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		<title>By: sbd</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1198/comment-page-1#comment-3709</link>
		<dc:creator>sbd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2006 05:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, it look as if the CCR was resurrected from a Dissolved Foreign Corp back from 1980.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, it look as if the CCR was resurrected from a Dissolved Foreign Corp back from 1980.</p>
<p>SBD</p>
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		<title>By: sbd</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1198/comment-page-1#comment-3708</link>
		<dc:creator>sbd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2006 05:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading the complaint, I would have to agree with Judge Napolitano.

If anyone wants to read the actual complaint filed in court, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbdnews.com/Portals/0/ccr.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here is the link&lt;/a&gt;.

Also, I found something interesting that could show that this is a PR stunt.  According to the documents on Lexis, the Center for Constitutional Rights files an ERRONEOUS ENTRY back in July 2004 when they filed as a foreign corporation in New York.  I am sure they figured out a way to fix  it, but it does look suspicious.  You can see it &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbdnews.com/Portals/0/ccrinc.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

SBD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading the complaint, I would have to agree with Judge Napolitano.</p>
<p>If anyone wants to read the actual complaint filed in court, <a href="http://www.sbdnews.com/Portals/0/ccr.pdf" rel="nofollow">here is the link</a>.</p>
<p>Also, I found something interesting that could show that this is a PR stunt.  According to the documents on Lexis, the Center for Constitutional Rights files an ERRONEOUS ENTRY back in July 2004 when they filed as a foreign corporation in New York.  I am sure they figured out a way to fix  it, but it does look suspicious.  You can see it <a href="http://www.sbdnews.com/Portals/0/ccrinc.pdf" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p>SBD</p>
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		<title>By: ReidBlog</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;What Gore said&lt;/strong&gt;

If the President has the inherent authority to eavesdrop, imprison citizens on his own declaration, kidnap and torture, then what canÂ’t he do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>What Gore said</strong></p>
<p>If the President has the inherent authority to eavesdrop, imprison citizens on his own declaration, kidnap and torture, then what canÂ’t he do?</p>
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		<title>By: Snapple</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snapple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bigdog---

Thanks for the peptalk.  

I wish that these journalists would go undercover and investigate the terrorists instead of the government. Then they might get it. I think that Richard Pearl was a real hero. He tried to find out about the terrorists.

If you have some brushes with  radicals, as I have, you will see that they want to scare you into silence with threats --or worse. In some ways that is scarier than just killing people. 

Some terrorist in this country are doing bad things and playing cat-and-mouse with the government. And this ACLU is helping the terrorists. They are helping the killers and opressors use our system in order to undermine it.

I want Bush to spy on terrorists in this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bigdog&#8212;</p>
<p>Thanks for the peptalk.  </p>
<p>I wish that these journalists would go undercover and investigate the terrorists instead of the government. Then they might get it. I think that Richard Pearl was a real hero. He tried to find out about the terrorists.</p>
<p>If you have some brushes with  radicals, as I have, you will see that they want to scare you into silence with threats &#8211;or worse. In some ways that is scarier than just killing people. </p>
<p>Some terrorist in this country are doing bad things and playing cat-and-mouse with the government. And this ACLU is helping the terrorists. They are helping the killers and opressors use our system in order to undermine it.</p>
<p>I want Bush to spy on terrorists in this country.</p>
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		<title>By: tzuzelo1</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is ridiculous that they would even attempt to make an argument in court with no proof and no person to show the court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is ridiculous that they would even attempt to make an argument in court with no proof and no person to show the court.</p>
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		<title>By: BIGDOG</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Snapple they tried this crap in 2002 and got shut down.

Snapple....I really believe that this is a smear campaign to gain poll numbers.  Democrats have to use polls to gain confidence in their rhetoric. Just identify their rhetoric and watch and see when the next poll comes out, see if its not to a certian party talking point. Most of their polls actually give them talking points. When in reality the American people understand why Bush is doing warrantless foriegn surveillences, 33 he signed off on, correct?. The one concern i have, is how many Americans are not seeking the trueth for themselves, thru various outlets and/or reading FISA itself. Instead they buy into the lies the MSM is selling, but i see a huge signal to the MSM in question, the drop in readers and ratings, hence certian news agencies are loosing employees and restructuring within. With that in mind, i actually believe the American people understand the smear campaigns and i predict that the 06 elections will show the real hearbeat of America and i foresee a 5% seat swing in the dems loosing seats. BOLD? I know it seems that way, but its only rhetorical strategory on their part.  Say it enough they will believe it scenario, so lets move along because American Idol is on next. However its is the BLOGGERS that are making things right in the MSM smear campaign. I have seen left wing bloggers actually die out over time and i have seen right wing bloggers grow in substantual numbers over the years. This site itself will blow up in numbers in about 6 more months, because of the great minds, kick ass discussions and debates, those on the HILL should be having. The Constitution cries out thru the BLOGGERS and so does our ever-maturing, founding fathers documental preamble......&quot; in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.&quot;

Somehow and its sad, certian parties mouth pieces and  political power trips..... when did they become more important than our preamble and the Constitution that follows?

I dunno man, sorry i rambled. Hang in there man...:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snapple they tried this crap in 2002 and got shut down.</p>
<p>Snapple&#8230;.I really believe that this is a smear campaign to gain poll numbers.  Democrats have to use polls to gain confidence in their rhetoric. Just identify their rhetoric and watch and see when the next poll comes out, see if its not to a certian party talking point. Most of their polls actually give them talking points. When in reality the American people understand why Bush is doing warrantless foriegn surveillences, 33 he signed off on, correct?. The one concern i have, is how many Americans are not seeking the trueth for themselves, thru various outlets and/or reading FISA itself. Instead they buy into the lies the MSM is selling, but i see a huge signal to the MSM in question, the drop in readers and ratings, hence certian news agencies are loosing employees and restructuring within. With that in mind, i actually believe the American people understand the smear campaigns and i predict that the 06 elections will show the real hearbeat of America and i foresee a 5% seat swing in the dems loosing seats. BOLD? I know it seems that way, but its only rhetorical strategory on their part.  Say it enough they will believe it scenario, so lets move along because American Idol is on next. However its is the BLOGGERS that are making things right in the MSM smear campaign. I have seen left wing bloggers actually die out over time and i have seen right wing bloggers grow in substantual numbers over the years. This site itself will blow up in numbers in about 6 more months, because of the great minds, kick ass discussions and debates, those on the HILL should be having. The Constitution cries out thru the BLOGGERS and so does our ever-maturing, founding fathers documental preamble&#8230;&#8230;&#8221; in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.&#8221;</p>
<p>Somehow and its sad, certian parties mouth pieces and  political power trips&#8230;.. when did they become more important than our preamble and the Constitution that follows?</p>
<p>I dunno man, sorry i rambled. Hang in there man&#8230;:)</p>
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		<title>By: Snapple</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snapple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To correct my above post--I read the ACLU were destroying their own records a while ago.  I wondered why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To correct my above post&#8211;I read the ACLU were destroying their own records a while ago.  I wondered why.</p>
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		<title>By: clb72</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently some of your allies disagree.  I hope they&#039;re not concerned about anything like principles at the cost of political power.  That would be just plain silly.

To: National Desk 

Contact: Laura Brinker, 202-715-1540, for Patriots to Restore Checks and Balances, laura.brinker@dittus.com

WASHINGTON, Jan. 17 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Patriots to Restore Checks and Balances (PRCB) today called upon Congress to hold open, substantive oversight hearings examining the President&#039;s authorization of the National Security Agency (NSA) to violate domestic surveillance requirements outlined in the Federal Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). 

Former U.S. Rep. Bob Barr, chairman of PRCB, was joined by fellow conservatives Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform (ATR); David Keene, chairman of the American Conservative Union; Paul Weyrich, chairman and CEO of the Free Congress Foundation and Alan Gottlieb, founder of the Second Amendment Foundation, in urging lawmakers to use NSA hearings to establish a solid foundation for restoring much needed constitutional checks and balances to intelligence law.

&quot;When the Patriot Act was passed shortly after 9-11, the federal government was granted expanded access to Americans&#039; private information,&quot; said Barr. &quot;However, federal law still clearly states that intelligence agents must have a court order to conduct electronic surveillance of Americans on these shores. Yet the federal government overstepped the protections of the Constitution and the plain language of FISA to eavesdrop on Americans&#039; private communication without any judicial checks and without proof that they are involved in terrorism.&quot;

The following can be attributed to PRCB members:

&quot;I believe that our executive branch cannot continue to operate without the checks of the other branches. However, I stand behind the President in encouraging Congress to operate cautiously during the hearings so that sensitive government intelligence is not given to our enemies.&quot; -- Paul Weyrich, chairman and CEO, Free Congress Foundation

&quot;Public hearings on this issue are essential to addressing the serious concerns raised by alarming revelations of NSA electronic eavesdropping.&quot; -- Grover Norquist, president, Americans for Tax Reform

&quot;The need to reform surveillance laws and practices adopted since 9/11 is more apparent now than ever. No one would deny the government the power it needs to protect us all, but when that power poses a threat to the basic rights that make our nation unique, its exercise must be carefully monitored by Congress and the courts. This is not a partisan issue; it is an issue of safeguarding the fundamental freedoms of all Americans so that future administrations do not interpret our laws in ways that pose constitutional concerns.&quot; -- David Keene, chairman, American Conservative Union

&quot;If the law is not reformed, ordinary Americans&#039; personal information could be swept into all-encompassing federal databases encroaching upon every aspect of their private lives. This is of particular concern to gun owners, whose rights guaranteed under the Second Amendment are currently being infringed upon under the Patriot Act&#039;s controversial record search provisions.&quot; -- Alan Gottlieb, founder, Second Amendment Foundation

Patriots to Restore Checks and Balances is an organization dedicated to protecting Americans&#039; fundamental freedoms guaranteed by the Fourth Amendment and ensuring that all provisions of the Patriot Act are in line with the Constitution. For more information, visit the Web site at http://www.checksbalances.org.

http://www.usnewswire.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently some of your allies disagree.  I hope they&#8217;re not concerned about anything like principles at the cost of political power.  That would be just plain silly.</p>
<p>To: National Desk </p>
<p>Contact: Laura Brinker, 202-715-1540, for Patriots to Restore Checks and Balances, <a href="mailto:laura.brinker@dittus.com">laura.brinker@dittus.com</a></p>
<p>WASHINGTON, Jan. 17 /U.S. Newswire/ &#8212; Patriots to Restore Checks and Balances (PRCB) today called upon Congress to hold open, substantive oversight hearings examining the President&#8217;s authorization of the National Security Agency (NSA) to violate domestic surveillance requirements outlined in the Federal Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). </p>
<p>Former U.S. Rep. Bob Barr, chairman of PRCB, was joined by fellow conservatives Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform (ATR); David Keene, chairman of the American Conservative Union; Paul Weyrich, chairman and CEO of the Free Congress Foundation and Alan Gottlieb, founder of the Second Amendment Foundation, in urging lawmakers to use NSA hearings to establish a solid foundation for restoring much needed constitutional checks and balances to intelligence law.</p>
<p>&#8220;When the Patriot Act was passed shortly after 9-11, the federal government was granted expanded access to Americans&#8217; private information,&#8221; said Barr. &#8220;However, federal law still clearly states that intelligence agents must have a court order to conduct electronic surveillance of Americans on these shores. Yet the federal government overstepped the protections of the Constitution and the plain language of FISA to eavesdrop on Americans&#8217; private communication without any judicial checks and without proof that they are involved in terrorism.&#8221;</p>
<p>The following can be attributed to PRCB members:</p>
<p>&#8220;I believe that our executive branch cannot continue to operate without the checks of the other branches. However, I stand behind the President in encouraging Congress to operate cautiously during the hearings so that sensitive government intelligence is not given to our enemies.&#8221; &#8212; Paul Weyrich, chairman and CEO, Free Congress Foundation</p>
<p>&#8220;Public hearings on this issue are essential to addressing the serious concerns raised by alarming revelations of NSA electronic eavesdropping.&#8221; &#8212; Grover Norquist, president, Americans for Tax Reform</p>
<p>&#8220;The need to reform surveillance laws and practices adopted since 9/11 is more apparent now than ever. No one would deny the government the power it needs to protect us all, but when that power poses a threat to the basic rights that make our nation unique, its exercise must be carefully monitored by Congress and the courts. This is not a partisan issue; it is an issue of safeguarding the fundamental freedoms of all Americans so that future administrations do not interpret our laws in ways that pose constitutional concerns.&#8221; &#8212; David Keene, chairman, American Conservative Union</p>
<p>&#8220;If the law is not reformed, ordinary Americans&#8217; personal information could be swept into all-encompassing federal databases encroaching upon every aspect of their private lives. This is of particular concern to gun owners, whose rights guaranteed under the Second Amendment are currently being infringed upon under the Patriot Act&#8217;s controversial record search provisions.&#8221; &#8212; Alan Gottlieb, founder, Second Amendment Foundation</p>
<p>Patriots to Restore Checks and Balances is an organization dedicated to protecting Americans&#8217; fundamental freedoms guaranteed by the Fourth Amendment and ensuring that all provisions of the Patriot Act are in line with the Constitution. For more information, visit the Web site at <a href="http://www.checksbalances.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.checksbalances.org</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.usnewswire.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.usnewswire.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Snapple</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am glad you are so sure that this will not amount to anything. 

 I think this is a very scary development.
I really hate the ACLU. I read they were Thanks for posting about this. I heard it on the news and plan to read everything you have about this topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad you are so sure that this will not amount to anything. </p>
<p> I think this is a very scary development.<br />
I really hate the ACLU. I read they were Thanks for posting about this. I heard it on the news and plan to read everything you have about this topic.</p>
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		<title>By: Stop The ACLU &#187; Blog Archive &#187; ACLU Lawsuit Against NSA Is Weak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stop The ACLU &#187; Blog Archive &#187; ACLU Lawsuit Against NSA Is Weak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Another hat tip to AJ Strata [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Stop The ACLU</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stop The ACLU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;ACLU Lawsuit Against NSA Is Weak&lt;/strong&gt;

	Another hat tip to AJ Strata
	Certainly folks that knowingly correspond with known and suspected terrorists should know they are taking a risk, and that such treasonous actions comes with consequence.  It is obvious that the ACLU&#8217;s case is weak....</description>
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<p>	Another hat tip to AJ Strata<br />
	Certainly folks that knowingly correspond with known and suspected terrorists should know they are taking a risk, and that such treasonous actions comes with consequence.  It is obvious that the ACLU&#8217;s case is weak&#8230;.</p>
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