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		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 14:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tbcshultz,

that means WaPo pulled the article.  The best I can do is suggest you peruse &lt;a href=&quot;http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/category/uncategorized/stem-cell-debate&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;all my stem cell articles&lt;/a&gt; for other related links and snippets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tbcshultz,</p>
<p>that means WaPo pulled the article.  The best I can do is suggest you peruse <a href="http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/category/uncategorized/stem-cell-debate" rel="nofollow">all my stem cell articles</a> for other related links and snippets.</p>
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		<title>By: tbcschultz</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 03:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to note it here - the hotlink in article referring to embryonic stem cell research goes to WP Admin side?  Would really like to read.  I&#039;m relatively new to the board.  Absolutely fascinating stuff for the rest!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to note it here &#8211; the hotlink in article referring to embryonic stem cell research goes to WP Admin side?  Would really like to read.  I&#8217;m relatively new to the board.  Absolutely fascinating stuff for the rest!</p>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention The Strata-Sphere Â» The End Of The Global Warming Madness -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention The Strata-Sphere Â» The End Of The Global Warming Madness -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Ron the Cop and EarthAdapt, AJ Strata. AJ Strata said: new: The End Of The Global Warming Madness http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/12599 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Potpourri &#171; Politicaljunkie Mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Potpourri &#171; Politicaljunkie Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 17:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Strata has worthy read up,Â &#8221;The End Of The Global Warming Madness.&#8221;Â  Highlights: I want to lead this post off with a reminder of two key events on the global [...]</description>
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		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 16:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silverstar42,

My view is the house of cards is collapsing. It is one thing to have a weak theory which people buy into. It is another to peddle junk science and be scorned. Scorn alone will end the madness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silverstar42,</p>
<p>My view is the house of cards is collapsing. It is one thing to have a weak theory which people buy into. It is another to peddle junk science and be scorned. Scorn alone will end the madness.</p>
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		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 16:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sliverstar4,

Thanks for all the kind words an my apologies for not releasing your comment sooner. You can comment freely now, the filter only holds up comments with 2 of more links and some banned words.

Cheers, AJStrata</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sliverstar4,</p>
<p>Thanks for all the kind words an my apologies for not releasing your comment sooner. You can comment freely now, the filter only holds up comments with 2 of more links and some banned words.</p>
<p>Cheers, AJStrata</p>
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		<title>By: Flint</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 10:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is method to their madness.  If you want to know what they&#039;re really up to, check out the Green for All site associated with Van Jones.  Recruiting cadres of &quot;court-involved youth&quot; and such, showing them to use calk guns, and setting them to &quot;weatherizing&quot; the &quot;inner city&quot;--that&#039;s what we&#039;re really talking about--a crude reparations scheme under color of &quot;green energy.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is method to their madness.  If you want to know what they&#8217;re really up to, check out the Green for All site associated with Van Jones.  Recruiting cadres of &#8220;court-involved youth&#8221; and such, showing them to use calk guns, and setting them to &#8220;weatherizing&#8221; the &#8220;inner city&#8221;&#8211;that&#8217;s what we&#8217;re really talking about&#8211;a crude reparations scheme under color of &#8220;green energy.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: silverstar42</title>
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		<dc:creator>silverstar42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 21:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great work AJ. I would like to join the ranks of those that have expressed apprecitation for all the work you have done collecting, reading and parsing all the emails, code and other data that show what a fraud the AGW &quot;true believers&quot; have been pushing.

But I am concerned about what happens now. Despite the daily disclosures of more and more fraud and the loss of scientific credibility of AGW, I am concerned that those whose interests were and would be served by AGW theories will try to ignore the fraud and push on to enact Cap-and-Trade (CAT) regulations however and to whatever extent they can. 

In my view, the AGW purveyors have created so much momentum and shared &quot;interest&quot; in the adoption of their theories that many people will not easily give up the passage or implementation of CAT legislation. To wit: many scientists and universities have compromised the scientific method and scientific integrity to participate in the enormous streams of grant money; many third world leaders see CAT as a way to get the developed world to pay them hundreds of billions of US Dollars per year; many environmentalists have bought into AGW with a religious fervor as necessary to save or preserve the planet or to fund their continuing eco efforts; companies have seen AGW as a way to get government payments; bankers and traders are salivating over the revenues to be earned by trading carbon credits; and most of all, the &quot;progressive&quot; politicians in Washington and elsewhere see CAT as a &quot;ready-made&quot; and environmentally justifiable mechanism to get more control over business and to create an enormous stream of tax revenues (ultimately reaching as much as $9 trillion per year) to fund their social schemes and dreams.

Ironically, it&#039;s the leadership of China, India and other large developing countries who are resisting, often for the seemingly legitimate reason that they don&#039;t want their societies locked into a pre-industrial stage of development; but in the case of China and India because they haven&#039;t been afraid to proclaim &quot;that the AGW Emperor Has No (Scientific) Clothes.&quot;  

But sadly such resistance can at times be overcome, again by money--just look at what the AGW movement did to Russia and Japan after they initially said they thought the science was bogus and that they wouldn&#039;t participate.  They were induced to participate by special credits and deals, just as the pharmaceutical companies, insurance companies, AMA, AARP, Senators, Congressmen and others were &quot;bribed&quot; by special deals in the recent US government efforts to win support for their HealthCare reform plans.

I apologize for the long-winded vent, but I hope it helps to explain my concern that the AGW proponents will simply try to let this storm blow over and then return to their efforts to pass CAT. Just look at Obama&#039;s comment in his State of the Union Speech. 

And even thought Senate may have thought it had killed Kyoto when it voted 95 to zero to tell the Clinton administration not to submit the Kyoto treaty for ratification in 1998, it appears in hindsight that they failed. So, I believe that the proponents of AGW will never give up as long as AGW can be argued to be true.

And now we have a President that is so determined to foist CAT on the US that he has directed the CIA to do research on AGW. So, if the skeptics have had trouble getting access to data, emails and code in the past, and get true peer review of AGW work and conclusions; what do you think it will be like if all the research is hidden behind national security barriers and Congressional closed doors in the future.

Drawing on the failure to kill Kyoto, the determination of the Obama administration, and the new CIA involvement, it seems to me that it will not be sufficient to show that the work of the AGW crowd at CRU, NASA, etc. was fraudulent.  Because, unless AGW is demonstrated to be patently FALSE and/or highly unlikely, it will be possible for the &quot;go along to get along&quot; crowd to say that the skeptics represent a minority view and that AGW evidence is conclusive--just as Obama did in his SOTU speech and my Congressman did in response to my letters.

So, my question is: Can you share will us your knowledge of what efforts are underway for the scientific community, the leading Climatology universities, the Senate, think tanks, and other respected institutions to convene symposia and/or to sponsor work that will definitively demonstrate that AGW is a fraud and a hoax being advanced mostly to serve the interests of those who try to push these bogus theories?

BTW, thanks again for all your work, for sharing it on the web, and for giving us the opportunity to comment and ask questions.

silverstar42</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great work AJ. I would like to join the ranks of those that have expressed apprecitation for all the work you have done collecting, reading and parsing all the emails, code and other data that show what a fraud the AGW &#8220;true believers&#8221; have been pushing.</p>
<p>But I am concerned about what happens now. Despite the daily disclosures of more and more fraud and the loss of scientific credibility of AGW, I am concerned that those whose interests were and would be served by AGW theories will try to ignore the fraud and push on to enact Cap-and-Trade (CAT) regulations however and to whatever extent they can. </p>
<p>In my view, the AGW purveyors have created so much momentum and shared &#8220;interest&#8221; in the adoption of their theories that many people will not easily give up the passage or implementation of CAT legislation. To wit: many scientists and universities have compromised the scientific method and scientific integrity to participate in the enormous streams of grant money; many third world leaders see CAT as a way to get the developed world to pay them hundreds of billions of US Dollars per year; many environmentalists have bought into AGW with a religious fervor as necessary to save or preserve the planet or to fund their continuing eco efforts; companies have seen AGW as a way to get government payments; bankers and traders are salivating over the revenues to be earned by trading carbon credits; and most of all, the &#8220;progressive&#8221; politicians in Washington and elsewhere see CAT as a &#8220;ready-made&#8221; and environmentally justifiable mechanism to get more control over business and to create an enormous stream of tax revenues (ultimately reaching as much as $9 trillion per year) to fund their social schemes and dreams.</p>
<p>Ironically, it&#8217;s the leadership of China, India and other large developing countries who are resisting, often for the seemingly legitimate reason that they don&#8217;t want their societies locked into a pre-industrial stage of development; but in the case of China and India because they haven&#8217;t been afraid to proclaim &#8220;that the AGW Emperor Has No (Scientific) Clothes.&#8221;  </p>
<p>But sadly such resistance can at times be overcome, again by money&#8211;just look at what the AGW movement did to Russia and Japan after they initially said they thought the science was bogus and that they wouldn&#8217;t participate.  They were induced to participate by special credits and deals, just as the pharmaceutical companies, insurance companies, AMA, AARP, Senators, Congressmen and others were &#8220;bribed&#8221; by special deals in the recent US government efforts to win support for their HealthCare reform plans.</p>
<p>I apologize for the long-winded vent, but I hope it helps to explain my concern that the AGW proponents will simply try to let this storm blow over and then return to their efforts to pass CAT. Just look at Obama&#8217;s comment in his State of the Union Speech. </p>
<p>And even thought Senate may have thought it had killed Kyoto when it voted 95 to zero to tell the Clinton administration not to submit the Kyoto treaty for ratification in 1998, it appears in hindsight that they failed. So, I believe that the proponents of AGW will never give up as long as AGW can be argued to be true.</p>
<p>And now we have a President that is so determined to foist CAT on the US that he has directed the CIA to do research on AGW. So, if the skeptics have had trouble getting access to data, emails and code in the past, and get true peer review of AGW work and conclusions; what do you think it will be like if all the research is hidden behind national security barriers and Congressional closed doors in the future.</p>
<p>Drawing on the failure to kill Kyoto, the determination of the Obama administration, and the new CIA involvement, it seems to me that it will not be sufficient to show that the work of the AGW crowd at CRU, NASA, etc. was fraudulent.  Because, unless AGW is demonstrated to be patently FALSE and/or highly unlikely, it will be possible for the &#8220;go along to get along&#8221; crowd to say that the skeptics represent a minority view and that AGW evidence is conclusive&#8211;just as Obama did in his SOTU speech and my Congressman did in response to my letters.</p>
<p>So, my question is: Can you share will us your knowledge of what efforts are underway for the scientific community, the leading Climatology universities, the Senate, think tanks, and other respected institutions to convene symposia and/or to sponsor work that will definitively demonstrate that AGW is a fraud and a hoax being advanced mostly to serve the interests of those who try to push these bogus theories?</p>
<p>BTW, thanks again for all your work, for sharing it on the web, and for giving us the opportunity to comment and ask questions.</p>
<p>silverstar42</p>
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		<title>By: All American Blogger &#187; Weekend Link Love: Ted Nugent Edition</title>
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		<dc:creator>All American Blogger &#187; Weekend Link Love: Ted Nugent Edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 13:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hot Air: RNC adopts watered-down â€œpurity testâ€ for Republican candidates    Gateway Pundit: Killer Iranian Regime Executes Two Democracy Protesters     Noisy Room: Chavez â€“ A Brutal Marxist Tyrant    Senatus: Snowe Talking to Democrats About Way Forward on Health Reform  The Strata-Sphere: The End Of The Global Warming Madness [...]</description>
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		<title>By: mandolinjon</title>
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		<dc:creator>mandolinjon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 12:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I like your system of logging in.  
I applaud your efforts on the BLOG and others to present the scientific truth. Early on it seemed to me that the temperature correlations with CO2 concentrations were wrong. However I did not sit down as you have done to demonstrate that the temperature changes due to CO2 are too small to ever be detected with the data being collected around the world. My sense of this is true comes from the daily weather reports that project high and low temperatures one or two days in advance given a satellite picture of the weather systems moving into an area a few 100 km wide. I live in New Mexico for example and the temperatures vary as much as 50 degrees F from dawn to sunset. Across the state the estimated highs and lows vary by 30 degrees F depending upon elevation and urban location. However, the weather, not the temperature, can be projected several days in advance here because the wind currents and cloud changes are able to be projected as the weather system moves west to east. Even so, the weather is local. I have concluded that temperature is part of weather and weather over a long term (many years) is climate. But temperature doesnâ€™t predict weather change so how can temperature predict climate change? It canâ€™t. Temperature is not a reliable way of predicting climate because of the reasons you have stated and because the attributes of climate or weather are not measured with temperature. Climate change is measured on a scale much longer that a few years. The Little Ice Age was a different climate for many years in Western Europe. Events that supported the climate change have been recorded.  
One last thought, the weather on the planet is not some average weather. Detecting a change in climate would entail monitoring all of the attributes of climate over a period to 100 years or more. Where is the data?  The only data that exists is temperature over a hundred years. As far as I know, there were only a few weather stations operating. It is like the man who lost his keys in a dark alley but is looking for them under a street light because he can see there. The IPCC took the position that all they needed to do was show that the temperature was increasing to make their case for global warming because the only data they had was temperature and CO2 concentration. They totally ignored the other possible mechanism that could affect the climate and the data supporting them, ie, solar activity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I like your system of logging in.<br />
I applaud your efforts on the BLOG and others to present the scientific truth. Early on it seemed to me that the temperature correlations with CO2 concentrations were wrong. However I did not sit down as you have done to demonstrate that the temperature changes due to CO2 are too small to ever be detected with the data being collected around the world. My sense of this is true comes from the daily weather reports that project high and low temperatures one or two days in advance given a satellite picture of the weather systems moving into an area a few 100 km wide. I live in New Mexico for example and the temperatures vary as much as 50 degrees F from dawn to sunset. Across the state the estimated highs and lows vary by 30 degrees F depending upon elevation and urban location. However, the weather, not the temperature, can be projected several days in advance here because the wind currents and cloud changes are able to be projected as the weather system moves west to east. Even so, the weather is local. I have concluded that temperature is part of weather and weather over a long term (many years) is climate. But temperature doesnâ€™t predict weather change so how can temperature predict climate change? It canâ€™t. Temperature is not a reliable way of predicting climate because of the reasons you have stated and because the attributes of climate or weather are not measured with temperature. Climate change is measured on a scale much longer that a few years. The Little Ice Age was a different climate for many years in Western Europe. Events that supported the climate change have been recorded.<br />
One last thought, the weather on the planet is not some average weather. Detecting a change in climate would entail monitoring all of the attributes of climate over a period to 100 years or more. Where is the data?  The only data that exists is temperature over a hundred years. As far as I know, there were only a few weather stations operating. It is like the man who lost his keys in a dark alley but is looking for them under a street light because he can see there. The IPCC took the position that all they needed to do was show that the temperature was increasing to make their case for global warming because the only data they had was temperature and CO2 concentration. They totally ignored the other possible mechanism that could affect the climate and the data supporting them, ie, solar activity.</p>
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		<title>By: Climategate2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>Climategate2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 05:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello AJ, 

Stellar analysis, as always. The wheels are clearly coming off of the AGW alarmist&#039;s wagon.

Here is an article: The Corruption of science

http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2010/01/corruption-of-science.html

About AmazonGate, by the blogger who uncovered Dr RK Pachauri&#039;s breathtaking conflicts of interest. He will be releasing another crushing piece in The Sunday Times that Pachauri will find difficult to recover from. 

And a funny video I did about Obama&#039;s great pun at the SOTU. They AGW crowd is certainly in the hear no evil mode.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOmeKr5J-do

Bunch more GlacierGate and PachauriGate videos on my channel. 

Keep up the good work. Always a pleasure to read your work.

CG2009</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello AJ, </p>
<p>Stellar analysis, as always. The wheels are clearly coming off of the AGW alarmist&#8217;s wagon.</p>
<p>Here is an article: The Corruption of science</p>
<p><a href="http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2010/01/corruption-of-science.html" rel="nofollow">http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2010/01/corruption-of-science.html</a></p>
<p>About AmazonGate, by the blogger who uncovered Dr RK Pachauri&#8217;s breathtaking conflicts of interest. He will be releasing another crushing piece in The Sunday Times that Pachauri will find difficult to recover from. </p>
<p>And a funny video I did about Obama&#8217;s great pun at the SOTU. They AGW crowd is certainly in the hear no evil mode.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOmeKr5J-do" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOmeKr5J-do</a></p>
<p>Bunch more GlacierGate and PachauriGate videos on my channel. </p>
<p>Keep up the good work. Always a pleasure to read your work.</p>
<p>CG2009</p>
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		<title>By: kathie</title>
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		<dc:creator>kathie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 01:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way AJ.....great work, and thank you. Kathie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way AJ&#8230;..great work, and thank you. Kathie</p>
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		<title>By: kathie</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 01:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our leaders can&#039;t possibly think that the answer to the future of mankind is to run our energy needs on windmills and/or solar panels. It is an idea as crazy as thinking that the planet is over heating. I think that we have a generation of people born after World War II who felt that unlike the Greatest Generation they were bereft of a cause, so they invented one, &quot;global warming&quot;, a get rich quick idea. I would almost feel sorry for these blow hards, but they have caused billions and billions of dollars to be spent that could have  other wise saved lives or enhanced the quality of millions of peoples lives. 

Obama really believes that we are going to be world leaders building windmills? I grew up thinking the Dutch windmills were so  pretty, and that was 67 years ago. It is a totally crazy idea! Next someone is going to suggest the horse and buggy is a excellent form of transportation. Who ever can replace oil as the engine of growth will be the leaders, my guess is that it will be someone in the United States, and it won&#039;t happen for 20 years on a large enough scale, so we had better keep doing what have been doing until the future is more certain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our leaders can&#8217;t possibly think that the answer to the future of mankind is to run our energy needs on windmills and/or solar panels. It is an idea as crazy as thinking that the planet is over heating. I think that we have a generation of people born after World War II who felt that unlike the Greatest Generation they were bereft of a cause, so they invented one, &#8220;global warming&#8221;, a get rich quick idea. I would almost feel sorry for these blow hards, but they have caused billions and billions of dollars to be spent that could have  other wise saved lives or enhanced the quality of millions of peoples lives. </p>
<p>Obama really believes that we are going to be world leaders building windmills? I grew up thinking the Dutch windmills were so  pretty, and that was 67 years ago. It is a totally crazy idea! Next someone is going to suggest the horse and buggy is a excellent form of transportation. Who ever can replace oil as the engine of growth will be the leaders, my guess is that it will be someone in the United States, and it won&#8217;t happen for 20 years on a large enough scale, so we had better keep doing what have been doing until the future is more certain.</p>
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		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 01:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JimC146,

johnson is not a happy camper. Whatever set him off went deep. He politely tolerates me commenting on his blog and I try not to poke him were he doesn&#039;t want to be poked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JimC146,</p>
<p>johnson is not a happy camper. Whatever set him off went deep. He politely tolerates me commenting on his blog and I try not to poke him were he doesn&#8217;t want to be poked.</p>
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		<title>By: JimC146</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimC146</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 01:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ, just curious if you have any communications with Charles Johnson from LGF. He seems to be #1 AGW cheerleader now and no matter what the facts or logic you present, he will not be convinced otherwise.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/tag/Climate+Change

In fact he would consider you a right wing nutjob based solely on your climate change denial-ism...

&quot;4. Support for anti-science bad craziness (see: creationism, climate change denialism, Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, James Inhofe, etc.)&quot;

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/35243_Why_I_Parted_Ways_With_The_Right</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ, just curious if you have any communications with Charles Johnson from LGF. He seems to be #1 AGW cheerleader now and no matter what the facts or logic you present, he will not be convinced otherwise.</p>
<p><a href="http://littlegreenfootballs.com/tag/Climate+Change" rel="nofollow">http://littlegreenfootballs.com/tag/Climate+Change</a></p>
<p>In fact he would consider you a right wing nutjob based solely on your climate change denial-ism&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;4. Support for anti-science bad craziness (see: creationism, climate change denialism, Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, James Inhofe, etc.)&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/35243_Why_I_Parted_Ways_With_The_Right" rel="nofollow">http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/35243_Why_I_Parted_Ways_With_The_Right</a></p>
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