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		<title>By: Carol_Herman</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1755/comment-page-1#comment-6260</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol_Herman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2006 05:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>truman was very second rate!  He fired MacArthur.  He lied through his teeth when it came to MacArthur.  (Especially that one about MacArthur&#039;s plane refusing to land &quot;first.&quot;  It was on the ground hours before truman even showed up.  MacArthur had time to shower and breakfast.  And, what got truman&#039;s goat was that he was at the bottom of the stairs, when truman disembarked his plane, WITHOUT A TIE!  Then, his complaint was &quot;costume.&quot;  

Yes, truman got away with a lot.  Even with the recognition of Israel, he really believed Israel would be done in by the arabs.  And, he didn&#039;t want to look bad.  That was truman!  Always worried about how he&#039;d look.  While the government was infested with soviet spies.  And, the UN, using russia and china, set the Americans up in korea. A USELESS PIECE OF TERRITORY IN THE PACIFIC!  Dean Rusk split it into two parts.  But the country isn&#039;t really divisible.  Add to this how Nehru also helped the russians.  The idea was the the UN would create &quot;stalemate.&quot;  And, it was MacArthur who got bumped.

FDR was a giant!  He didn&#039;t get pushed into war when Europe toppled into it.  He told Churchill he would never let American troops be led by the European generals.  And, he also told Churchill that once we were committed we would NEVER save the colonies for the Europeans.  WHen you see Bush&#039;s plans to bring democracy to the globe; those were FDR&#039;s plans, too.  And, MacArthur&#039;s greatest achievement was to bring democracy to those savages, the Japs!  While truman tried to get him out of japan, by promising him parades.

Truman was a second-rater.  And, like LBJ, knew enough to run home, instead of seeking a second term.  Some day our history books will toss the PC stuff.  The truth&#039;s breathtaking.  And, wonderful.  But not for the donks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>truman was very second rate!  He fired MacArthur.  He lied through his teeth when it came to MacArthur.  (Especially that one about MacArthur&#8217;s plane refusing to land &#8220;first.&#8221;  It was on the ground hours before truman even showed up.  MacArthur had time to shower and breakfast.  And, what got truman&#8217;s goat was that he was at the bottom of the stairs, when truman disembarked his plane, WITHOUT A TIE!  Then, his complaint was &#8220;costume.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Yes, truman got away with a lot.  Even with the recognition of Israel, he really believed Israel would be done in by the arabs.  And, he didn&#8217;t want to look bad.  That was truman!  Always worried about how he&#8217;d look.  While the government was infested with soviet spies.  And, the UN, using russia and china, set the Americans up in korea. A USELESS PIECE OF TERRITORY IN THE PACIFIC!  Dean Rusk split it into two parts.  But the country isn&#8217;t really divisible.  Add to this how Nehru also helped the russians.  The idea was the the UN would create &#8220;stalemate.&#8221;  And, it was MacArthur who got bumped.</p>
<p>FDR was a giant!  He didn&#8217;t get pushed into war when Europe toppled into it.  He told Churchill he would never let American troops be led by the European generals.  And, he also told Churchill that once we were committed we would NEVER save the colonies for the Europeans.  WHen you see Bush&#8217;s plans to bring democracy to the globe; those were FDR&#8217;s plans, too.  And, MacArthur&#8217;s greatest achievement was to bring democracy to those savages, the Japs!  While truman tried to get him out of japan, by promising him parades.</p>
<p>Truman was a second-rater.  And, like LBJ, knew enough to run home, instead of seeking a second term.  Some day our history books will toss the PC stuff.  The truth&#8217;s breathtaking.  And, wonderful.  But not for the donks.</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1755/comment-page-1#comment-6250</link>
		<dc:creator>crosspatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2006 02:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually it is starting to look more like it was Negroponte saying to Bush &quot;it&#039;s either my way or his way, one or the other&quot;.  Bush chose Negroponte&#039;s way, Goss said &quot;Later, dudes!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually it is starting to look more like it was Negroponte saying to Bush &#8220;it&#8217;s either my way or his way, one or the other&#8221;.  Bush chose Negroponte&#8217;s way, Goss said &#8220;Later, dudes!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1755/comment-page-1#comment-6248</link>
		<dc:creator>crosspatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2006 01:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it went like this:

Board of Directors sees falling profits and production and decide the company needs a shaking up.  They send in ball buster CEO to clean house.  The tell the staff that the CEO is there to stay (aids in the cleanup effort by encouraging the disenchanted to leave).  CEO cleans house and puts programs in place to get things going in the right direction.  At some point the ground is all worked (sorry for mixing metaphors here) and the seeds all planted, not much left to do but tend to a few fences.  Now the decision is made to get that CEO out because he has caused some chafing.  You put a new guy in place who had nothing to do with the housecleaning so that the team in place then then begin to bond and get moving again.

Basically, there comes a point where leaving the guy in place starts costing you more in terms of productivity than bringing in the new guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it went like this:</p>
<p>Board of Directors sees falling profits and production and decide the company needs a shaking up.  They send in ball buster CEO to clean house.  The tell the staff that the CEO is there to stay (aids in the cleanup effort by encouraging the disenchanted to leave).  CEO cleans house and puts programs in place to get things going in the right direction.  At some point the ground is all worked (sorry for mixing metaphors here) and the seeds all planted, not much left to do but tend to a few fences.  Now the decision is made to get that CEO out because he has caused some chafing.  You put a new guy in place who had nothing to do with the housecleaning so that the team in place then then begin to bond and get moving again.</p>
<p>Basically, there comes a point where leaving the guy in place starts costing you more in terms of productivity than bringing in the new guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Decision '08</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1755/comment-page-1#comment-6242</link>
		<dc:creator>Decision '08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2006 00:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Was Porter Out Of Order?...&lt;/strong&gt;

	Never mind that headline, just a lame attempt at a cheap laugh&#8230;
	Why did Goss leave, though?
	AJ and Mac Ranger think he did his duty and went on his merry way&#8230;
	Think Progress sees it as a preemptive move to avoid a burgeoning Duke Cunnin...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Was Porter Out Of Order?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>	Never mind that headline, just a lame attempt at a cheap laugh&#8230;<br />
	Why did Goss leave, though?<br />
	AJ and Mac Ranger think he did his duty and went on his merry way&#8230;<br />
	Think Progress sees it as a preemptive move to avoid a burgeoning Duke Cunnin&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: elendil</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1755/comment-page-1#comment-6241</link>
		<dc:creator>elendil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2006 00:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you&#039;re right.

Btw, Bre&#039;r Rabbit.  Bre&#039;r = Brother in the black dialect stories that feature that character.  A briar patch figured in one of those stories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you&#8217;re right.</p>
<p>Btw, Bre&#8217;r Rabbit.  Bre&#8217;r = Brother in the black dialect stories that feature that character.  A briar patch figured in one of those stories.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2006 00:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The analogy to Truman is right on I think. Both Truman and Bush had to make some very big decisions and that can make enemies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The analogy to Truman is right on I think. Both Truman and Bush had to make some very big decisions and that can make enemies.</p>
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		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1755/comment-page-1#comment-6239</link>
		<dc:creator>AJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2006 00:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crosspatch,

I agree with your view there.  Consider it now since Truman!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crosspatch,</p>
<p>I agree with your view there.  Consider it now since Truman!</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1755/comment-page-1#comment-6237</link>
		<dc:creator>crosspatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 23:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;No one has left as large an imprint as George Bush has on the Government of the United States since FDR and WW II&quot;

I would say to have a look at Harry S. Truman when his approval ratings were in the 20% range.  He was creating the CIA, NSA, and Joint Chiefs of Staff while the left was complaining that he was building a police state while body bags were flowing back from Korea.  Truman&#039;s work won the cold war decades after Harry was gone.  

Bush is basically re-organizing and modernizing the infrastructure that Truman built to reflect the modern reality and I have a hunch Bush will go down as the US President that saved Western civilization.  That might take decades of hard work to come to pass, though.

Not to take anything away from FDR, but I would say since Truman, not since FDR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;No one has left as large an imprint as George Bush has on the Government of the United States since FDR and WW II&#8221;</p>
<p>I would say to have a look at Harry S. Truman when his approval ratings were in the 20% range.  He was creating the CIA, NSA, and Joint Chiefs of Staff while the left was complaining that he was building a police state while body bags were flowing back from Korea.  Truman&#8217;s work won the cold war decades after Harry was gone.  </p>
<p>Bush is basically re-organizing and modernizing the infrastructure that Truman built to reflect the modern reality and I have a hunch Bush will go down as the US President that saved Western civilization.  That might take decades of hard work to come to pass, though.</p>
<p>Not to take anything away from FDR, but I would say since Truman, not since FDR.</p>
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		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 23:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sad,

It was slow when I left! That&#039;s my story and I&#039;m sticking by it.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sad,</p>
<p>It was slow when I left! That&#8217;s my story and I&#8217;m sticking by it&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: wickedpinto</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1755/comment-page-1#comment-6235</link>
		<dc:creator>wickedpinto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 23:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The mark of a leader isn&#039;t how well he does while he is present, it is what is accomplished after he is gone.  A leader gets things done, a good leader makes others get things done, a great leader exists, even in absence like a spectre to ensure that things will be done, and done right.

George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt hover over the Presidency letting whoever it is that sits in that seat that they must live up to previous examples.  Puller, MacArthur, Ike, Bradley, Pershing, McClellan. . . . hell even Lee hovers over every man in uniform who leads, so that everyone knows that a thing must be done, and for them to ensure it gets done.

I don&#039;t know if Goss is that kind of man, but I think he knows the difference between being a proper been counter leader, personaly leading the assault on treason in the CIA, and real leadership.  If he was to the CIA 1/10th of what Hoover was to the FBI, that is a MAJOR accomplishment. 

No reason to assume anything yet, but I hope he was a Grant, rather than a Burnsides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mark of a leader isn&#8217;t how well he does while he is present, it is what is accomplished after he is gone.  A leader gets things done, a good leader makes others get things done, a great leader exists, even in absence like a spectre to ensure that things will be done, and done right.</p>
<p>George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt hover over the Presidency letting whoever it is that sits in that seat that they must live up to previous examples.  Puller, MacArthur, Ike, Bradley, Pershing, McClellan. . . . hell even Lee hovers over every man in uniform who leads, so that everyone knows that a thing must be done, and for them to ensure it gets done.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if Goss is that kind of man, but I think he knows the difference between being a proper been counter leader, personaly leading the assault on treason in the CIA, and real leadership.  If he was to the CIA 1/10th of what Hoover was to the FBI, that is a MAJOR accomplishment. </p>
<p>No reason to assume anything yet, but I hope he was a Grant, rather than a Burnsides.</p>
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		<title>By: sad</title>
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		<dc:creator>sad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 22:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So much for your &quot;no news &quot; day!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So much for your &#8220;no news &#8221; day!!!!</p>
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