Jan 06 2010
Independents Have All But Abandoned The Democrats
Rasmussen has a very important and telling poll out today on support for the two national parties. In what has to be a shocking turn around, Dems now trail the GOP in the generic congressional ballot by 9%! For me, though, is the message being sent by independents:
Among all voters not affiliated with either party, the GOP leads 48% to 17%.
By almost 3 to 1, independents have abandoned the Democrats. We will see what this means on January 19th in the MA special election to fill Ted Kennedy’s seat – but whatever the outcome the message is loud and clear. And aimed at both parties.
America is fed up with the fringes. The far right is foolish to think they have rehabilitated themselves in the eyes of the country which dumped them from power in 2006 and 2008. The only reason Independents are moving is the liberal fringe went farther, faster than the far right tried to go.
The Tea Party movement is not a right wing movement, it is revolt across the left of center to right side of the spectrum. The winning candidates so far have all been center right candidates. I expect to see this trend continue. The independents and centrists decide who wins, and we can keep cleaning clocks until the message gets through.
I voted for Romney in the primary, and I used McCain in my post as a symbol for the misguided RINOs that created this very bad situation and which you promote.
By the way, I am smack in the middle of the political spectrum.
I know that because I administered myself repeateadly a variety of political “tests”, so, please do not even think about using the “extremist” label on me.
See Dbostan, you keep up with the childish insults about centrists – proving you are not ready to understand squat about politics. You’re not an extremists, you’re immature and irrelevant.
No political movement can or will survive by insulting the broad center of America. Doh
Yep.
Promoting amnesty and illegal immigration is a sign of “maturity and relevancy”.
LOL….
Just to remind you that 85% of the population is opposed to both amnesty and illegals.
Not talking about your another sign of “maturity and relevancy”:
your support of LGF’s Charles Johnson.
By the way, I think, or at least I hope, that you came to regret your support for him, but you just did not have the strength to say it…..
dbosan, I disagree as an adult and an American who has a right to my point of view. Try it sometime and maybe some would care what you think!
And yes, Johnson has a right to his views to and I will always respect that right.
Wow. I was at work and missed all the blood letting.
A.J. I respect your opinion and views and have not really seen anything where we significantly disagree, so maybe the mismatch is over the definition of centrist.
I specifically dislike those in the political spectrum who will go along to get along and compromise because they believe it is better to get “something done” even if that something is horrible. In this regard John McCain (from my home state of AZ) and Lindsay Graham come to mind. Too often they want to be the friendly Senator who reaches out to the other side and will sell out their principles to get something done. Conversely Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins don’t bug me too much because they’re pretty consistent in who they are.
So if a centrist is someone who will listen to everyone and weigh those views against their core principles to arrive at a position – well, I’m OK with that. If a centrist is someone who has no core principles and goes along with what they think is the popular choice at any given time – well, I’ll be all over that person.
Someone once said the difference between Democrats and Republicans is that if the Dems retain power we’ll be a socialist country by 2020. If the Republicans retain power we’ll be a socialist country by 2040. I don’t like either option and want politicians to embrace freedom and opportunity while getting government out of the way and off the backs of the producers who make this country great. If that makes me an extremist, so be it.
Sure everybody, including CJ, has a right to an opinion, but, that doesn’t mean that opinion is factual correct, or moral.
I did not dispute that right, I disputed his ratsy, unethical behaviour over the last three, four years.
I do not think a wise person would associate himself with such a person.
Also I never disputed your right to post your opinion, especially on your own blog. I just expressed my opinion, to which I hope I am entitled to, that your position is wrong and not good for the repubic party (and country, because we should not expect anything good from the demshevik party).
That’s all.
Dbostan – we are done
Layman – do you think I have core principles or not? Like I said, not believing in the far right blather does not make one hesitant of wishey washy. I will debate with anyone.
AJ:
I’ve been following your blog for about three months now and I really like what I see. You seem to look at things through the prism of common sense and conservative values and I like that. You also debate on facts and analysis rather then emotions. Hence I thought that you and I were cut from the same cloth, so to speak.
I did read one or two things that through me for a loop, especially your espousal of “centrists” and centrist values. This lead me to believe that either one or both of us is a bit nuts, or I simply have a different definition than you. So I thought I was being pretty clear, asking for clarification of what you mean by centrist. I even tossed out a couple strawmen for you to pick at or agree with or turn on end. I’m still not 100% sure. I was not attacking you or arguing with you. I was trying to find clarity.
After reading your “discussion” with Dbostan I take it that you are a conservative (maybe even a “right winger”) but not someone who is so caught up in the dogma that everyone who disgrees must be pilloried, called names, and excommunicated from the community. If that interpretation is correct please confirm it. If its close but not quite right please correct it. If I don’t get it at all, please set me straight.
I suspect that what I call conservative-right and you call conservative-centrist is pretty much the same thing.
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