FYI

*Reverend* Martin Luther King was wiretapped by Bobby Kennedy when he was John F Kennedy’s Attoney General.

They were both Democrats.

The people they are monitoring are people in this country that are talking to known terrorists overseas. The question of “so who else are they talking to?” is one that comes quite naturally and not answering that question is irresponsible. In this case, NSA isn’t even looking at who, they are looking only at telephone numbers that were dialed. So they have a list of phone numbers dialed by someone in this country that also talks to known terrorists. I have not one iota of issue with that. In fact, if something were to happen down the line and I found out they COULD have had that information and didn’t get it, I would be livid because it would have been irresponsible for them NOT to get that information.

For the life of me I can not see why this is even being debated. The collection of phone numbers by someone who is dialing known terrorists does not infringe a bit. Someone had better be finding out who the terrorists are in this country and who they are talking to. If fact, Iran has said in the open that they have terrorist cells in this country that they could activate. Those cells need to be found and eliminated.

I am getting quite tired of hearing patsies for the left who would thow away the lives of their fellow Americans to make a political point. It is sick. It is insane. This has nothing to do with whether or not someone supports the President or the Republicans or a nominee for DCI, it is about the security of this country and that includes people of ALL political stripes. Democrats were killed in the twin towers, in the Pentagon, and in those planes. I don’t want to see any more Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, whatever, get killed.

Al Qaeda isn’t going to stop attacking us if a Democrat is elected. They tried to blow up one of the twin towers while a Democrat was in office. 9/11 was planned, staffed, and trained for while a Democrat was in office and long before anyone knew who the next president was going to be. In fact, the polls at the time suggested it would be another Democrat. They don’t care! It is time people got it through their heads that this is not a domestic political issue. They don’t care who is in office. They are going to kill as many of us as they can as often as they can. Interfering with investigations like this has the potential to get many more people killed.

Those sources and methods are used by all presidents regardless of party. To expose them takes them out of the hands of the next president. These kinds of exposures can not be undone later when the next guy takes office, they are permanent damage. They educate the enemy and cause them to take countermeasures that make gathering information on their activities more difficult. The people that leaked this information are not patriots in any sense of the word. They are selfish criminals that don’t care if their fellow citizens die as long as they get to push their agenda. And make no mistake, these are the kinds of loose lips that do indeed get people killed by allowing an enemy to be a little more successful, allowing to evade detection, alowing them to remain in the woodwork.

This is NOT a political matter for me. It is a security matter that might result in my loved ones, neighbors, neighbors’ loved ones, or God forbid, yours being killed because we weren’t able to detect and stop an attack before it happens.

To put this in a political perspective is to expose one’s total lack of understanding of how important even a small piece of information can be. Again, we are not talking about monitoring people’s calls here. We are not talking about wiretaps. What we are talking about basically is a look at someone’s phone bill who happens to be in contact with known terrorists so that maybe we can place some other terrorists into the “known” column. Again, it is not a pro or anti Bush administration issue, it is a pro or anti United States of America issue and the security of our community in the face of people who would wish to kill us and have not only said so repeatedly, they have DONE it.

Except when we don’t force them to be on the “up and up”.

At this point they aren’t collecting squat that cound invade anyone’s pivacy. I hereby give my permission for the government to know my phone number. I will go even better and if they want my name too, they can have it.

Hey people, did you know that there is a vast conspiracy to publically divulge people’s name, address, and phone number to anyone that wants it? You can obtain this listing free of charge. It’s called the white pages.

The NSA is collecting less information about you than one could obtain from directory assistance in the majority of cases.\

This is such a non-issue it isn’t even funny. What chaps my ass the most, though, is that the same people that would obstruct this collection are the same ones that would criticize a failure to connect the dots in case of a future attack.

They are playing a game of “Let’s see if you can still connect the dots after we hide all the dots from you”. What absolute myopic morons the left is on this issue. How many people have to die? Wasn’t 3000 in NY enough? We aren’t talking about government listening to peoples phones here, we are talking about them building a database of numbers.

Oh, and a database of hundreds of millions of names, addresses, and phone numbers is available for free from phone companies. They aren’t even linking these numbers to white pages entries. Give it a break. Anyone that comes out against this runs the risk of looking like a complete and total moron who is interested only in political activism but hasn’t bothered to give the issue a moment of thought.

This just goes to prove that 50% of the population is below the median intelligence level. This story is designed to push emotional buttons and that is it. There is a word for it. It’s called agitprop.

And, golly, Larry Johnson is a Republican who voted for Bush? So, maybe he was the one who sabotaged the Kerry campaign? Heh.

AJ, looks like you’ve got a whole new bunch of “fans.” I’m fully confident you’ll handle ‘em (darn, I forgot to pick up a new popcorn popper).

Merry

It didn’t take long for the vultures on the left to start circling CIA Director nominee Hayden after the disgusting leak of MORE NSA intelligence information. One day there is going to be a Congress member “death by trampling” in the rush to get fac…

They are not listening into conversations and they do not have to have a warrant in all cases.

Keep repeating it until it gets through your thick skull.

It’s OK for the government to eavesdrop or track the phone calls of Americans…
…With a warrant.
With a warrant.
With a warrant.
With a warrant.

Sorry, I don’t trust the authorities to do what’s right.

It’s the main reason I’m against gun control.

BTW, isn’t Rove still on the payroll?

“Conservative columnist Max Boot calls Joseph Wilson a “liar,” and claims that Plame’s status was not “covert” at the time of her outing in the Novak column because she had been working in Virginia for more than five years.[173] Although he left the CIA in 1993, Larry C. Johnson attempted to clear up the confusion surrounding Plame’s status in a column responding to Max Boot: “The law actually requires that a covered person ‘served’ overseas in the last five years. Served does not mean lived. In the case of Valerie Wilson, energy consultant for Brewster-Jennings, she traveled overseas in 2003, 2002, and 2001, as part of her cover job. She met with folks who worked in the nuclear industry, cultivated sources, and managed spies. She was a national security asset until exposed by Karl Rove and Scooter Libby.”[174]”

Sounds like she was undercover to me. I assume Larry C. Johnson, a registered Republican who voted for Bush is wrong?

This blog is absent any honest debate.

Good night, y’all.

The Dear Leader must protect us by monitoring whom we call, just as he must watch us when we gather, to ensure that we are not supporting al-Qaida……

Ah, so I see how things work here now. Don’t like the story, say something bad about the source. So by that rationale, I can singlehandedly dismiss any link to: Fox News, Washington Times, etc.? Nevermind that. Are you seriously implying that:

1. Plame was not covert
2. Plame was not working on Iran
3. She was not outed by the administration in the form of a leak to the press? This being the “liberal” media who sat on the story until after the election?
4. Regardless of whether she was working the Iran beat, if she was covert, that whomever leaked her identity from within the administration did not commit a crime?

Please let me know. But I think I already know the answer.

A case of pick your poison, Shuster or Raw Story.