Apr 27 2010
Democrats Jump The Shark On Immigration
The state of Arizona has sent the Democrats off the deep end over immigration, just like the Amnesty Hypochondriacs sent the GOP over the edge in 2006 and 2008. Each party has extremists who push too far and exaggerate to the point the middle of America gets completely fed up with the problem of illegal immigrants vs guest workers. On one extreme the far right wants all the illegals punished well beyond what is reasonable for a misdemeanor for not having proper paperwork and paying taxes. On the other, the far left want to treat immigrants as full citizens above the law and able to drain our resources.
In the middle is … well, is the middle of America. Arizona’s law to assess whether someone is legally in this country is not what some decry it to be:
A Colorado Democrat says Arizona is on its way to becoming a “police state†and its new immigration law is “reminiscent†of Nazi Germany.
“It is absolutely reminiscent of second class status of Jews in Germany prior to World War II when they had to have their papers with them at all times and were subject to routine inspections at the suspicion of being Jewish,†Rep. Jared Polis (D-Colo), who is Jewish, told POLITICO.
Yeah, and making sure my car is inspected, my home improvements are to code and I have paid my taxes must be the trait of a Nazi. Gimme me a break. I am on travel, and therefore I need my ‘papers’ with me. To get on airplanes, check into hotels, access government facilities, rent a car …
This outcry for people who have flaunted the laws of the land is idiotic – and just another reason to boot the Dems out this November. Rasmussen notes the Democrats are fighting a losing battle, and losing what little credibility may still be lurking out there in America:
Arizona Governor Jan Brewer last week signed a new law into effect that authorizes local police to stop and verify the immigration status of anyone they suspect of being an illegal immigrant. A new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey finds that 60% of voters nationwide favor such a law, while 31% are opposed.
2 to 1 against the Dems. That will prove suicidal in the fall elections.
All I can say is we need to deal with immigration and guest workers sanely. It is not ‘amnesty’ to require people to work in the open, pay all back taxes and fines (which is an enormous penalty when your income is being pulled to pay these things over 3-5 years) and stay out of trouble. Yes, we need to protect our borders, and under that evil President Bush we achieved just that. When he left office no illegal caught at the borders was allowed to stay.
Under the comprehensive immigration reform bill, pushed twice during Bush’s second term, illegals had to register and pay their fines and back taxes. But also under that approach guest workers had to have ‘their papers’ with them showing they had abided by the laws. They needed an ID which proved they had been vetted and were given permission to work here (for 3 years at a time, not to exceed 6 years).
Also under that plan there was the strengthening of the ‘one strike you’re outta here’ rule. One violent crime conviction and out you went. This meant deportation was linked to felonies and violent misdemeanors, not lack of paper work or payment of taxes.
Democrats can wail all they want to about Arizona, but the fact we all have to show our papers to get jobs or when pulled over for traffic violations or to get on planes means they are just looking dumber than usual.
The problem in AZ, especially Maricopa County is the abuse. I am tracking a story, trying to line up the interviews. The step-son of one of my mother’s friends was seriously harassed in Phoenix by Sheriff Joe’s people, because he refused to show his immigration papers. He is from NM, speaks English as a second language (as do many of my Hispanic friends). According to the information I currently have, he was arrested, his Hummer confiscated, and the cash he was carrying(after a business deal, with paperwork) confiscated. He refused to provide his immigration papers. He has none. He was born here. I also know other Hispanics (American born) who are being treated like dirt in Phoenix.
The real problem is Maricopa County is out of control and we have very few Republicans and fewer conservatives who will even consider the facts about Joe Arpaio and his reign of terror.
I agree with you on immigration reform – but – when American citizens are treated like dirt because they are Hispanic, we have a very real problem.
SJR
The Pink Flamingo
I saw this piece of Byron York’s and it had some information on this bill. I think a lot of politicians of both parties on a federal level are going to have problems with any state doing this, but the state of Arizona has a right and an obligation to protect it citizens.
The Democrats will try to exploit this, but considering their support for sanctuary cities and other efforts to derail and undermine federal law, they really do not have a leg to stand on.
WWS:
I totally agree.
Regarding birthers…the problem is the foreign influence on Obama’s life rather than his birth certificate.
“teh mantison 27 Apr 2010 at 11:22 am”
The Arizona law is not in affect yet. He was detained under federal law. So call your buddies at DHS and call them the Nazi’s.
“lurker9876on 27 Apr 2010 at 6:10 pm”
You have hit the nail on the head.
#1. According to legal experts the Arizona law is carefully crafted to mimmick the federal law…which should be enforced but is not. The Arizona law stands a very good chance of passing legal muster according to these experts.
#2. It is the law that green cards be carried AT ALL TIMES.
The public is in no mood for the hyperventilation of La Raza and big Al, trust me. We have moved WAY past that…And we are definitely not in the mood for politicizing this issue for the sole purpose of trying to stack the voter deck for the future.
Imho, whatever this administration is saying, they are doing the exact opposite.
The extreme right doesn’t want reform either as that is a threat to their cheap labor. This is why nothing has been done by either party—each benefits equally whether it be votes or a ready mob to intimidate or pick lettuce. Meanwhile the majority in the middle has finally started to begin to arise and demand solutions to problems that can be fixed.
Unfortunately fixing problems is not in the best interests of our elected as that would then eliminate our “need” for them. So instead they focus on that which can’t be fixed like say global warming (which is really quite ingenious as it doesn’t even exist to fix—-like boogie man insurance). So they can work on that problem until their pensions kick in and their kids can get elected.
It was also only a matter of time before the left went hyper racial with everything. I am sure we will hear countless stories of how the policia in Arizona are dumping the illegals in the Grand Canyon. Or racial profiling because they have a cute MS13 tattoo. This is a message long overdue and while directed at the scumbags will unfortunately catch some harmless folks who should be making a better life for themselves in their home country rather than letting their politicians screw them and make their lives miserable—viva la revolucion, but back home please.
I’ll be happily spending time and money out there this fall and will never visit Pelosi’s district (unless it is to drop a busload of illegals for her district). Don’t worry about Reverand Al, it is already too hot for him to hang there for very long.
chemman,
sorry for the delay in authorizing your comments. I am at a conference and not able to check pending comments. You should be good to go from here on without my interruptions.
AJStrata
This is an interesting read from “Freerepublic”, though changes the subject.
“China Opens Missile Plant In Iran”
The United States has known about this relationship from the early 1990’s. China is looking for oil and gas, Iran for weapons. Is it any wonder that China and Russia will not allow stronger sanctions on Iran? Of course those in the know also know of the relationship, so why all the time spent talking? I guess Obama had no idea? Or maybe he believed his own lies…….he was smarter then Bush.
60% of the country support AZ’s new immigration law.
70% of Arizonians support the AZ immigration law.
AZ Governor’s approval jumps 16 points after signing the law.
and,
Rasmussen: Majority of Latinos in Arizona support letting cops check for immigration status?
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/04/27/rasmussen-majority-of-latinos-in-arizona-support-letting-cops-check-for-immigration-status/
and,
Lawmakers Urged to Secure Border Before Seeking Immigration Overhaul
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/04/26/immigration-overhaul-push-draws-calls-border-security-solution/
and, somewhere out there is a poll showing Americans want the border secured first, before legalizing those who are here illegally. It may be that even the Dems are hearing the American people this time:
Democrats want border security before legalization
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/04/26/immigration-overhaul-push-draws-calls-border-security-solution/
But, I predict that Obama will interfere and screw up any bipartisan agreements on border first legislation.
And, now I see that Reid has given in to Graham…and will bring up cap and tax before immigration reform. Maybe AZ can prove that it’s law is working well by then.
[…] Barack Obama is attempting (as usual) to subdivide the country along racial lines, trying to ratchet up Hispanic anger against the GOP to get votes in November. […]
Obama is taking the first steps in inciting the blacks, hispanics, etc. to confront the tea party people. He doesn’t care who gets hurt or killed. He wants there to be civil discord to he can cancel the elections in November or has some other nefarious deed in mind. I do not trust this guy and am living only for the day he is out of office. November might help slow him down but it will not stop him. The executive has a lot of power that can destroy this country and I think that is his aim.
WOW
Most of you on this page are totally missing the point.
And that point is that the federal law DOES NOT allow government officials to just go around asking for documentation if they have “reasonable suspicion” that someone is here illegally. And by the way, NO federal law requires you to carry and/or show ID. In fact, there is no law requiring citizens to carry identification of any kind. (Unless you are operating a motor vehicle which is a different subject altogether)
Its a very slippery slope Arizona is starting to slide down and all you people support it. You people are ridiculous. Have you read the law? I doubt the 60% from the rasmussen poll have actually read it, or understand the implications. If you are walking down the street, it is a fact and a right that you DO NOT have to show your identification. This is such a terrible solution to the issue here. I dont think Illegals should get a free pass, but let’s look at it this way. If you have weeds in your lawn you dont go around picking them by hand and expect the problem to go away. YOU HAVE TO ATTACK THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM. For example, go after the people doing the hiring, make that a felony. Go after the enablers, make that a felony. Don’t step on the rights of all of us.
PS To “Dhunter” above who says “The demanding of legal paperwork by law enforcement identifies and potentally deports these same Dem voters” It’s sad I need to explain this, but illegals who would be deported can’t vote. My god dude, you are a dhining star of ignorance.
nobodymm,
This is state law and states can ask to see identification (vagrant laws). It’s all legal.