Jan 24 2012
Romney NOT A Working Class American (Heck, He’s Not Even Working)
Update: Even the WSJ is beginning to see the light:
That’s the real lesson of South Carolina’s Saturday primary, where Newt Gingrich, the Che Guevara of the right, always interested in leading a rebellion, smashed Mr. Romney, the Harvard M.B.A. interested in carefully calibrated, data-driven change. The South Carolina story—and the story going forward from here—isn’t so much Newt vs. Mitt as it is the insurgents vs. the establishment.
In fact, that has been the story of the Republican Party since the tea-party uprising began in 2009. The drama now will play out anew in the remaining Republican primary calendar.
Sort of obvious, but I am glad others are beginning to wake up and smell the frustration. BTW, the WSJ also garners the best summary of this primary election cycle:
As for the current GOP field, it’s like confronting a terminal diagnosis. There may be an apparent range of treatments: conventional (Romney), experimental (Gingrich), homeopathic (Paul) or prayerful (Santorum). But none will avail you in the end. Just try to exit laughing.
Sadly, I can’t laugh off this mess.A great opportunity ws offered up by the serial failures of Obama, Reid and Pelosi – only to squander it with The Damnable 4. – end update
No wonder Mitt Romney hesitated to disclose his income tax returns. Technically he does not work since nearly all his income is through investment profits:
Mitt Romney offered a partial snapshot of his vast personal fortune late Monday, disclosing income of $21.7 million in 2010 and $20.9 million last year — virtually all of it profits, dividends or interest from investments.
Emphasis mine. Clearly, this is not someone who represents Main Street. He is currently unemployed, but not in way that connects with Main Street. They guy is set for life and for generations to come. Must be nice. How do I get Big “FILL IN THE BLANK” out of my way so I too can reach my personal end of the rainbow?
Romney is not like Herman Cain, who worked his way from the lower middle class to the upper class. Cain is someone I can relate to and assume he understands how hard it is to break free of the legislative chains that hold entrepreneurs downs. Romney is a corporate raider who made millions the easy way – the Haarvaaard way. He bought out struggling companies, leveraged their assets with massive debt, took his profits and left ruin and destruction in his wake. I want no connection with him. I am a small business owner, not a corporate raider.
Romney is a vulture, not a creator. Vultures have their purpose in nature and economics, but they are not what someone wants in a national leader.Will he dismantle big government, or twist it to help Wall Street? Does he even understand what the average person has to deal with? Not likley.
Sacrifice? Others sacrificed for Romney to gain his riches.
Innovation? Others provided the core product and services for those rare instances when Bain turned a company around instead of using it as a vehicle to collect millions and then run (what a great ironic coincidence to have Mitt’s Bain actually be his political ‘bane’)
Olympic Savior? I guess if it were not for him none of those dedicated athletes would have been able to compete?
I hear echos of Al Gore and his infamous Internet every time Romney lays claim to Olympic success.
In this instance, Romney is the epitome of Bullying Big Business who likes to implement Big Government solutions when in office. So how is this model going to beat Big Government Obama and his Bullying Big Business connections???? This is just not computing. It definitely is not uplifting and energizing.
Romney is about as far from the Tea Party ideal candidate as you can get without being a liberal Democrat. The Tea Party is a Main Street USA (small business, not big business) phenomena. It is opposes Big Government and is barely tolerant of Big Business (and their hooks now embedded in our political process). The Tea Party movement also distrusts Big Labor. Big is bad – individual is good. Helping others is good, destruction and suffering is to be avoided at all costs.
The Tea Party is all about enabling the individual, protecting the small business from Big Labor, Big Government and Big Wall Street conglomerates. It is Libertarian movement.
It is not Romney. And that is why he is failing. The disconnect between the establishment candidate (Romney) and the 2010 electorate is wide and glaring. And that is why Newt is gaining. Because as far as he is from the Tea Party ideal, he is miles closer to the 2010 backlash voter than Romney ever will be.
Read the whole thing, not just the timeline. Read the double standard. Newt has serious personality issues.
http://www.thepoliticalguide.com/Profiles/House/Georgia/Newt_Gingrich/Scandals/Marital_Affairs/
Ok, I read the whole thing. Your quote is not in it. Quit making things up.
It isn’t the many, many affairs, heck, Lyndon Johnson had a “special” secretarial pool of women he was shagging. It is what Newt was saying while he was doing it. He was bringing down other Republicans, talking about family values, etc.
As for my comment about the office, it is my understanding that what started Newt’s unraveling in the House was when he was “surprised” in the Speakers Chambers by a staffer who caught Gingrich in a “compromising position” with an intern. So far this might just be hearsay as I am not finding a printed reference (yet). I heard this mentioned by two different people at two different times, both of them politically connected people. Nonetheless, he has admitted to carrying out at least two affairs and several women have come forward with similar stories. He apparently preferred things in that particular fashion for the same reason Bill Clinton did, according to women who have come forward.
But again, it isn’t the affairs, it is his double standard. The notion that HE doesn’t have to abide by the same rules as everyone, that he is above them, that the rules only apply to other people. That’s pretty typical behavior for people of certain personality types. One generally can’t change their entire personality. They can refrain from certain behaviors but a snake will always be a snake. Gingrich is a snake.
Redteam
Below is the Rubio story where he came out and vouched for Romney being a real conservative, saying that Romney was out at the getgo to support his candidacy against Crist.
Marco Rubio: Romney no Charlie Crist.
Also, it is common knowledge that Gingrich was messing around with Callista, at the same time he was busy impeaching Clinton for the same issues. It’s just a part of Newt’s hazy, crazy background.
Yet another look into the archives of Newt’s real actions as a real conservative, versus the tall tales he is telling to his rather gullible audience today.
Bold is my own accent.
Newt Gingrich rallied Freddie Mac’s troops
My worry about Newt isn’t about anything he’s saying right now. It’s that he’s about to say or do something so outrageously arrogant and irritating that it’s going to alienate everyone and destroy his support almost as quickly as he got it.
Why worry about that? Because he’s always done it in the past. Whenever he feels like he’s on top of the world, some little beeper inside his head goes off and…. BOOOM!!!! And we’re going to be the ones standing there looking like Yosemite Sam after Bugs Bunny gives him an exploding cee-gar. Newt pumps new life into the term “loose cannon”.
The problem for me, with Newt, is that I don’t trust him. I don’t believe I could ever trust him, no matter what he says, and I’m not real optimistic about the chances of convincing the country to trust him when I have to agree that they’d be fools to do so. And what would a campaign for him be like – “our lying scumbag is still better than your lying scumbag!” Not much to look forward to.
This doesn’t mean I’m wild about Romney – Newt’s done a good job of showing just how weak he is in a contested election. Santorum doesn’t have the money or the organization to compete much past Florida, and Ron Paul is the only man in America who could make Obama’s foreign policy look good by comparison. 4 years to figure out how to take on Obama and this is all we’ve got – pathetic.
I can’t believe we’re going to just hand this election to Obama. But it’s starting to look like we will.
Jan, The Clinton Impeachment was about “perjury” — not “having an affair”.
Crosspatch, I like Lt. Col Allen West also. He will be out there campaigning for whoever our candidate is — and he will be very effective. West hasn’t endorsed anyone, and doesn’t pretend to know how voters in Florida will vote next week either. However, he did say,
“Newt Best Suited To Communicate Conservatism To Black Community.”
http://patdollard.com/2012/01/allen-west-newt-best-suited-to-communicate-conservatism-to-black-community/
South Carolina Message — By Thomas Sowell
Quote:
excerpt:
The painful reality is that everyone in this year’s field of Republican candidates is a gamble. And re-electing Barack Obama is an even bigger gamble.
Whichever candidate the Republican voters finally choose from this year’s field, they are bound to have reservations, if not fears. Gingrich’s worst could be worse than Romney’s worst, both as a candidate and as a president. But Gingrich’s best is much better than Romney’s best.
Sometimes caution can be carried to the point where it is dangerous. When the Super Bowl is on the line, you don’t go with the quarterback who is least likely to throw an interception. You go with the one most likely to throw a touchdown pass.
http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell012412.php3
About the final four…..
That’s what they said in 1992
http://blogs.dailymail.com/donsurber/archives/50329#more-50329
“You think Newt’s past is a problem? Look at the problems of the leading Democratic contender 20 years ago. He was a serial adulterer and a draft dodger.”
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We’ll get through this. And, don’t forget that no matter who our final choice is…..he won’t be acting alone. He’ll have an army of great fighters like Lt. Col Allen West, Marco Rubio, Palin, Cain, Paul Ryan, etc all out there on the stump with them.
Romney and Gingrich are both flawed. But, they also both have great potential.
I think last night’s SOTU is a grave reminder of our responsibility in November of this year.
I don’t like Mitt’s plan for the space. If Newt’s plan is a redirection of the mission statement back to SPACE EXPLORATION, he may have my vote. Things aren’t going too well with the commercial space development and that’s based on a few conversations with my husband who deals with them on daily basis. Its viability is questionable. Its relationship with NASA is very shaky.
Frogg1, yeah, that’s what I’m thinking. I think Michelle Malkin nailed it…we MUST not only gain back the majority of the Senate but build a very strong conservative majority. Have good strong majorities in both houses with enough votes, especially 60 vote cloture will be in spite of who we put in the White House except for Obama. If Obama is re-elected, he will use his veto pen more often, which will make for another “do nothing” congress, disillusioning many Americans. This can certainly cause the Republicans to lose 2014 and 2016.
Obama must go and it doesn’t matter whether Newt or Mitt or Rick wins but we must vote for the GOP nominee.
http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/article/what-really-happened-gingrich-ethics-case/336051
The charges against Newt were bogus, trumped up by a sore loser and exactly the behavior I see on multiple blogs by the Romney fanboys and girls.
Newt was exonerated after being forced to plead guilty and resign! There was a power play within the Repunk Party and after Newt was drummed out the Big Spenders, The Good Old Party apparatus took over and returned to deficit spending!
Remember newt was attacking only Obama and the press until Mittens unleashed his 15 million in PAC funding in Iowa tanking Newts numbers by lying about newts record and the facts of his “fine”and leaving congress.
Now the inceesant whining when newt fights back!
Facts are interesting things, things the Establishment and the Romneybots don’t care to put forth!
After last nights class warfare State of the Obamnation I am more convinced than ever a Trust Fund Baby living off of trust fund interest will lose to the Rats and their water carriers The Presstitutes!
“Gingrich himself, not wanting to dredge up the whole ugly tale, said little about his exoneration. “I consider this a full and complete vindication,” he wrote in a brief statement. “I urge my colleagues to go back and read their statements and watch how they said them, with no facts, based on nothing more than a desire to politically destroy a colleague.”
Now, Gingrich is saying much the same thing in the face of Romney’s accusations. And despite the prominence of the matter in the GOP race, few outsiders seem inclined to dive back into the ethics matter to determine whether Gingrich deserves the criticism or not. But if Gingrich is to have any hope of climbing out from under the allegations, he’ll have to find some way of letting people know what really happened.”
Byron York my friends!
Mitt using this against Newt confirms Mitt Romney and the establishment are despicable Liars more concerned with electing a liberal, rich, Wall Street Fat Cat and marginalizing the Tea Party than what is good for the nation.
The GOP is asking for a third party run. I think it may be time to give them one.
Governor Palin your country needs you!
Call up Marco Rubio, Allen West, or Rudy Guilliani and save us from the Repunks. who by the way showed their cowardice again last night by being seated with their “friends” across the isle.
Every one of these clowns who participated in this exercise in all hail to the Lyin kING should be primaried.
Anyone under the delusion that should in some miracle of miracles the Repunks win the presiduncy that this practice would not end quicker than the demise of the stupid, insipid gang of 14?
Gingrich Frames the Debate
By PETER FERRARA on 1.25.12 @ 6:09AM
Before this campaign is over, America will know who Saul Alinsky is.
This is a good enough reason to support Newt. America needs to know who Obama is and why we should never elect another Obama.
Since someone mentioned it up-thread, this is what I said before about the electorate.
“The last time the “Unaddressed Right” had a Presidential candidate, his name was Ronald Reagan.
The last two times the “Unaddressed Right’s” vital interests were at stake at a national level during the Congressional midterms, were in 1994 and 2010, with the Assault Weapon Ban and Obamacare, respectively.
Now compare those three instances in American politics above to the the recent “Unaddressed Left” OWS protests.
This Presidential election the “Unaddressed Right” has the fear of Obama’s second term and the Tea Party banner to rally ’round.
And the only candidate on the Republican side that has been engaging the Tea Party on their issues has been Gingrich…who happened to be the demagogue leading the 1994 Republican take over of Congress.”
The thing about populist demagogues is that they make themselves the voice of the unexpressed, but deeply held, thoughts & feelings of those they represent.
What is dangerous is when those thoughts and feelings have been denegrated and made fun of for too long, the people just don’t care a fig about the character of demagogue. They want to hear what they want to hear from the man in power. For whom they will do anything to get into power.
Pres. Obama has taken us all there with Obamacare, labor regulation, environmental regulation and bowing to leftist litigation on pretty much everything.
That is why Gingrich is leading.
As a professional populist demegogue, we have always had a Janus/Jeckle&Hyde like image of Newt Gingrich.
There is NEWT — the professional politician who is “a weasel, adulter, with no ethics, unstable A-H”.
Then there is _Gingrich_ a somewhat conservative leader, with a deep historical/philisophical grounding in the words of the founding fathers. Who is well able to express those words to the American people.
The problem is if we elect Newt Gingrich President, we’ll get the former with the latter, a la Zaphod Beeblebrox.
Romney’s personal and family values, and his personal behavior, are WAY better than Gingrich’s. His political values are more Moderate Corporate empty suit than Bush 41’s.
Gingrich has political values, some of which are conservative, but does not let his political values of any sort get in the way of a good deal for himself.
I trust Romney as President to do the right thing as best he understands it…and his understanding is Blue-Moderate
I don’t trust NEWT at all, and that goes beyond his attention span.
However, as a Texan, I find Newt Gingrich to be a very familiar archtype.
Gingrich’s life story parallels that of Sam Houston in so many ways it is scary.
Gingrich, like Same Houston had three wives, had a late life religious conversion and was a typical Scots-Irish politician, AKA a weasel, adulter, with no ethics, unstable A-H.
And both were hated at the end of their life in the places where they lead successful revolutions.
Today Gingrich is hated by the current leadership of the Republican House, whose majority he created, they lost and the Tea Party returned to power.
Few people remember the fact that Sam Houston ended his life as a slave holding Unionist Governor, of a slave state, who unwilling to fight for his convictions, but told everyone to their face they were going to lose and lose badly if they joined the Confederacy.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Houston
I’ll vote for Gingrich over Obama, knowing that Gingrich will be a one-term-er for his erratic behavior.
That is a better choice than the certainty of further American decline under Obama.
“When the Super Bowl is on the line, you don’t go with the quarterback who is least likely to throw an interception. You go with the one most likely to throw a touchdown pass.”
Tell that to Rex Ryan and Mark Sanchez.
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/45841370/ns/sports-nfl/
Or Jerry Jones and Tony Romo – maybe the Dallas Cowboys this last year are the best analogy to the GOP today. They had great talent, a lot of support, and a lot of brilliant moments. But they specialized in doing something stupid in the 4th quarter of every important game, throwing the game and negating all the good they had done.
Case in point – on Dec. 11, they had a 12 point 4th quarter lead against the New York Giants, when a win would have eliminated NY from the playoffs completely. Dallas found a way to lose, and you know the rest. (most of their losses came when they had a 4th quarter lead, and usually involved Tony Romo interceptions)
That’s why the Giants are in the Superbowl, and why Dallas got to watch the postseason on TV like everyone else.
This thread sure has exploded over the last 12 hours!
Look, I’m not in love with Romney but I happen to think he has the best chance to beat Obama this November. If you disagree great. If you like a candidate make the case for him but be honest about his potential short comings. If you dislike a candidate criticize him for his record or his positions and be honest about his strenghts as well as what you see as his weaknesses. But please don’t channel Michael Moore to criticize Romney while at the same time calling yourself a conservative.
My number one goal is to get rid of Obama. I’ll support whoever is nominated to go against him. I’m just worried that if its Newt then he’ll pull off an October surprise – against himself.
Layman1
Newt is capable of daily small October Surprises. Just look at today’s Drudge headline offering Rubio’s terse repudiation of Gingrich’s claim about Romney’s immigation stance in an ad. It was pulled right after Rubio’s comments, similar to how Gingrich went nuclear on Bain, tearing capitalism apart in his effort to bring Romney down.
Gingrich is a Wm. Tecumsch Sherman, and will do a scorched earth campaign on not only dems, but also republicans, in order to land in the WH. It’s more about Newt than it is about the country. And, many have said that should he become the nominee, it will continue to be played as ‘being all about Newt’ rather than on policies or the direction this country should take.
I am sorry Rick Perry was such flop. He could have been “The” candidate. Not perfect, a decent man, but better than what we have.
This is really sad state of affairs. More Obama! Obama SCOTUS!
We need someone who will step up to the call someone that will put America ahead of family and personal concerns.
Brokered convention, yes!
“Newt’s done a good job of showing just how weak he is in a contested election. ” REALLY he was elected Rep 11 times.
jan, you pointed out that example about Newt. What about the statement of Romney that Newt ‘resigned in disgrace’. We all know that is just as untruthful. what I’m saying is they all say what they think will sell.
Just heard on Rush an evangelical state that if Newt is the nominee he won’t vote for him because of his “moral flaws”. On an earlier thread I had a lot of folks telling me that if Romney is the nominee they won’t vote for him because he’s not a “true conservative”.
People, I beg you, keep your eye on the prize: NO MORE OBAMA.