Mar 25 2006
Redstate Will Never Learn
The folks at Redstate need to mature a bit more. I am going to remind them again that they play at being pure while being just as low and slimey as the scum that pilloried Ben Domenech’s family. This is Redstate at it’s lowest – when it mirrors the worst of the left. Here is a brief exchange, starting with someone who was simply trying to point out there were two examples of Ben’s problems at NRO: one being nothing as it was a repost of what he did elsewhere, and the second being a real serious rip-off of someone else’s work.
First comment – the correction:
Apparently better than you.
By: mcg
In his rebuttal, Ben is talking about a music review, when I have personally seen (both the NRO and Crosswalk versions). This is a completely different allegation
Next comment – the warning/threat:
mcg: Put differently: Stop, now. (nt)
By: Thomas
Next comment – response to warning/threat:
I’m afraid you’re going to have to make me.
By: mcg
Ban me if you must, but you have no good reason to do so. I’m well aware that the left flung truckloads of dung at Ben hoping something would stick. Well, something has. He needs to answer this.
Next comment – the personal insult against a poster:
I have a very good reason to do so
By: Thomas
You’re hounding someone, repeatedly. That’s contrary to the intent and letter of the Posting Rules. If you feel the need to be a martyr to stupid, go for it.
Classic Redstate. When they don’t agree with you they insult you and then ban you. Childish really. Notice how someone comes to defend mcg and is threatened with banishment as well! First, the defense:
mcg is correct
By: aggieben
mcg, I’m with you. Ben does need to answer to the specific charges and not hide behind the hordes of bloggers who will rush to defend him without getting all the facts (not that I claim to have them, just that I’m not rushing to anything).
Thomas: mcg wasn’t “hounding” anyone.
Followed by the threat:
You want to be with him
By: streiff
that’s fine with me.
Otherwise you’d be wise to stay on the porch in this one
This is why Redstate is akin to a fascist state. Get out of line and you are insulted and threatened.
I hope Ben get’s his life back on track. My suggestion is get away from Redstate and find some better people to blog with. I get emails behind the scenes from lots of people who have been pilloried for not agreeing with the Redstate brass. Ben seems like he could be better than that.
With that said, this was an awesome post by Krempasky who must be the holder of what is good and pure at Redstate. Just read it and marvel at the difference in tone and subject. I will end this with the comment of another reader at the end of the exchange above:
Ding
By: bergman
The twelve-year-olds rule the roost here. Hopefully someday Krempansky will go out on his own and leave this blowhards.
Honestly, you’re as bad as the Kossacks here.
Bye.
It really is hard to sympathize about being Redstate being ravaged by the left, when it ravages it’s own readers on the right every single day. What went wrong in the Washington Post’s experiment is they went to the wrong place to get adult thoughts on the issues of the day.
Addendum: for those wondering why I am not impressed with Redstate I did a post on my banning here. There were discussions to let me back in afterwards, but I would not return until there was a mea culpa on their side admitting that they violated their own rules of behavior. Well, it is clear that was a bridge too far for the folks at Redstate since I never returned. Seems Ben is not the only one who has trouble facing his foibles. But he was one of the few to do so and move on – got to give him credit for that.
Et Tu, Puty-Put?
Putin Accused of Plagiarizing His Ph.D. Thesis
“It was really quite common for an up-and-coming apparatchik to get a ghostwritten work done to obtain a degree,” he said. “It’s probably an open question whether Putin even read his dissertation until shortly before he had to defend it.”—-Moscow Times 3/27/06 quoting E. Wayne Merry, senior associate at the American Foreign Policy Council
The Sunday Times
March 26, 2006
Putin accused of plagiarising his PhD thesis
Tony Allen-Mills,
New York
THE career of President Vladimir Putin of Russia was built at least in part on a lie, according to US researchers. A new study of an economics thesis written by Putin in the mid-1990s has revealed that large chunks of it were copied from an American text.
Putin was labelled a plagiarist yesterday after a pair of researchers at the Brookings Institution, a Washington DC think tank, established that the Russian president’s academic credentials were based on a dissertation he had lifted in part verbatim from the Russian translation of a management study written by two professors at the University of Pittsburgh in 1978……
According to Clifford G Gaddy, a senior fellow at Brookings, 16 of the 20 pages that open a key section of Putin’s work were copied either word for word or with minute alterations from a management study, Strategic Planning and Policy, written by US professors William King and David Cleland. The study was translated into Russian by a KGB-related institute in the early 1990s…
Putin’s work was entitled “The Strategic Planning of Regional Resources Under the Formation of Market Relations†and was largely an essay on how a state should manage its natural resources. Experts on the former Soviet Union said last week it was common for ambitious “apparatchiks†to seek to inflate their credentials with an impressive-sounding degree, and that there were many cases at the time of officials hiring ghost-writers to produce work they passed off as their own…
…US scholars say that his academic studies in the mid-1990s may have been intended to impress the western investors who were flooding into the rapidly modernising Russian city.
“Somebody was cutting corners,†Gaddy added, “whether it was Mr Putin or whoever cut and pasted the work for him.â€
See the entire article here:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2101607,00.html
Moscow Times reported the same story on March 27 and observed:
Dubious academic credential-building was common in Eastern Europe and especially in East Germany, where Putin once served as a KGB agent, E. Wayne Merry, senior associate at the American Foreign Policy Council, told The Washington Times. “It was really quite common for an up-and-coming apparatchik to get a ghostwritten work done to obtain a degree,” he said. “It’s probably an open question whether Putin even read his dissertation until shortly before he had to defend it.” http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2006/03/27/011.html
JFK doesn’t seem to have written Profiles in Courage:
Snips from
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/031107.html
In December 1957 syndicated columnist Drew Pearson, interviewed on TV by Mike Wallace, said, “Jack Kennedy is . . . the only man in history that I know who won a Pulitzer prize on a book which was ghostwritten for him.” Outraged, Kennedy hired lawyer Clark Clifford, who collected the senator’s handwritten notes and rounded up statements from people who said they’d seen him working on the book, then persuaded Wallace’s bosses at ABC to read a retraction on the air.
Kennedy made no secret of Sorensen’s involvement in Profiles, crediting him in the preface as “my research associate,” and likewise acknowledged the contributions of Davids and others. But he insisted that he was the book’s author and bristled even at teasing suggestions to the contrary. Sorensen and other Kennedy loyalists backed him up then and have done so since.
Who is Streiff?
He seems to be the least stable of all the the RS bully boy brigade.