Sep 18 2010

Dumb Incumbent Move By Senator Murkowski

Published by at 7:23 am under 2010 Elections,All General Discussions

Lisa Murkowski is repeating the same dumb move that has caused the national uproar against DC in the first place – she is not listening to the voters.

With the slogan “Let’s Make History,” Lisa Murkowski announced Friday that she’d pursue a write-in bid to keep her seat in the U.S. Senate after losing the Republican primary to Joe Miller.

Lisa Murkowski lost her nod to be the GOP senate candidate this cycle. A smart move would have been to back Joe Miller and make nice with Governor Palin, and prepare to take out Mark Begich, the other Alaskan Senator who is a Democrat. But no, Murkowski makes an arrogant move and instead possibly splitting the GOP vote and putting another senate seat at risk. With this one move, she has proven the Tea Party was right to take her out – she is too wedded to the power to be a GOP senator.

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35 Responses to “Dumb Incumbent Move By Senator Murkowski”

  1. WWS,

    What I am seeing is the typical cattiness that has very little to do with national politics and everything to do with female clique politics.

    This is all personal for Sen. Murkowski.

    Personal as in female high school clique politics personal.

    Women in female social groups lack self-confidence and are unhappy to stand out. Approval of the group is everything. They are outraged when a pretty women who does stand out, who does not dress or act like them, who does not kowtow to them or their conventions, gets ahead without their regard.

    It means they are irrelevant and they know it.

    That is death to their social standing.

    They can never forgive that, any more than Southern men can forgive Sherman for destroying their great grand daddy’s patrimony, for much the same reason.

    That is why Sen. Murkowski is going menopausal, off her meds, nuts, about losing to Palin’s champion Miller in the Republican Senate Primary.

    She not only lost her patrimony, she lost it to the pretty beauty queen/jock from Wasilla who dissed the Queen Bee and her clique.

    And she went to DC looking for an excuse — “I was dissed by DeMint!” — and the lobbyist bucks to do so.

    How high school juvenile can you get.

    The dissed queen bee is ticked off she lost the home coming queen election and is causing trouble for the student government home coming ball committee.

  2. Neo says:

    She won’t quit on Alaska

    Yeah, like a rapist who can’t get enough

  3. WWS says:

    Very good analysis, Trent. I’m going to disagree with one part of it, but in a way that actually proves your point. (so I don’t think you’ll mind)

    you wrote: “They can never forgive that, any more than Southern men can forgive Sherman for destroying their great grand daddy’s patrimony,”

    A bit of personal observation here: my wife and her family are all from Louisiana, but there’s some cousins that married into old families in Charleston and Atlanta. I actually got to know and meet some of the older generation for whom that war might as well have happened yesterday. (Just about all of that generation has passed away by now, though) Here’s what I observed – the men generally didn’t give a flip about it. They were all about hunting, or fishing, or whatever they were doing at their job. Some would get into re-enactments since it was a socially acceptable way to go play with guns and things that go BOOM! but that was about the extent of it.

    The WOMEN, on the other hand – it was always the women who carried the insults and indignities of 4 generations ago on their shoulders. They never forget, they never let anything go. The only time any of the men I ever met would really get into it is if they thought they had to do it to impress (reassure) the women they were married to. And that’s an old southern tradition too – you say whatever you gotta say to keep her happy, then you can go off and do what you want, like run around in that new bass boat you just bought with her money.

    That’s pretty much how that society worked, and yeah, that just backs up everything you said.

  4. AJ,

    Pretending that the RINO stereotype does not exist, let alone has a strong basis in reality (this election cycle especially), reflects poorly on you.

    When Jim Geraghty is posting stuff like below on how the RINO’s are self-identifying in the face of the Tea Party’s assault on their ruling class prerogatives.

    You have a credibility problem on the subject.

    ============

    Moderates Successfully Reinforce Image as Untrustworthy Hacks
    September 17, 2010 4:44 P.M.
    By Jim Geraghty

    Between Arlen Specter, Charlie Crist, Mike Castle refusing to endorse O’Donnell — a forgivable sentiment the day after a bitter defeat, less so as time goes by — and the rumor that Murkowski is running, the RINO-hunters have a point that the moderates never seem to be willing to compromise or put the party’s interest first.

    The NRSC will help elect a lot of winning GOP candidates this year, but between Specter, Crist, and Murkowski, they have had an embarrassing cycle . . .

  5. AJStrata says:

    Trent,

    Are there people in the conservative movement who disagree? Of COURSE. Who said they never existed.

    And all I point out is the idiots who are hunting RINOs are stupidly throwing the elections to the Dems – AGAIN!

    I also note that being badgering blunder heads make RINO hunters the worst political leaders because their insane drive for purity results in impotent, minority echo chambers.

    Look you folks on the right who think you are the next coming of the saviors are no different from the liberal saviors who just came through DC.

    I do not, and will not, bow down to purity tests. As an American I am allowed my own opinion, and I exercise my constitutional right to free speech on this blog – where I can tell RINO hunters and liberals that We The People don’t need them!

    Deal with it or take a hike.

  6. WWS,

    When I first mentioned that stuff about social status in a 2009 e-mail list conversation on Palin-hate, I got this response that has stuck with me since:

    What’s funny is that it continues to exist, no matter how old we get. At a thirtieth year reunion a few years back, several of the not so attractive girls who hung out together noticed that one of the really hot girls from the class was showing some age; a little more than most. They were absolutely giddy about it. In a group they were very catty. Alone, they were sort of okay, but still bitter, having that stuff go back to early teenage years. The men didn’t care what the one woman now looked like. She still had a great personality and all of the guys wanted to hang out with her. It’s all about the joy of life that she reflects. Sarah Palin has that and they don’t understand it.

    In the end, you, I, Murkowski, everybody, are all social creatures.

    Our early adolescent/young adult moments of acceptance and rejection stay with us our whole lives.

    That is why Left of Center Ruling Class women will go off their meds, bat s***, crazy if Palin gets on a Republican Presidential nomination ticket again and they will be even worse if she wins.

    The best and most concise explanation of the reasons why Leftist Ruling Class women lose it so completely over Sarah Palin also came to me via that same e-mail conversation. Science fiction writer John Ringo deconstructed an Ann Marlowe piece for Forbes as follows:

    http://www.forbes.com/2008/10/06/sarah-palin-elite-oped-cx_am_1007marlowe_print.html

    Okay, let’s break it down.

    A few thoughts ahead of that.

    My GF says that when women are in public they are in competition for attention. I think that is, at least in part, self-reflection but that’s something to keep in mind with that sub-set.

    Subsets:

    1. Abortion flinch. Many liberal women of the 30-60 subset had abortions or were ’supportive’ with friends on abortions. Palin’s clear ‘walk the walk’ position puts them in an automatic guilt condition. They can try to spin it but at 3AM the ghost of children lost come back to haunt them. Especially the ones that are past reproductive and ‘choice’ is just a word from their past.

    2. Baby-envy: Call it a voice from the past but alot of women who ‘never had time’ for children miss them. For males, the cultural and biological imperative, whatever feminists and new-age guys might think, is ‘get the girl.’ For women it’s kids and to a lesser extent a good husband. We’re culturally and biologically wired for it. Palin has gotten the kids and…

    3. Husband-envy: Just as a bunch of conservative males are going ‘Where is Wasilla and are there any more like her around?’ women of all strains are looking at a long-running marriage between a hard-working but only moderately successful man and a female powerhouse who still cooks and takes care of the house and are just shaking their heads in envy. Todd is one of the unsung heroes of this thing. He doesn’t seem to have a trace of envy for his power-house of a wife (which is really rare) and whatever their internal strife’s they’ve made it through alot of rough times together and are still ‘fun’ enough to take bets between each other with a tatoo as a pay-off. They survived the birth of a Down’s Child. That’s a major hit in any family no matter how devoted.

    For ‘First Wives’ (or second or third or fourth) that has to hurt.

    4. Homecoming Hate: Face it, most liberal women are dogs. They may or may not have been quite as abused by the ‘prep’ girls in school as they whine about but they certainly weren’t in the in-crowd.

    There’s plenty of evidence that neither was Sarah Palin but she has that look. She was a beauty pageant contestant, a jock and still has the ‘hot’ look in her forties. For the unwashed, patchouli-smelling ‘I-don’t-shave-my-armpits’ liberal type female that has to just piss them off.

    5. Out-cliqued: This is, at base, one of the things I think is going on in this article. The elite women, the ‘lunching ladies’ from WaiterRant, the hyper-feminists, the media elite women, have their clique and it has its specific dos and don’ts and they decide who is and is not a female elite.

    Suddenly along comes this…hick who has just totally thrown off their control of the process. She can’t even be dismissed as a Gold-digging little whore like that bitch who slept with Husband One. She’s a successful woman who has clawed her way up through the ranks of the political process and even if she skipped a few steps at the top she still can’t be totally dismissed.

    It’s a loss of control over who’s who. Which is, for them, all they really have left.

    6. ‘Did it all’ envy: Faced by a person who just shines who has some similarities to the viewer, people who are clearly extraordinary cause automatic envy. ‘There is no admiration without scorn.’ Studies of monkeys cover it nicely. Betas constantly test and pester the alpha because they feel they should be alpha. Happens with males and females. We call it ‘envy.’

    Palin has done it all. Happy marriage, kids, good husband, successful career… and she’s done it all from the ‘enemy’ camp.

    This is what the article is saying is the basis of Palin-Hate but I think it’s only one part.

    There are others and I may not have articulated the above well.

    But the real killer is unified and overlapping sets. Say that each of these has some ‘hate’ numeric against it. Give each a rating of 1-5. But they’re not additive, they’re more like a log function as is any psychological response. ‘Stress is not additive it’s synergistic.’

    Say you’ve got a woman who never had an abortion but has been a strong ‘pro-choice’ proponent her whole life and has emotionally supported and encouraged friends who had abortions. Give her a 2 on that. She, herself, is childless. 3 numeric. She was once married to a power-husband who ditched her and got Wife Two. 5 on that one. She’s probably fairly good looking so give her a 1 on Homecoming. Etc.

    Eventually she’s seeing red.

    This is especially going to be the case among the lunching lady set. The ones in this article, as described, mostly are childless and that is rarely from 100% successful birth control. I would guess that most of them are divorced at least once (and not ’starter’ marriages but are discards from ‘power’ husbands.) Ditto the core of women in the media, most of whom hit two or three, even five, of the above.

    At a certain point you hit full-out, 100%, eye-searing, blood-blind hatred.

    Which works for me because nothing spells disaster for her own side like a woman who is acting scorned while the men in her life are going ‘Jesus, she’s off her meds again…’

    John

    I urged John Ringo at the time to make that e-mail a separate op-ed for the NY Post, but he had lost his writing slot at the NY Post some years before and had been too busy writing books since to bother.

    Keep his six point template very closely in mind for the next few years.

    The hate speech spewing from the feminist left over Palin is going to make the gun-huggers “Waco/Ruby Ridge” and pro-lifer’s “Abortion is murder” early 1990’s hate talk look like a family X-mas card in comparison…with — I fear — worse violent results.

  7. AJStrata says:

    BTW, your “RINO” list is too short. You forget Hannity, DeMint, Savage, and a plethora of far right zealots who will not be part of a broad GOP as long as there are McCains, Bushes, etc in it. They can remain in ‘exile’ forever as far as I am concerned. You lose the center due to arrogance you repeat Obama, Pelosi and Reid’s mistakes – in spades.

  8. dbostan says:

    It is beyond stupid to portray DeMint as far right.

    He is the essence of fiscal conservatism, which should not be right or left.

    As for Hannity, he was less than critical when Bush and his liberal repubics pushed the fiscal insanity that paved the way for Obama the neo-com (from-neo-communist).
    By the way, that is only a small part of the many damages done to the country by the Bush administration.

    Savage?
    Just a self serving jerk, but with many good ideas.
    What is wrong with his motto-Borders, language, culture?
    Nothing, except those who don’t like to see the USA having secure borders, like any normal country in the world, or having a cohesive culture, underscored by our English language, are doing their best to undermine the country by undermining these ideas.

  9. dhunter says:

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/27844

    There is a larger game being played here and some of us who see it will NOTY just STFU and go along with business as usual within our country!
    An Excerpt:

    “THE GOP TAKES A PAGE FROM THE DEMS PLAYBOOK:

    As this nation heads towards November, a crucial turning point in American history, Palin’s foes are making hay. Political strategists the likes of Karl Rove and Charles Krauthammer have emerged from the old boys’ network closet. The most infamous, nepotistically-influenced, former Palin competitor Lisa Murkowski has announced she will run again this November—as a write in. In these days, it is wise to recall the actions of Harry Reid in 2006 when he summoned then-Senator Obama, instructing Barack it was the Party’s intentions to have him run for the Presidency (even though it would not be until the summer of 2008 that Reid would publicly endorse the Senator from Illinois).

    The Democrats (led by Reid) would have done anything to defeat Hillary—and they did it stealthily. The GOP is taking a page from that book. There is an all-too-familiar episode re-playing itself for voters to witness this season. The GOP loathes Sarah Palin. And the Party is now setting about to deeply unsettle those successful candidates she has promoted. The evidence is glaringly obvious. Murkowski has been unleashed; Rove and Krauthammer are doing their bidding. The events unfolding are towards one goal: the destruction of Palin’s bid for the Presidency.

    Beginning with Sarah Palin’s first mayoral bid in Wasilla, and her refusal to kowtow to the GOP in the aftermath of her ascension to city office—a position she rightly earned regardless of Party politics being played out on the local airwaves—to her days as Governor of Alaska and her patriotic decision to place more emphasis on the needs of the voters of her state than the bureaucratic strong-arming of the Bush administration and its political blackmail as it related to the Alaska pipeline contracts, Palin has steadfastly remained a true person of character—and a life-long politician representing “We the People”. Now, in what has become America’s deadliest fight against tyranny since its founding, this nation’s leader in waiting listens for her constituency’s demands once more.”

  10. ivehadit says:

    Trent, WWS, you have NAILED it. And I speak as an authority, LOL!

  11. WWS says:

    The New Big Tent

    I think there’s a new “Big Tent” developing, and I base this not just on gut feelings but on conversations with a close relation out on the left coast. The old alliances are falling apart while new ones are being forged, and everything is different. For this reason, I think none of the old vocabulary actually works anymore. (Rino, Dino, Far Left, Far Right, environut, whatever)

    And this means nothing is going to turn out the way people who are still using the old vocabulary think it will.

    here’s what he and I have been talking about, and of course, this is just 2 people not representing anyone but themselves, of course, but that’s where all politics starts. You’ve got to understand, I’ve always been pretty conservative and supported republican candidates, he’s always been what you call a hard core anti-corporation environmentalist and voted a strait democratic ticket. Just like most of the people who live where he does.

    Things have changed – he’s sick of government intruding into everything. He’s a bit of an unusual leftist, in that he’s always liked guns (one thing we have in common) and he’s always been outraged that any branch of government can come in and tell him what he can and can’t grow on his own land, as long as he has no intention of giving it to anyone else. And he’s come to believe that the no matter what the feds do, they don’t do it very well and we’d all be better off if they didn’t.

    He still doesn’t give a damn about republicans, and never will. Remember, this is a guy who passed out Obama stickers to his friends last election, and he is absolutely convinced that All Republicans are on the corporate payroll. But today we have something in common – I want to get rid of Obamacare, he wants to get rid of the DEA and the ATF and give that authority back to the States. I want to cut the EPA way way back, he wants to cut corporate welfare way back. He says what the hell are we still doing in Afghanistan, and I gotta say that I don’t even know what we’re doing there anymore. He thinks anyone who’s been in Congress more than 3 terms should be jailed, no matter what party they’re in, and I don’t disagree too forcefully with that one. Oh, and we BOTH want to see life made as miserable for the IRS as it possibly can.

    Here’s the deal – I used to be more bothered by the things he wanted to throw out, but now – if he’ll support me and agree to work for tossing out what I want tossed, I’ll support him and his friends and toss what he wants tossed. And we’ll all have more money left from getting rid of all of the crap that won’t be done anymore.

    He’s not that unusual for his region, btw – those who know about Washington, Oregon, and Northern California know that there’s a whole lot of voters there just like him. Enough to swing an election? Sure.

    So here’s the New Big Tent I see coming: You want to cut government and throw out everyone who’s gotten fat and happy off the status quo, no matter what party they’re from? You’re in the Tent. Social philosophy don’t matter, right and left don’t matter. Likewise, if you want to Increase spending and Increase govm’t control (cap’n’trade? more FDA controls?) then you are OUTSIDE the tent. Social policy doesn’t matter, right and left doesn’t matter. (except to the extent that the left *generally* favors more government control, but in this aspect Establishment Democrats and Establishment Republicans are a lot closer to each other than either of them are to the grass roots)

    How many voters can you get in under this new version of the Big Tent, based not on ideology but instead on a complete rejection of Washington and all it’s works? Can you get a majority?

    I think we can.

  12. dhunter says:

    WWS I think you just described the TEA PARTY and I hope your right I’m in!

  13. ivehadit says:

    Hunter, Karl publically denounced what Murkowski is doing. And I believe him.

    I am furious at him for what he has said about O’Donnell *publically*. Some things just need to be said within the campaign and not out in the open for the opponents to use in campaign ads.

  14. AJ,

    You forgot a name on your “RINO Hunter” list.

    Governor Palin endorsed “Glenda the Good Witch” O’Donnell just like Hannity, DeMint, Savage, Levin et al.

    Palin has the bloody carcasses of Murkowski’s and Castle’s political career’s tied over the front hood of her husband’s pick up ready for the taxidermy man.

    That makes Sarah Palin. the biggest and most powerful “RINO Hunter” this election cycle.

    Think on that fact deeply.

  15. LarryGeiger says:

    WWS:
    Mama ain’t happy, ain’t no body happy!