Tancredo actually said Thank God McCain lost the election. That was enough for me to say he is over the top. But you are right, the Tea Party movement, is a movement, not a party. Lots of people with different concerns coming together to voice their anger at government spending and growth.

Tancredo made a point of saying that he not only wanted to stop illegal immigration, he wanted to call a halt to immigration period. I remember hearing him say that at a debate in the Republican primaries, he was the only Republican who went that far.

Reagan actually signed an honest to God amnesty bill. And Conservatives do not doubt he was a conservative. Sarah Palin supported a path to citizenship as well and somehow or other conservatives have no problem supporting her.

The problem that people like Tancredo created was that they simply allowed for no debate. They laid the ground rules, agree with them or be a traitor. Plain and simple. And most people do not really go that far, after all, the American people voted for Barack Obama and he is to the left of AJ on immigration reform. It did not bother people enough to make them support Tancredo in the primary much less the national election.

People do want the borders secure, but most people do not want law enforcement chasing down roofers and nannies and fruit pickers. I do think the recession has made a difference however, because a lot of these people have decided not to come here after all.

Wow AJ – talk about “condescending arrogance.”

You put Tancedo down by linking to an opinion piece written by a left wing hack in the Washington Post and we’re supposed to be in agreement. I don’t know everything Tancredo has ever said but I do know that out here in Arizona illegal immigration is a huge problem, costing we the taxpayers millions of dollars a year that we can’t afford. It is (yes, really) a huge problem which is why it is a big issue. When I’ve heard Tancredo in the past he has advocated that we control our borders and stop providing incentives for people to break our laws and come here illegally. Does that make him a “nativist?

I guess that makes my wife, who teaches third grade a nativist because she complains that she can’t spend enough time with her kids teaching them becaues she has to remediate the 1/3 of her class that barely speaks english.

I guess that I am too because while I celebrate diversity I don’t see it as “a constant threat” but rather I’m sick of having political correctness hit me over the head everytime I dare to speak out against a protected class.

You claim to be sick of all the fringes calling others names and not listening and then you proceed to do the same. Take a break, take a deep breath, and calm dowm. You do too much good work to get caught up in the same mudslinging that you so despise.

This is still a “movement”, not a party.

Just look at the bumpy landscape that this weekend created. We had (former) Rep. Tom Tancredo’s speech that went into (paraphase) “can’t spell vote or say it”. Also, a taste of the “Birther” thing and Andrew Breitbart with the “press sucks” stuff. None of this gives any “warm and fuzzy” feelings to many who want fiscal responsibility in DC, which I thought was the focus of “Tea Parties”.

These “little issues” do nothing except to push people away, but at the same time I’ve seen a number of “thin skinned” folks who preach about inclusiveness one day and stomp off after one of these “little issues” come up.

The “Tea Party” movement shouldn’t be thought of as a banner of aparty, but rather a rallying call for a philosphy.

If the ‘fringe’ of conservative thought is also centrists that should tell you something about the perch you are sitting on.

Doh!

Glenn Reynolds: Nashville Shows Tea Party Is America’s Third Great Awakening

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columns/OpEd-Contributor/Glenn-Reynolds-Tea-Party-Nashville-was-Americas-Third-Great-Awakening–83762647.html#ixzz0evdNX1Hg

The present state of affairs is intolerable. We should be bringing in the most educated, not the least. Even the most hardened “progresso” would stand aghast at the thought of opening our borders to the masses of Asia and Africa. So why have we created a system which creates a preference for those coming from the South? And we know that, once granted citizenship, they will do their utmost to bring their relatives here, many of whom will be additional “dead weight” on the system.

The worst of it is this: even if we knuckle under to the demands being made, the Democrats will simply go through the motions of closing the border. Why would they do otherwise? They feel more affinity for the immigrants than for the rest of us. I suspect you’re going to end up on the wrong side of history on this one, A.J.

What you don’t know staggers the mind. What bubble gum wrapper constitution did you read to say the son of a US woman is not a citizen? Is this because you are an intelligent designer and don’t get the DNA thing with mothers, etc???

Dude, do yourself a favor and stop showing off far right stupidity. Just for a while????

It really is embarrassing.

no citizenship problem. agree.

BHO, Sr British citizen.
natural born citizen? problem, not eligible

but hey, that’s only according to the US Constitution, what does it know.

my belief has always been:

He was born in Hawaii, no citizenship problem – but the birth certificate almost certainly lists him as white (caucasion) since his father was nowhere around and his mother was white.

Obama has never wanted to try to explain how a white boy grew up to be a black man. And remember he grew up in his rich white grandparents house. It’s a pretty good metaphor for the fraud that’s been at the center of his personality since the day he was born.

It’s like the Jon Edwards stuff – it’ll come out once he’s out of office and there’s nothing more to protect.

Glenn Beck cares for Beck. He went after Scott Brown as soon as the man was elected. He said Bush should have been impeached and he said we were better off with Obama than with McCain…he also said Teddy Roosevelt was an imperialist thug for picking on the Spanish…the man is not a conservative, he is at best a libertarian and he is all about making money.