Comments on: Haditha Uncovered

By: clarice

clarice — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 02:42:51 +0000

Hugh Hewitt notes that Haditha is not the only case under investigation where Murtha has pre judged the conduct of servicemen and blabbed to the press about it. He concludes:
“Even if charges are brought against Marines in both Haditha and Hamandiya and convictions secured, Congressman Murtha’s conduct that has prejudged these men will always remain an outrageous political intervention into the military’s criminal justice system. If any of those implicated by Murtha are not charged, or are charged and acquited, Murtha’s conduct will be revealed as disgraceful. ”

http://hughhewitt.com/archives/2006/06/11-week/index.php#a002409

By: A Lady's Ruminations

A Lady's Ruminations — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:26:39 +0000

Whatever Happened to…

The MSM likes to prate on about how people we know to have committed heinous crimes, like Tookie Williams, are innocent until proven guilty. And, even when that person is found guilty (as sin) by a jury of his peers, the MSM still treats him as thoug…..

By: thromnewton

thromnewton — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:41:51 +0000

Good Captain makes an excellent point: Troops going berserk do just that…they do not stop fighting and begin systematic executions which are preceded by calmly tying the hands of those to be killed. This seems much more like a thorough, “professional” process. I must confess that while I don’t know what happened at Racak (1/15/99) this story has many parallels, not the least of which is a compromised “crime” scene.

By: crosspatch

crosspatch — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 05:30:20 +0000

Is the AP now in the business of reporting anything anyone says about any event without doing some rudimentary investigation first?

Only when the information is negative toward the current administration, a Republican, the Republican Party, or the war effort. Other than those cases, no. They check out dirt on Democrats six ways to Sunday … if they report it at all.

By: clarice

clarice — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 05:24:01 +0000

As to that crap AP story, Ed Morrissey shows why it was impossible. He concludes:
Capt. Ed Morrissey notes why the story was impossible. He concludes:The logistics of the site appear determinative that the residents of the village could not have seen any of what transpired at the safe house. The sequence of events show that the US had timed their raid for maximum security and efficiency, and that the ground forces of Iraqi and American troops would have acted immediately to secure this very remote site to ensure no one escaped. The AP apparently didn’t read the Reuters description of the attack site before publishing this uncorroborated account of a supposed atrocity.

Is the AP now in the business of reporting anything anyone says about any event without doing some rudimentary investigation first? We call that gossip, not news, and we expect better than a National Enquirer standard at the AP.

http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/007178.php

By: The Real Ugly American.com

The Real Ugly American.com — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:16:02 +0000

More on Haditha…

AJ Strata has another development in the Haditha story. While the story does cite a Reuters camerman. I do not see who actually filed this story in the link provided nor can I determine if the Reuters camerman was an eyewitness or just reporting what h…

By: For Enforcement

For Enforcement — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:14:36 +0000

So American troops, as seen by an “unidentified source” beat him on the head. First I’m sure the local Iraqi’s were running away from the bomb blast, not to it.
But in that story I found this:
“One insurgent group, Ansar al-Sunnah, posted a gruesome video showing militants interrogating and then beheading three Iraqis said to be members of a Shiite “death squad” that killed Sunnis.”

So now I’m gonna go out on a limb and say, was the “unidentified source” saying we should’ve been sawing his head off, not beating him. because that’s the Iraqi way?

Well it certainly would have been fitting But and it’s a big BUT, IT’S NOT THE AMERICAN WAY.

By: crosspatch

crosspatch — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 00:11:00 +0000

That is a big problem, MFS. It seems the media has become an active enemy of the United States. They expose intelligence programs and methods. They expose sources of information to the government to include giving out names and showing pictures of the faces of snitches while being careful to protect their own sources. They are quick to publish unconformed bad news, slow to report good news if they report it at all.

The media has decided to become an active combatant in a support role for the terrorists. They are the intelligence and psyops arm of al Qaeda at this point. It is time to start jailing editors who decide to publish such detailed information. Then we can go after the leakers to the reporters and finally the reporters themselves. I hold the editors more responsible than the reporters, though. A reporter is trying to advance their career, it is the editor that decides what goes on page one or gets buried in the middle of the section. The reporter is responding the desires of their employer that sets the standard for what is the most desired content.

It’s time for editors to be held responsible.

By: Mark_for_Senate

Mark_for_Senate — Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:12:41 +0000

Six or seven years ago I used to think our Government was hopelessly corrupt. I believe it still has its problems, but over-all is still functioning in the best interest of ‘the people’. I believe GWB is a major factor in this ‘clean-up’. I now believe we (USA) have a far more serious problem; that being a hopelessly corrupt ‘free press’, namely the MSM and print services like AP, Reuters, etc. I now believe that they are a far more dangerous and cancerous long-term problem than corrupt members of our government. There are Constitutional provisions to ‘fix’ corrupt government. There are not these provisions to ‘fix’ a corrupt free press, other than the free market. I suggest that instead of writing to your Congress people, the solution lies in writing to heads of all major corporations to eliminate the advertising dollars to “news” companies such as NYT, ABC, CBS NBC, MSNBC, CNN, AP and Reuters. Drying up the funding for terrorist organizations is having a noticable effect. The same tactics need to be used against the MSM. There are alternatives for advertising, and probably less expensive in the long run! The current MSM is evil, and must be destroyed!

By: jwm4

jwm4 — Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:12:34 +0000

With a hat tip to Sweetness & Light, Clarice Feldman puts the whole story together regarding the possibility of Haditha as a another CBS/Mary Mapes type hoax in this post/essay at The American Thinker – http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=5566.

By: sbd

sbd — Sat, 10 Jun 2006 21:24:50 +0000

Earlier, Iraqi Security Forces discovered an insurgent propaganda center in Haditha.

Emphasis Mine

Marine Corps Times October 24, 2005 Monday
SECTION: FAST TRACK; Pg. 9
LENGTH: 632 words
HEADLINE: Around the Corps

BODY: Iraq RCT–2 links car bomb to video evidence Members of Regimental Combat Team 2 found a video camera in the possession of three men stopped at a vehicle checkpoint northeast of Haditha, Iraq, on Oct. 12, according to a 2nd Marine Division news release. Minutes later, a similar white, four–door sedan approached the checkpoint. U.S. forces guarding the checkpoint used hand and arm gestures to signal the vehicle to stop, but the car continued to accelerate toward the checkpoint, even after warning shots were fired, according to the release. The vehicle detonated shortly after the first shots were fired, killing the driver.

When the video camera was inspected, it yielded several minutes of footage showing one of the men from the first sedan speaking to the driver of the car that detonated. The Marines said videotaping suicide car bombings is an insurgent propaganda tactic used to spread fear and intimidate Iraqi citizens.

Earlier, Iraqi Security Forces discovered an insurgent propaganda center in Haditha. The site raided by Iraqi forces included “numerous prepared al–Qaida in Iraq compact discs and audio tapes, three computers, several printers, banner makers, multi–disk copiers and thousands of [blank] disks and tapes,” according to an Oct. 10 Stars and Stripes newspaper report.

SBD

By: bloodyspartan

bloodyspartan — Sat, 10 Jun 2006 21:05:35 +0000

As again this BS unravels I ask.

Why were our troops forced to undergo training under this BS Flimsy excuse?

Who the hell is in charge and instituted that so called Seminar Training without giving our future the benefit of the doubt.

It is the simple things that matter to our military yet when we should love them to death we give them doubts. ..What hurts them more.

Iraq’s hardships or our lack of faith.

By: Good Captain

Good Captain — Sat, 10 Jun 2006 20:34:49 +0000

The item from the original set of MSM stories that suggested that this was not done by our troops was the indications that they were killed close range execution style. The image this concept gives me is a close shot to the head type of picture which (if correct) is unlike that of a small unit gone beserk. Instead it would indicative of a “professional” or experienced executioner.

I guess we’ll get better indications soon.

By: crosspatch

crosspatch — Sat, 10 Jun 2006 20:07:07 +0000

Another source for people digging into old stories would be news.ask.com which sometimes has articles that don’t appear for whatever reason in a google news search. For example, going to news.ask.com and giving the following search:

haditha beforedate:20060101

Would pull up articles before Jan 1 of this year.

By: crosspatch

crosspatch — Sat, 10 Jun 2006 18:47:21 +0000

And one more thing. Google:

â€œInstitute for War and Peaceâ€+â€Fenton Communicationsâ€

and

â€œHuman Rights Watchâ€+â€Fenton Communicationsâ€

and it becomes no wonder jounralists got this story so neatly packaged up for them and dropped into their lap. It’s the same old usual suspects playing the same old usual game. And the reporters buy it hook, line, and sinker every darned time.