May 13 2006

From The Duh! Files

Published by at 12:05 pm under All General Discussions,The Duh! Files

Two Duh! Files in one day!  Liberal columnist Margaret Carlson has a new article out entitled:

What CIA needs is new president

Well Duh!  Why do you think they have been leaking national security details to the media?  They are trying to get Bush Impeached, since they couldn’t tip the election towards Kerry

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9 Responses to “From The Duh! Files”

  1. Snapple says:

    You know AJ, sometimes people who are crooks disguise themselves as Republicans so that they can claim they are being picked on by the left.

    Charles Keating the S and L crook comes to mind here.

    You seem to like Hayden. Kappes is his pick. His reputation is terrific. And he is not a partisan. He is a person who has demonstrated that he can run agents and expose spies. The Russians devoted their annual KGB Day to showing how they FINALLY lured back one of his agents to Russia. This was how the KGB tried to show they were good. Pitiful. Funny but pitiful.

    Kappes simply did not kow-tow to the demands of Goss’s aid, Mr. Murray, that information that would embarrass the Democrats should be declassified and leaked.

    He seems not to believe that the CIA is the sword and shield of the Republican Party.

    It is bad to leak–period. It is more important to keep our secrets than to score off our political opponents.

    Some very powerful people at CIA are under investigation. Hayden and Kappes are coming in. Stay tuned…

    If liberals are comfortable with Kappes it is not a bad thing. They will accept Hayden.

    I think this is going to be a good thing.

    There was a 5-minute standing ovation when Kappes left the Agency. He is so respected.

  2. Snapple says:

    AJ–

    Goss’s aid Patrick Murray threatened the CIA officer Mary Margaret Graham that she would be fired if sensitive information about Foggo leaked. She was accused of being a leaker.

    But if she was a leaker, why did she get an even better job working for Negroponte, the new Director of National Intelligence?

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/11/AR2006051101947.html

    This Murray was chummy with Foggo and protected him.
    Now Foggo is in a world of trouble and the supposed “leakers”
    are with Negroponte or possibly returning with Hayden.

    These are crooks who drove out good people, and now their day of reckoning has arrived. That’s what it seems like to me.

    The WP is usually a reliable source on these sorts of matters.

  3. roonent1 says:

    AJ,

    This is off topic but have you seen the latest jveritas translation at Free Republic about Iraq mobile labs in 2002?

    You can view it here:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1631022/posts

  4. Snapple says:

    Now that Goss is gone, his aid Patrick Murray is probably going down hard next.

    I think they will investigate him because he protected and advanced Foggo right from the start.

    When Goss came to the CIA, he brought this Patrick Murray. They wanted to promote Foggo to the #3 job, but he had some problems with some information in his file.

    When Murray saw the file, he told Foggo, “if this gets out, you will never get the job.”

    Murray told a CIA lady named Mary Margaret Graham that if the derogatory information in Foggo’s file leaked that she would be fired.

    She got mad and complained to her boss Sulick and he complained to his boss Kappes.

    There was a big fight and namecalling and throwing things.
    Murray demanded that Kappes fire Sulick and Kappes refused.

    Goss suggested moving Sulick to NYC but Kappes refused and Graham, Kappes and Sulick all quit.

    Now, Mary Margaret Graham is working in a high position for Negroponte, Kappes is probably coming back with Hayden.

    These were the so-called “liberal leakers.”

    The Murray guy, who also tried to make Kappes declassify and leak information derogatory to Democrats, will be the next to go.

    Patrick Murray was protecting and promoting Foggo, who was probably a huge crook who used his job to give contracts to his buds.

    Murray was not an intelligence expert; he was a Republican operative who tried to use the CIA against his party’s political enemies. And he protected Foggo, who is probably a huge crook, or worse.

    Now I don’t think that these Republicans served their President, and I think that Bush knows this. that is why Kappes is in and Foggo is out.

    Look for Murray to go down. To me, his protection of Foggo looks very suspicious.

    I am a Republican, but the CIA is not the sword and shield of the Republican Party. And Murray protected a crook.

    That’s why Goss is leaving. Now maybe this was some big trap that Goss helped set, and maybe he was part of it, or maybe he was clueless. I don’t know.

    But Kappes was not a left-wing leaker. That is all big fat lies from some crooks who didn’t want to get caught with their hands in the cookie jar.

    So who was the one loyal to the President? Kappes. Not Foggo or his protector Murray. They pretended to be loyal so they could use their position to be corrupt.

    That is my take on this. And I don’t think Kappes would be back if Bush didn’t want him.

  5. Snapple says:

    And another thing.

    If CIA officials can be bought by businesses or politicians, they can be bought by the enemy.

    Kappes isn’t for sale. Foggo and his protector Goss’ aid Patrick Murray probably were.

    And we will see about Goss.

  6. Snapple says:

    Here is an article that discusses some of the issues that may have been in Dusty Fogg’s personel file.

    It is perhaps from the left, but it is also probably the truth.
    They don’t need to make it up when the Republicans skrew up.

    Foggo was involved in gambling and prostitutes while he was posted abroad. This was not for operational purposes, but on his own time. He drew attention to himself and made himself a target of the Cubans and Soviets with his careless behavior.

    http://harpers.org/sb-dusty-foggo-21-20060513.html

    BEGIN QUOTE
    The sources said that Foggo was a regular at the Maya Hotel’s casino in Tegucigalpa; in 1993, the Chicago Tribune described the hotel as having once been “the unofficial headquarters for those who came here to help—or watch—the U.S. try to purge neighboring Nicaragua and El Salvador of communist threats.” Foggo, said my sources, was also a regular at a local bar named Gloria’s, which one source said was chiefly known for having “a brisk hooker trade.” While my sources had no direct knowledge of Foggo consorting with prostitutes, several said that simply being at a place like Gloria’s was deemed to be a serious security problem and that Foggo’s nocturnal habits were a source of great concern within the local CIA station. Foggo, said one source, was “capable in the field but lacked a moral compass.” This source explained that working for the agency overseas “already puts you in a difficult position . . . [because] part of your job might involve violating the laws of the country you’re in. You don’t put a red light on your head by going to places where there’s gambling and hookers—it’s a stupid risk.”

    “He was a logistics guy,” said one source about Foggo, “not a spy. Any time he was spending there was personal business, not for the CIA.”

    Beyond drawing attention to himself, Foggo’s nightlife also raised concerns from a counterintelligence standpoint because of the risk that he could be entrapped by the Russians and their allies. “During the coldest days of the Cold War,” said another agency official, “hookers and casino employees were exactly the type of people we wanted on our payroll, and so did the KGB.”

    “Gloria’s was a ticking bomb,” said the source cited above. “There were a lot of Cuban women there and you had to be mindful that you might be set up.” This person said that before he was sent to Tegucigalpa, his boss at the CIA gave him a “fire-breathing” lecture about staying far away from spots like Gloria’s. “He [told me], ‘If you get into trouble down there, you make sure you get killed because I’ll kill you otherwise.’” (It should be noted that, according to my sources, Foggo was not the only American intelligence officer who frequented the Tegucigalpa nightspots named above.)

    (see more at link)

  7. Snapple says:

    Here is an article about Foggo’s behavior abroad. This is probably the kind of information that Murray tried to keep secret so that Foggo could become the #3. (I tried to post this before, but it didn’t work.)

    Foggo was involved with gambling and prostitutes while abroad, but this was not part of his mission. He was a logistics guy.

    The article may be a bit from the left, but I don’t think they need to lie when the Republicans skrew up and hand them this on a platter.
    He was hanging out at places where the Cubans and the Russians are sniffing around for agents.

    http://harpers.org/sb-dusty-foggo-21-20060513.html

    Begin Quote:
    The sources said that Foggo was a regular at the Maya Hotel’s casino in Tegucigalpa; in 1993, the Chicago Tribune described the hotel as having once been “the unofficial headquarters for those who came here to help—or watch—the U.S. try to purge neighboring Nicaragua and El Salvador of communist threats.” Foggo, said my sources, was also a regular at a local bar named Gloria’s, which one source said was chiefly known for having “a brisk hooker trade.” While my sources had no direct knowledge of Foggo consorting with prostitutes, several said that simply being at a place like Gloria’s was deemed to be a serious security problem and that Foggo’s nocturnal habits were a source of great concern within the local CIA station. Foggo, said one source, was “capable in the field but lacked a moral compass.” This source explained that working for the agency overseas “already puts you in a difficult position . . . [because] part of your job might involve violating the laws of the country you’re in. You don’t put a red light on your head by going to places where there’s gambling and hookers—it’s a stupid risk.”

    “He was a logistics guy,” said one source about Foggo, “not a spy. Any time he was spending there was personal business, not for the CIA.”

    Beyond drawing attention to himself, Foggo’s nightlife also raised concerns from a counterintelligence standpoint because of the risk that he could be entrapped by the Russians and their allies. “During the coldest days of the Cold War,” said another agency official, “hookers and casino employees were exactly the type of people we wanted on our payroll, and so did the KGB.”

    “Gloria’s was a ticking bomb,” said the source cited above. “There were a lot of Cuban women there and you had to be mindful that you might be set up.” This person said that before he was sent to Tegucigalpa, his boss at the CIA gave him a “fire-breathing” lecture about staying far away from spots like Gloria’s. “He [told me], ‘If you get into trouble down there, you make sure you get killed because I’ll kill you otherwise.’” (It should be noted that, according to my sources, Foggo was not the only American intelligence officer who frequented the Tegucigalpa nightspots named above.)

  8. Snapple says:

    http://harpers.org/sb-dusty-foggo-21-20060513.html

    The post isn’t working. Here is information about Foggo’s reckless behavior abroad.

  9. Snapple says:

    Well, it seems that Larry Johnson the VIPS is sticking up for Foggo but not for Murray.

    Johnson brushes off the HUGE investigation of Foggo but says that Patrick Murray and Brant Bassett were being looked at for poker parties and other things he doesn’t say.

    So perhaps Murray and Bassett, the two Goss aids, are in trouble.

    Lary Johnson trashes Hayden as “General Mike ‘What Fourth Amendment’ Hayden.”

    See “The Foggo of War.”
    http://www.tpmcafe.com/node/29798

    And he is accusing Bush of destroying the CIA and of being the Grandson of Josef Stalin.

    And this guy was in the CIA for only four years, right? So why is he some expert?