Dec 17 2010
The Land Of Fruits & Nuts
I just don’t have the words to express the global stupidity of this:
California hasn’t learned from the failure of the Chicago Climate Exchange this year, when a ton of Carbon traded for a mere 5 cents. Nobody wanted to buy it even at that ridiculously low price. But, like a zombie, carbon trading rises again in brain dead broken California.
“It’s the official starting gun for California and for Western regional carbon markets,” Singer said. “It means we get to make this business a growing reality.”
Central to the law, which goes into effect in 2012, is a “cap and trade” system designed to limit the amount of carbon from the state’s 500 largest emitters – mostly power plants, energy companies and heavy industry.
CA missed the memo about holes and why to not keep digging. Of course, the tools running this gas exchange will fleece millions from the state in what is clearly a legal and obvious con operation. Your tax dollars down the drain.
Right on AJ. If you’re not a fruit you go nuts.
I dunno, after reading Victor Davis Hanson’s recent essay on the Two Californias, I imagine this scenario occurring: large amounts of “power” will be generated by unregulated folks (mostly undocumented Democrats) burning wood and trash on the side of the roads and in backyards. But the wealthy elite on the coast will pay increasingly large amounts of money to official licensed power generators so they can feel good while each of them consumes enough resources to fly Al Gore’s and Prince Big Ear’s entourages to climate conferences for a decade. And the folks in the middle will continue their exodus to states without carbon exchanges.
A lot of LA’s power comes from Arizona. Good luck forcing them into your boondoggle, guys. Me, if I were a power generation facility serving the needs of Californians, I’d just cut off the power when I reached the “carbon limit” – but then, I’m a notorious asshole.
More and more I’m thinking that anything that leads to the bankruptcy and financial collapse of California is in the long run a great good. There’s no other possible endpoint for this madness, so it’s better to get there as quickly as possible.
Anyone who still lives there, get out! A person with savings or property in California today is much like a Jew in 1936 Germany – you know what’s coming, and you’ve just got a little bit of time left to do something before it is too late for you.
Those that are staying are denying the facts or could not afford to get out of CA. Too bad.
I am glad that I do not live in CA and do I care what happens to CA? No. And I hope that CA will not be bailed out. They did it to themselves and they need to become responsible for themselves. Only way to do it is to allow them to fail and fail miserably, then allow them to start over.
These nuts bags honed their skills in the 60’s. I wonder if the State can wait it out, they have to be dead in the next 10 years.
“Those that are staying are denying the facts or could not afford to get out of CA. Too bad.”
Well, I live in California. I guess I am lucky because where I live the schools are actually very good (the high school makes Newsweek’s top 100 in the nation every year). We have no crime in this neighborhood. My neighborhood is mostly people from China and India. Very few native born Americans here.
I am looking to move, though, but there aren’t too many places where a person with my skills can find work outside of Silicon Valley. The area around Ashburn, Va., maybe, or possibly Dallas or Chicago and that’s about it.
My profession pretty much limits my choices.
Sorry for making a generic comment. You sure lucked out. Houston and Austin are heavy with programming jobs.
BTW, I read an article about Jerry Brown and his surprise after looking at the CA budget and now chirping how much of a worse shape the CA stat government is and how they may be forced to cut back by 25 percent across the board, lay lots of government people.
There’s also a reference to the need for bankrupting CA in order to break the state union contracts and starting over.
“My neighborhood is mostly people from China and India.”
That explains a lot – the skilled classes are no longer American, and thus have neither any sympathy for our governmental legacy nor any real connection to the rest of the country.
And most importantly, they know that if worst comes to worst they all have their escape plans ready – they just go back where they came, where any money they’ve accumulated will finance a very nice lifestyle. Apparently a majority has now reached a point where they have no ties to the past and no interest in the long term future.
This is how societies die. The only option left to those of us in the rest of the country is to make sure that the contagion stays confined in that area, and that when Cali falls, it falls alone.
It looks as if the denizens of Wretchard’s ‘The Belmont Club’ have been linked over. But I surfed over and cannot find the link. Oh well…
I think I recognize ALL of the names…
Anyway, I live in Enron by the Sea. Lovely San Diego. My state has been dumb for as long as I have lived. We are getting dumber.
We are going down – but, regretfully, I think we will take the rest with us. There is no way out.
My particular skill set isn’t computers, it is networking, routers and switches. And large global networks, at that. There just aren’t that many people who have the sort of networks I work on. You can probably count them on your fingers and toes. I actually like my current job very much, I just don’t like living in California and think that the next two to four years here are going to be horrible.
We have run out of money, we have a socialist as the new governor, the initiative that now allows a budget to pass with only a simple majority means we will have a “rubber stamp” legislature, we have a governor and an attorney general coming in that are both against the death penalty (hat tip to the prison guard unions) and the attorney general coming in comes from San Francisco where she supported the whole “sanctuary city” deal.
It is a mess and it is going to get worse and I don’t want my hard earned having anything to do with it. I would like to remain with my current employer but live someplace else and that is going to take a while to accomplish.
Wow, that’s odd, I ended up in the moderation bucket without even adding a link! Must have said a magic word or something.
Boghie, many free market economists claim that if CA goes, the rest of the nation will go.
Their rationale? CA has the 8th largest economy in the world.
So DREAM is dead in the lame duck session. DADT is now repealed and done in the lame duck session. What’s left? START, CR, and the Defense Authorization bill?
Quite frankly, I don’t understand the issue with the DADT.
Is the House done for good or they still have something left in its agenda? Please tell me that Pelosi is done as the speaker of the house and now heading home for Christmas.
crospatch,
I would not be surprised if our paths crossed in SV.
Certainly our packets crossed, so to speak…
I am looking to get out of CA.
My work is in SV but I live in the Central Valley.
You must read the article VDH wrote to fully understand the disaster the Central Valley, and CA are now.
I think the best place for people like me, with my skills, is either Dallas or Austin.
I also do patents, but I would not move to Washington, DC, for anything in the world.
Now that DADT is a done deal, it’s worthwhile to look at the good elements. First, the Bad – the Pentagon chiefs didn’t want it, thought it would cause trouble. I didn’t think we should second guess them in their area of expertise.
But, the good: I could never find a way to argue that the DADT policy was actually constitutional, and that bothered me. Telling people that they’re fine as long as they refuse to tell the truth about a personal matter? There’s just no way that passes any first amendment test, not even in the military, and I never liked the policy for that reason.
As long as the armed forces strictly enforce the fraternization rules, which *are* constitutional, then the impact on operations will probably be minimal. And that’s something they should be doing already.
Also, an even greater good – this issue is now over. Even if we’re not happy about it, it’s done. Time to drop it, let it go, stop letting it be an open wound that keeps getting way too much airtime. With our debt and spending problems, we still have more than enough issues that deserve our full attention.
btw – Lugar of Indiana voted to pass the DREAM act in the lame duck session. He knew that this was a position repudiated by the voters just six weeks ago, along with the rest of the liberal agenda. He didn’t care.
For that betrayal, regardless of how long he’s been in the Senate, Lugar needs to be primaried in 2012. Time for him to go the way of Bob Bennett.
START won’t get the 67 votes. So START may be done for this lame duck session.
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Sorry for the double post, but the only way I can log in is to do it on Iphone, that logs me in on my computer. Don’t have a clue as to what that deal is.
anyhow, what I want to say is: First, I hope California tanks, apparently no one (except crosspatch) other than idiots live there. They do not deserve to be bailed out. They need to file a complete bankruptcy and let the idiots survive if they can.
DADT, we get what we deserve. I was in the Navy in the 1950’s and I knew that there was a gay guy or so in my division, but they didn’t advertise and there was never a problem. I know of some incidents where gay guys came out and there were very many problems and it usually ended up in the gay guy getting injured and leaving the ship. while I had sympathy, I understood why it happened.
So now, they need to have four separate berthing arrangements, straight guys, gay guys, straight women, gay women. No straight guy wants to share a berthing compartment with a gay guy. I’m just glad I don’t have to deal with all that mess anymore. I have absolutely no problem with people being gay just as long as they act like normal people. When they get in my face and demand that I like gay people, that’s just not right. they have no more right to demand that than I do to demand that all female like me. Human nature is what it is. Live and let live.
I’m very proud that the DREAM act is dead, the sympathy act didn’t work. The family of a bank robber (illegal alien) doesn’t get to keep the cash when the bank robber is caught. The family of an illegal alien doesn’t get to stay just because the illegal alien had to go back home.
Well, dbostan, I lived in Fairfax Country for several years and it wasn’t so bad. This time I would live further West, say Loudoun County. The network I currently maintain is global so it doesn’t really matter much where I live, I work on it remotely most of the time anyway. A data center in Europe was installed, configured and is maintained from my kitchen table.
Just stay on the Virginia side of the border and you will be fine. I don’t think anyone could pay me enough to live in DC proper or in the Maryland suburbs.
The thing I don’t like about back East is the weather. I was born and raised in that region and after a couple of winters with back to back Nor’easters … well, been there, done that.
Salt Lake is growing quickly. A lot of companies like eBay and Twitter have been growing their infrastructure there. That might be a reasonable compromise. But it snows there, too and can get bitter cold in the winter.
Maybe I will just give up and move to Belize … once the kids are on their own.