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		<title>By: The Strata-Sphere &#187; Time We Got Serious About Terrorists With WMDs - Remove The Blindfold From The NSA</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1196/comment-page-1#comment-340806</link>
		<dc:creator>The Strata-Sphere &#187; Time We Got Serious About Terrorists With WMDs - Remove The Blindfold From The NSA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 17:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] will take a moment and go back to one of my posts from January 2006, where I noted a NY Times article that confirmed my then speculation (which has proven to have been [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Strata-Sphere &#187; Blog Archive &#187; NSA Story Is A Liberal Tissue Of Lies</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1196/comment-page-1#comment-4164</link>
		<dc:creator>The Strata-Sphere &#187; Blog Archive &#187; NSA Story Is A Liberal Tissue Of Lies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2006 05:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What Bush did was direct the NSA to send their leads in the US to the FBI for investigation. The first indication this is what truly changed was a NYTimes piece which discussed the wave of investigations the FBI had to do - many of which turned up nothing of import. That is how you work these things. If you want to hide your communications, you do it inside a mass of innocent communications - the proverbial needle in a haystack. You do not try and do one or two and hope they do not get detected. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] What Bush did was direct the NSA to send their leads in the US to the FBI for investigation. The first indication this is what truly changed was a NYTimes piece which discussed the wave of investigations the FBI had to do &#8211; many of which turned up nothing of import. That is how you work these things. If you want to hide your communications, you do it inside a mass of innocent communications &#8211; the proverbial needle in a haystack. You do not try and do one or two and hope they do not get detected. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Sundries Shack</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1196/comment-page-1#comment-4015</link>
		<dc:creator>The Sundries Shack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2006 13:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Both the Strata-Sphere and the Anchoress took on the Times from slightly different angles in a blogging wolfpack. My Council partner looked at the veracity of the paper&#8217;s claims over the past couple of weeks and found it sorely lacking while The Anchoress accused the paper of tipping off terrorists in very critical ways, something it&#8217;s surely done with its coverage. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Both the Strata-Sphere and the Anchoress took on the Times from slightly different angles in a blogging wolfpack. My Council partner looked at the veracity of the paper&#8217;s claims over the past couple of weeks and found it sorely lacking while The Anchoress accused the paper of tipping off terrorists in very critical ways, something it&#8217;s surely done with its coverage. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Strata-Sphere &#187; Blog Archive &#187; NY Times Grasping To Comprehend</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1196/comment-page-1#comment-3814</link>
		<dc:creator>The Strata-Sphere &#187; Blog Archive &#187; NY Times Grasping To Comprehend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 04:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Personally, Bush is at little to no risk because his actions target overseas terrorists and their communications here in the US. But liberals and democrats? They have everything on the line. Because Nagourney is right - it all depends on how the debate is &#8216;framed&#8217;. The NY Times tried to frame the debate as a violation of FISA, only to have to back track and call it simply a burden on the FBI to track all the leads. What the liberals are not understanding is this is their last stand. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Personally, Bush is at little to no risk because his actions target overseas terrorists and their communications here in the US. But liberals and democrats? They have everything on the line. Because Nagourney is right &#8211; it all depends on how the debate is &#8216;framed&#8217;. The NY Times tried to frame the debate as a violation of FISA, only to have to back track and call it simply a burden on the FBI to track all the leads. What the liberals are not understanding is this is their last stand. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ShrinkWrapped</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1196/comment-page-1#comment-3774</link>
		<dc:creator>ShrinkWrapped</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2006 15:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Council Has Spoken!&lt;/strong&gt;

This weeks Council winning post was from The Glittering Eye, Options on Iran II, in which the various options for dealing with Iran and their nukes, none good, are delineated. Second place goes to NY Times Confesses Truth About NSA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Council Has Spoken!</strong></p>
<p>This weeks Council winning post was from The Glittering Eye, Options on Iran II, in which the various options for dealing with Iran and their nukes, none good, are delineated. Second place goes to NY Times Confesses Truth About NSA</p>
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		<title>By: The Glittering Eye &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Council has spoken!</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1196/comment-page-1#comment-3764</link>
		<dc:creator>The Glittering Eye &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Council has spoken!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Watcher&#8217;s Council has announced its picks for the most outstanding posts of the preceding week. This week for the winning Council post the Council tapped my post, Options on Iraq. The second place post was The Strata-Sphere&#8217;s post, &#8220;NY Times Confesses Truth About NSA Leak&#8221;. I don&#8217;t learn something new in every post I read but in this one I did. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Watcher&#8217;s Council has announced its picks for the most outstanding posts of the preceding week. This week for the winning Council post the Council tapped my post, Options on Iraq. The second place post was The Strata-Sphere&#8217;s post, &#8220;NY Times Confesses Truth About NSA Leak&#8221;. I don&#8217;t learn something new in every post I read but in this one I did. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A Blog For All</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Blog For All</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2006 03:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The ACLU and the 9/10 Mindset&lt;/strong&gt;

...it is also an enlightening look at the continuing 9/10 mindset of the Left. The ACLU is one manifestation of the Left&#039;s mindset, the political considerations of the Democratic party and its reaction to the Iraq campaign and the Iranian threat are ...</description>
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<p>&#8230;it is also an enlightening look at the continuing 9/10 mindset of the Left. The ACLU is one manifestation of the Left&#8217;s mindset, the political considerations of the Democratic party and its reaction to the Iraq campaign and the Iranian threat are &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dymphna</title>
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		<dc:creator>dymphna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TrentK269 said it all:

&quot;The main source for Watergate â€œbackgroundâ€ was a disgruntled FBI bureaucrat. The only difference is that today, we have blogs like yours to fill in lots of the blanks. Well done. &quot;

What a difference a generation or two of technology can make.

I hope they get that lazy leaker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TrentK269 said it all:</p>
<p>&#8220;The main source for Watergate â€œbackgroundâ€ was a disgruntled FBI bureaucrat. The only difference is that today, we have blogs like yours to fill in lots of the blanks. Well done. &#8221;</p>
<p>What a difference a generation or two of technology can make.</p>
<p>I hope they get that lazy leaker.</p>
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		<title>By: Snapple</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1196/comment-page-1#comment-3697</link>
		<dc:creator>Snapple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is the link to the NYT article under discussion.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/17/politics/17spy.html?hp&amp;ex=1137560400&amp;en=998d7190aee080f7&amp;ei=5094&amp;partner=homepage</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the link to the NYT article under discussion.<br />
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/17/politics/17spy.html?hp&#038;ex=1137560400&#038;en=998d7190aee080f7&#038;ei=5094&#038;partner=homepage" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/17/politics/17spy.html?hp&#038;ex=1137560400&#038;en=998d7190aee080f7&#038;ei=5094&#038;partner=homepage</a></p>
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		<title>By: Snapple</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1196/comment-page-1#comment-3692</link>
		<dc:creator>Snapple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ---Could you post the link to the article you are discussing.
Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ&#8212;Could you post the link to the article you are discussing.<br />
Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: GroupIntel</title>
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		<dc:creator>GroupIntel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Domestic Surveillance: Baby Should Go with Bathwater&lt;/strong&gt;

The New York Times would have us believe that slow, limited progress = failure:
 

[â€¦] the results of the [NSA intercept] program look very different to some officials charged with tracking terrorism in the United States. More than a dozen current an...</description>
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<p>The New York Times would have us believe that slow, limited progress = failure:</p>
<p>[â€¦] the results of the [NSA intercept] program look very different to some officials charged with tracking terrorism in the United States. More than a dozen current an&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Snapple</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1196/comment-page-1#comment-3687</link>
		<dc:creator>Snapple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a lot of people resist the idea that there are American terrorists. They folks will mask themselves as dissidents and scream sanctimoniously that they are being persecuted for their dissent.

I have no problem with dissent, but if someone is using that as camoflage,  it&#039;s another thing.

I think a lot of folks in government don&#039;t want to trample the rights of dissent, but they need to realize that there really are terrorists hiding in dissenting organizations to give themselves legal protection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a lot of people resist the idea that there are American terrorists. They folks will mask themselves as dissidents and scream sanctimoniously that they are being persecuted for their dissent.</p>
<p>I have no problem with dissent, but if someone is using that as camoflage,  it&#8217;s another thing.</p>
<p>I think a lot of folks in government don&#8217;t want to trample the rights of dissent, but they need to realize that there really are terrorists hiding in dissenting organizations to give themselves legal protection.</p>
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		<title>By: MerryJ1</title>
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		<dc:creator>MerryJ1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, no disagreement; but there is more, and a pre-existing (before 9/11) problem with the FISA court:

I&#039;m sure you have links to this, AJ, the Colleen Rowley letter to FBI Director Mueller*? Her biggest complaint was that the FBI supervisor would not request a FISA warrant to search the Moussaoui computer - that would&#039;ve been a day or so after his arrest August 22, 2001, and information on that computer could have pre-empted 9/11.

* Freeh, not Mueller, was Director prior to 9/11 - it seems like Mueller was appointed just two weeks or so prior to the attack.

In the letter, she alluded to the supervisor&#039;s reluctance being about &quot;career considerations.&quot; I presume she was referring to an FBI &quot;rising star&quot; who was accused by a then-head judge on the FISA court (not the woman judge subsequently at its head) of falsifying something in FISA warrant requests - the judge called Janet Reno in and raised the roof, prohibited that FBI super from submitting any future warrant requests, and his FBI career was subsequently tanked.

But apparently the FISA court was something FBI superiors tried to avoid going to - Rowley was also incensed over re-writes of original FISA applications. Her reasoning may be valid and all, but if so many were intimidated by or pussy-footing around the court, that suggests to me that this was already a rogue court, even before Bush became CIC, and well before 9/11.

But pre-9/11, with the Gorelick wall intact, the FBI would not have been receiving NSA target information. Yet, the FISA court was apparently treating FBI warrant requests with suspicion if not outright contempt.  That doesn&#039;t seem to make a lot of sense, but one of Freeh&#039;s complaints in his book is about lack of serious consideration for the FBI counter-terrorism budget requests (budget wouldn&#039;t be in the court&#039;s domain, but it suggests a pervasive mentality, presumably from the left).

It seems pretty clear that even post-9/11, the court was fighting tooth and nail to retain the Gorelick wall, Patriot Act be damned.

Merry Whitney</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, no disagreement; but there is more, and a pre-existing (before 9/11) problem with the FISA court:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure you have links to this, AJ, the Colleen Rowley letter to FBI Director Mueller*? Her biggest complaint was that the FBI supervisor would not request a FISA warrant to search the Moussaoui computer &#8211; that would&#8217;ve been a day or so after his arrest August 22, 2001, and information on that computer could have pre-empted 9/11.</p>
<p>* Freeh, not Mueller, was Director prior to 9/11 &#8211; it seems like Mueller was appointed just two weeks or so prior to the attack.</p>
<p>In the letter, she alluded to the supervisor&#8217;s reluctance being about &#8220;career considerations.&#8221; I presume she was referring to an FBI &#8220;rising star&#8221; who was accused by a then-head judge on the FISA court (not the woman judge subsequently at its head) of falsifying something in FISA warrant requests &#8211; the judge called Janet Reno in and raised the roof, prohibited that FBI super from submitting any future warrant requests, and his FBI career was subsequently tanked.</p>
<p>But apparently the FISA court was something FBI superiors tried to avoid going to &#8211; Rowley was also incensed over re-writes of original FISA applications. Her reasoning may be valid and all, but if so many were intimidated by or pussy-footing around the court, that suggests to me that this was already a rogue court, even before Bush became CIC, and well before 9/11.</p>
<p>But pre-9/11, with the Gorelick wall intact, the FBI would not have been receiving NSA target information. Yet, the FISA court was apparently treating FBI warrant requests with suspicion if not outright contempt.  That doesn&#8217;t seem to make a lot of sense, but one of Freeh&#8217;s complaints in his book is about lack of serious consideration for the FBI counter-terrorism budget requests (budget wouldn&#8217;t be in the court&#8217;s domain, but it suggests a pervasive mentality, presumably from the left).</p>
<p>It seems pretty clear that even post-9/11, the court was fighting tooth and nail to retain the Gorelick wall, Patriot Act be damned.</p>
<p>Merry Whitney</p>
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		<title>By: Rodney_G_Graves</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rodney_G_Graves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Said.

It boggles the mind that the &quot;professionals&quot; of the MSM have so far been unable to connect the dots in the manner you have here.  You may also find this &lt;a href=&quot;http://bayosphere.com/blog/rodney_graves/20051228/raw_data_year_by_year_data_for_fisa_court_activities&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;year to year breakdown&lt;/a&gt;  of FISA Court activity to be of interest.  The first year of the Bush administration was one of the very few year to year decreases in requests, and 2002 and 2003 saw the greates rate of increase in the history of the court.  All of which supports your thesis.

There are some other linkages that your work above have brought to mind, but I think I&#039;ll have to keep those to myself.

Great work, thanks!

Out Here</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Said.</p>
<p>It boggles the mind that the &#8220;professionals&#8221; of the MSM have so far been unable to connect the dots in the manner you have here.  You may also find this <a href="http://bayosphere.com/blog/rodney_graves/20051228/raw_data_year_by_year_data_for_fisa_court_activities" rel="nofollow">year to year breakdown</a>  of FISA Court activity to be of interest.  The first year of the Bush administration was one of the very few year to year decreases in requests, and 2002 and 2003 saw the greates rate of increase in the history of the court.  All of which supports your thesis.</p>
<p>There are some other linkages that your work above have brought to mind, but I think I&#8217;ll have to keep those to myself.</p>
<p>Great work, thanks!</p>
<p>Out Here</p>
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		<title>By: Macmind - Conservative Commentary and Common Sense</title>
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		<dc:creator>Macmind - Conservative Commentary and Common Sense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;NSA - No Surprise - The Program Works!&lt;/strong&gt;

AJ Strata laid the NSA/FISA story wide open today via this story in the NY Times that shows (now hold on to your seats) that a free flow of intelligence information shared between agencies actually stops terrorist attacks.</description>
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<p>AJ Strata laid the NSA/FISA story wide open today via this story in the NY Times that shows (now hold on to your seats) that a free flow of intelligence information shared between agencies actually stops terrorist attacks.</p>
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