Jun 17 2006
Democrats Will Slander For Votes
We know they take bribes (William Jefferson), and we know they mollest their young interns (William Jefferson Clinton). We know they will run from votes they cannot win (Texas State Democrats), and we know they will slander Reps and bring up trumped up charges (too numerous to list).
And now we know Democrats have moved beyond spitting on Boy Scouts at their conventions (which is an age old tradition rooted in spitting on Vietnam soldiers) to slandering our brave men and women who are risking life and limb in defense of this country:
Attorney Neal A. Puckett told The Washington Times that Gen. Michael Hagee, the Marine commandant, briefed Rep. John P. Murtha, Pennsylvania Democrat, on the Nov. 19 killings of 24 Iraqis in the town north of Baghdad. Mr. Murtha later told reporters that the Marines were guilty of killing the civilians in “cold blood.†Mr. Murtha said he based his statement on Marine commanders, whom he did not identify.
If Murtha cared about our military, he would not have tajen rumours like this on face value and ran (and I mean ran) to the cameras to slander them as he did. As I told Clarice when she emailed an alert on this article, it seems there is no low Dems won’t go to win a leadership position. And yes, Murtha is in line for a House Chairmanship if the Democrats win control this fall.
Murtha, it seems, will step on anyone to get a raise.
Murtha has expressed the desire to achieve the number two position in the house if the Dems prevail in the November elections.
I have to agree with him somehow, he really deserves a lot of number two.
Slam bamm and walking away with just a little bit of swagger to my step.
What joys will tomorrow bring?
Does anyone have the full story (or at least, confirmable details) of Murtha’s flirtation with corruption charges stemming from defense contractor(s) kick-backs for his congressional support?
If true, that would at least make sense of his 180 degree turn against all things US Military, keeping himself and relatives out of public disgrace at best, penitentiary stints at worst.
His ugly rhetoric, according to this theory, prevents Republicans from raising corruption charges which would be countered with claims the allegations are baseless retribution for his “speaking truth to…” (you know the drill).
From what I have heard none of the Marine commanders in a position to know what happened at Haditha have ever called this cold blooded murder. I did hear the military finished its report, it is thousands of pages long and it is going to be sent to command.
But if any of these people have gone public with that statement I have not heard it. So it makes you wonder what Murtha really heard, if anything. Whatever the case is he was willing to pass judgment without giving due process to these men. Now if they were detainees at Gitmo, he would not be so ready to pass judgment on their “alleged” misdeeds, but they are only US Marines fighting a war. So who cares? Certainly not Murtha the mouth.
Murtha was one of the figures that caught on to the potential scam in the ABSCAM debacle. He was tefloned in that inquirery, and has been clean since as best as I can tell.
Still his being one of the targets of the investigation, despite his maneuver, says a lot. It doesn’t say it loudly but it does give you pause.
I don’t deminish Murtha because of legal potentialities, I conflict with him becuase of his political positioning. A much different animal.
The guy is walking a limb, it risks at any time being cut off beyond him. Not a nice place to be in.
Politics as usual…film at 11
Merry: see also the noagenda.org site, click on pelosi and scroll down articles on the left for one Murtha ethics question.
Oops–on the right. sorry.
Terrye
No commanders would have made such a statement , this would encompase the doctrine of unlawful command influence of a UCMJ investigation. That principle goes all the way to the top of the military chain of command , ie. GWB. A defense lawyer for some of the troops says he want’s to call Murtha to testify about this. Either someone erred in this assessment to Murtha or Murtha is lying…either situation good for the defense and bad for Murtha.
Thank you, AZ Red — I thought it was on Dr. Sanity that I had picked up the Murtha/corruption thing, but checking back couldn’t find it; I’ll check the noagenda site, should be interesting.
Merlin, wasn’t Abscam a 1970s “sting” using phoney Arab sheiks and some payola scam? Murtha would’ve been a newbie, or not yet in Congress? Or has my running out of Ginko Biloba done something strange to my memory bank (so many scandals, hard to keep track)?
MerryJ1
Yup you are right and this was “revisited” by some sites in view of Murtha’s pronouncements. He was not charged because of the way he worded his reply to the bribe attempt…but he was there.
MerryJ1
quick google for the info, should have known it would hit wikipedia first
The FBI agents also attempted to bribe US Senator Larry Pressler (R-SD), but he clearly and quickly refused the bribe offer, as did Congressman William Hughes (D-NJ) and Congressman Jack Murtha (D-PA).
Also the article notes it was 1978
Oh, you mean like House Republicans on immigration reform? This stupidity isn’t limited to Democrats. I think they suck your brain out through your nose as part of your orientation at Congress.
Thanks, Merlin. 1978, Murtha would’ve been in Congress for about 4 years, and that sounds like he was clean then. That’s not the corruption case I meant, though — this has to do with his — I think, brother-in-law’s consulting firm as a conduit for defense contractor money, with Murtha voting on legislation of interest to the contractors.
Pelosi & family members seem to be also within the same circle, and the noagenda.org site hits on some of that. Thanks again, good site.
Sorry, the above posting was supposed to start with the following quote:
I believe it is his brother, not brother-in-law and the name of his outfit is KSA Consulting.
Note this thread at Free Republic that appeared the day after Murtha made his speech. The information in the article obviously took time to research and one must expect that whispers of this potential ethics investigation had to have been wafting though the House for some time before this date.
There’s lots more info around too.
Here is a link to the original LA Times article that someone copied into their blog.
Here is a link to the original.
You know, if you spend an hour or so reading all the links provided in the comments above(which I did) The first reaction that comes to mind is “God help us”
I’m not a crook, but is there ANY politician(I’m also not a politician) in the U.S. that is NOT a crook? Does any politician have any relatives that are not crooks?
I worked for 50 years of my life, the last 20 or so in the top 2% of wage earners in the U.S. and it is my observation that there are many thousands of people that make way more money than “wage earners”. Since they are not being paid a salary by a company, where are they making their money. Well, reading those links give you a good idea that a substantial amount of it is not coming by “honest” means. And i’m not talking about the bank robbers and drug dealers. Just think of the implications from just a tax standpoint. If most money in this country is being handled in the black market, for example, somebody hands a lobbiest $100,000 under the table. Do you suppose he pays income tax or F’ICA on that money? Now I’m not naive enough to think that these practices are going to stop, because for every loop hole that gets patched, probably 2 or 3 open up. I don’t think there is a solution, maybe that’s why I get that feeling of ‘GOD HELP US’
You called it, FE. It’s a cesspool, and at some point, we’re going to have to drain the swamp without regard to “Party” tags.
There is one potential if partial remedy, I think, in the Fair Tax Act proposal, but that was completely ignored by President Bush’s committee or commission to study and recommend changes to tax policies (even though Bush specifically asked them to look at it).
The Act wouldn’t stop crooks from being crooks, but it would bring the entire underground economy into the tax base, and it would unleash the full dynamic potential of unfettered capitalism. And, since it repeals the 16th Amendment and abolishes the IRS along with the entire current federal tax system, there’s a huge downsizing of federal government built in.
It started getting a little bit of traction a couple of years ago (2004, before the election), but the usual suspects seem to have squashed it. Saxby Chamblis was pushing the House version, and radio talk show host Neal Boortz co-authored a book with, I think, the US Senator who wrote that version (name eludes – I’m going to have to break down and get a bottle of Ginko Biloba).
Congress will never get rid of the income tax system for a few reasons. First of all, it is a method for them to jail criminals when little other evidence can be found. Al Capone was sent to Alcatraz on tax violations.
Secondly, it allows members of Congress to play favorites among various industries. This results in a lot of campaign funding when various changes are being considered. Certain industries might be given certain tax advantages, for example.
I would suggest a hybrid approach. I would keep an income tax system for business but make it very simple. It would be a gross receipts tax. So, for example, you take a certian percentage of your gross and send it to the treasury.
As for people, yeah, just make a sales tax. The result would be a great expansion of our economy. All investments would be “tax free”. There would be no reason for 401K’s , Roth IRAs, IRAs, etc. You could put your money where you want it and pay the tax when you spend it. Of course there would be a huge outcry from companies that collect management fees from these kinds of accounts but the efficiencies created by not sihponing off people’s money would eventually cause more economic growth as people would have more money to spend on other things (which would be taxed when they spend it).