a proponent of AGW, but the vast weight of the evidence forced me to accept it.&lt;/i&gt;

And, of course, he&#039;s referring to all that faked/altered &#039;vast evidence&quot;

wonder if the revelation of the &#039;real&#039; evidence would force him to accept it?

not a chance....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a <i>priceless</i> comment from CJ, just today:</p>
<p><i>I didnâ€™t go into this expecting to come out as a proponent of AGW, but the vast weight of the evidence forced me to accept it.</i></p>
<p>And, of course, he&#8217;s referring to all that faked/altered &#8216;vast evidence&#8221;</p>
<p>wonder if the revelation of the &#8216;real&#8217; evidence would force him to accept it?</p>
<p>not a chance&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: ivehadit</title>
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		<dc:creator>ivehadit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ, everyone has an agenda, whether, right, center or left, each with their strong beliefs. You have strong beliefs about being a centrist.  I still love you! :)

And we have names for all the nutjobs across the spectrum! So what?  :)

I want to say that, if the Tea Party movement did not have an agenda and strong beliefs, you and I would be suffering from obamacare&#039;s taxes at this very moment, not to mention cap and trade. 

There are certain things that conservatives have as core principles, high priorities: smaller government, strong military, free trade, pro-capitalism, low taxes, right to life and the strong belief in human potential NOT government potential. Social conservatives will add some others, I am sure, which I may or may not agree with. 

Fiscal conservatives, social conservatives, neo-conservatives, paleo conservatives would all share a belief in the above characteristics. Are there nutcases in all of these categories? Heck, yes. Do they argue and debate amongst themselves? Again, yes.

There are many people and some tenets that my church has instituted that I absolutely do not agree with but I am not going to leave but rather stay to outlast the foolishness.

Personally, I don&#039;t think there was a way to keep Charles happy. Just my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ, everyone has an agenda, whether, right, center or left, each with their strong beliefs. You have strong beliefs about being a centrist.  I still love you! <img src='http://strata-sphere.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And we have names for all the nutjobs across the spectrum! So what?  <img src='http://strata-sphere.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I want to say that, if the Tea Party movement did not have an agenda and strong beliefs, you and I would be suffering from obamacare&#8217;s taxes at this very moment, not to mention cap and trade. </p>
<p>There are certain things that conservatives have as core principles, high priorities: smaller government, strong military, free trade, pro-capitalism, low taxes, right to life and the strong belief in human potential NOT government potential. Social conservatives will add some others, I am sure, which I may or may not agree with. </p>
<p>Fiscal conservatives, social conservatives, neo-conservatives, paleo conservatives would all share a belief in the above characteristics. Are there nutcases in all of these categories? Heck, yes. Do they argue and debate amongst themselves? Again, yes.</p>
<p>There are many people and some tenets that my church has instituted that I absolutely do not agree with but I am not going to leave but rather stay to outlast the foolishness.</p>
<p>Personally, I don&#8217;t think there was a way to keep Charles happy. Just my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: dbostan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbostan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 23:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2009/12/someone-needs-attention.html</description>
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		<title>By: Harold C. Hutchison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harold C. Hutchison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 23:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sjreidhead:
Huckabee blew it big time with the commutation of Clemmons ( - and it was not the first act of clemency that had gone bad (DuMont). He deserves the heat he gets on this one.

His use of his Christianity to excuse his screwup is, sadly, typical of him. I&#039;m sorry, but his conduct during the 2008 campaign royally ticked me off.

AJ:
While I know some on the right (Malkin, RS McCain, and Mark Levin, among others) are very hard to stomach, at the same time, Johnson was grossly unfair to Glenn Beck (who was debunking the FEMA camp rumors, among other things). Johnson went off the rails a while ago. It was a shame that both he and RS McCain could not lose that dust-up.

Beck lately has become the first person on the right to really try to develop a long-term plan. I am also willing to wager that unlike most of his critics (like Johnson), I have read at least one of the books he recommends (The 5000 Year Leap), and I don&#039;t see much offensive in that.

But Johnson&#039;s screed was way off base.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sjreidhead:<br />
Huckabee blew it big time with the commutation of Clemmons ( &#8211; and it was not the first act of clemency that had gone bad (DuMont). He deserves the heat he gets on this one.</p>
<p>His use of his Christianity to excuse his screwup is, sadly, typical of him. I&#8217;m sorry, but his conduct during the 2008 campaign royally ticked me off.</p>
<p>AJ:<br />
While I know some on the right (Malkin, RS McCain, and Mark Levin, among others) are very hard to stomach, at the same time, Johnson was grossly unfair to Glenn Beck (who was debunking the FEMA camp rumors, among other things). Johnson went off the rails a while ago. It was a shame that both he and RS McCain could not lose that dust-up.</p>
<p>Beck lately has become the first person on the right to really try to develop a long-term plan. I am also willing to wager that unlike most of his critics (like Johnson), I have read at least one of the books he recommends (The 5000 Year Leap), and I don&#8217;t see much offensive in that.</p>
<p>But Johnson&#8217;s screed was way off base.</p>
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		<title>By: Redteam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redteam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 23:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you honestly think calling a fellow American a nutcase is impressing me????&lt;/i&gt;

Apparently CJ, who makes a ritual of calling people names has impressed you.

So I won&#039;t call CJ a nutcase, but just casual reading clearly demonstrates that he has severe mental stability problems.

&lt;i&gt;It is not a good day for conservatives when folks like Charles Johnson leave the movement &lt;/i&gt;.

He hasn&#039;t gone anywhere, he&#039;s exactly where he&#039;s always been.  he has not now nor never has had any redeeming qualities.  All his friends are right there where they&#039;ve always been.  I won&#039;t bother saying good riddance because he hasn&#039;t gone anywhere.

&lt;i&gt;He was not a conservative, he was an ally from center left&lt;/i&gt;

If CJ was ever an ally of conservatives, it has never been apparent.  He mostly is an ally of Charles Johnson.

I read him for a while 5 years ago, but have only skimmed infrequently since.  Not someone who&#039;s opinion I value, in fact, just the opposite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you honestly think calling a fellow American a nutcase is impressing me????</p>
<p>Apparently CJ, who makes a ritual of calling people names has impressed you.</p>
<p>So I won&#8217;t call CJ a nutcase, but just casual reading clearly demonstrates that he has severe mental stability problems.</p>
<p><i>It is not a good day for conservatives when folks like Charles Johnson leave the movement </i>.</p>
<p>He hasn&#8217;t gone anywhere, he&#8217;s exactly where he&#8217;s always been.  he has not now nor never has had any redeeming qualities.  All his friends are right there where they&#8217;ve always been.  I won&#8217;t bother saying good riddance because he hasn&#8217;t gone anywhere.</p>
<p><i>He was not a conservative, he was an ally from center left</i></p>
<p>If CJ was ever an ally of conservatives, it has never been apparent.  He mostly is an ally of Charles Johnson.</p>
<p>I read him for a while 5 years ago, but have only skimmed infrequently since.  Not someone who&#8217;s opinion I value, in fact, just the opposite.</p>
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		<title>By: dbostan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbostan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strata,
Are you losing your mind?
It is a good thing this schmuck finally went were his heart and actions were for a long time.
How can you defend somebody like him?
What does it say about YOU?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strata,<br />
Are you losing your mind?<br />
It is a good thing this schmuck finally went were his heart and actions were for a long time.<br />
How can you defend somebody like him?<br />
What does it say about YOU?</p>
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		<title>By: MerlinOS2</title>
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		<dc:creator>MerlinOS2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CJ was never really from the right and simply it was is user base of commenters that made the site what it was and not the lackluster postings CJ himself did.

Since then he has banned over 5000 of his best commenters and developed a new group of CJbots to take their place.

As far as which way the country is drifting the unregistered voter base of over 44 million in the voter age population per the census is mostly the conservative sleeping giant that all this policy choices will likely awaken.

Even Rasmussen is showing today Dems deserting that party id in droves to near parity and you have to take into account the lopsided balance in the largest blue states.

The distribution is more key than the absolute numbers.

Some just are not going for the new middle the far left progressives keep marking down with all their goal post moving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CJ was never really from the right and simply it was is user base of commenters that made the site what it was and not the lackluster postings CJ himself did.</p>
<p>Since then he has banned over 5000 of his best commenters and developed a new group of CJbots to take their place.</p>
<p>As far as which way the country is drifting the unregistered voter base of over 44 million in the voter age population per the census is mostly the conservative sleeping giant that all this policy choices will likely awaken.</p>
<p>Even Rasmussen is showing today Dems deserting that party id in droves to near parity and you have to take into account the lopsided balance in the largest blue states.</p>
<p>The distribution is more key than the absolute numbers.</p>
<p>Some just are not going for the new middle the far left progressives keep marking down with all their goal post moving.</p>
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