Comments on: Democrat’s Shade Truth On FISA-NSA http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2534 High Flying Political Debate Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:03:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: MerlinOS2 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2534/comment-page-1#comment-19032 MerlinOS2 Fri, 22 Sep 2006 22:56:47 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2534#comment-19032 Retired Spook Check out the latest from Hayden over at the CounterTerrorism Blog http://counterterrorismblog.org/2006/09/an_important_step_at_the_cia.php Retired Spook

Check out the latest from Hayden over at the CounterTerrorism Blog

http://counterterrorismblog.org/2006/09/an_important_step_at_the_cia.php

]]> By: MerlinOS2 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2534/comment-page-1#comment-19028 MerlinOS2 Fri, 22 Sep 2006 22:38:44 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2534#comment-19028 Retired Spook Seems some are already picking up on little oops stuff in the report. See the latest post at abledanger blog. One thing also about the situation, is that there were several datamining operations going on in parallel. The focus here is on the ATTA op, but there was also one on China working at the same time with it's possiblity of coming up with some damning info about ChinaGate. I have seen some speculation that the original target was to take down the work on china but the atta work was also hit as collateral damage so as to not see how much the focus was to taking out the china looksee. Retired Spook

Seems some are already picking up on little oops stuff in the report.

See the latest post at abledanger blog.

One thing also about the situation, is that there were several datamining operations going on in parallel. The focus here is on the ATTA op, but there was also one on China working at the same time with it’s possiblity of coming up with some damning info about ChinaGate. I have seen some speculation that the original target was to take down the work on china but the atta work was also hit as collateral damage so as to not see how much the focus was to taking out the china looksee.

]]> By: Retired Spook http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2534/comment-page-1#comment-19019 Retired Spook Fri, 22 Sep 2006 21:31:16 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2534#comment-19019 The GOP needs a Harrison Ford type character (Air Force One) to run in 2008 on a platform of "cleaning house" in the State Department and the various Intelligence Agencies. I kind of thought that's what Porter Goss was going to do at CIA, but we all know how well that worked out, and we haven't heard a peep out of Hayden since he was confirmed. Actually, one of the worst offenders, IMO, is the DIA. The GOP needs a Harrison Ford type character (Air Force One) to run in 2008 on a platform of “cleaning house” in the State Department and the various Intelligence Agencies. I kind of thought that’s what Porter Goss was going to do at CIA, but we all know how well that worked out, and we haven’t heard a peep out of Hayden since he was confirmed. Actually, one of the worst offenders, IMO, is the DIA.

]]> By: For Enforcement http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2534/comment-page-1#comment-18978 For Enforcement Fri, 22 Sep 2006 17:45:39 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2534#comment-18978 The democrats have never been serious about Terrorism, when The Repubs took over the Senate under Reagan they had a subcommittee on Terrorism and Security, the minute the Dems took over the Senate again in 1987, that was among the first committee that went out of business. The democrats have never been serious about Terrorism, when The Repubs took over the Senate under Reagan they had a subcommittee on Terrorism and Security, the minute the Dems took over the Senate again in 1987, that was among the first committee that went out of business.

]]> By: carol johnson http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2534/comment-page-1#comment-18972 carol johnson Fri, 22 Sep 2006 17:14:40 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2534#comment-18972 "Carol, I couldn’t agree more. Any ideas? A military coup, maybe? Heh, just kidding." ..... I am of the "rip the damn bandage off quickly and maybe take a little skin with it, than the death by a thousand cuts approach" As long as we are "comfortable" with the way things are, the longer this will continue. That said, I am sure there are a zillion things going on behind the scenes that neither you nor I know about. Doesn't make it any less frustrating though. Roger on the mold comparison! LOL. Carol “Carol, I couldn’t agree more. Any ideas? A military coup, maybe? Heh, just kidding.”

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I am of the “rip the damn bandage off quickly and maybe take a little skin with it, than the death by a thousand cuts approach”

As long as we are “comfortable” with the way things are, the longer this will continue. That said, I am sure there are a zillion things going on behind the scenes that neither you nor I know about. Doesn’t make it any less frustrating though.

Roger on the mold comparison! LOL.

Carol

]]> By: Retired Spook http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2534/comment-page-1#comment-18965 Retired Spook Fri, 22 Sep 2006 15:56:25 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2534#comment-18965 <i>We gotta put a stop to this or it will only get worse the next time some “bureaucrat” looks around for someone to blame for the next attack!!</i> Carol, I couldn't agree more. Any ideas? A military coup, maybe? Heh, just kidding. I do think that there are probably hundreds, if not thousands, of bureaucrats in our government that should either be in Leavenworth or, at the very least, fired. Sadly I think that our government is just so big and cumbersome that it breeds incompetence like mold in a damp basement. The bureaucratic layers are so thick, correcting the problem/s would be like pealing a very, very large onion -- tears and all. We gotta put a stop to this or it will only get worse the next time some “bureaucrat” looks around for someone to blame for the next attack!!

Carol, I couldn’t agree more. Any ideas? A military coup, maybe? Heh, just kidding.

I do think that there are probably hundreds, if not thousands, of bureaucrats in our government that should either be in Leavenworth or, at the very least, fired. Sadly I think that our government is just so big and cumbersome that it breeds incompetence like mold in a damp basement. The bureaucratic layers are so thick, correcting the problem/s would be like pealing a very, very large onion — tears and all.

]]> By: carol johnson http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2534/comment-page-1#comment-18960 carol johnson Fri, 22 Sep 2006 15:26:37 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2534#comment-18960 Yup...we have come to a sad state of affairs when our fighting men and women have to stop, in the middle of combat, and hire a "lawyer" to CLARIFY their mission for them! This is an outrageously dangerous and idiotic way to fight a war! Retired...I read the same Able Danger blog on what Weldon thinks. Gotta agree with him. The bureaucrats in the Pentagon are fighting against our military and treating them as liars and scapegoats for their own gross incompetence. We gotta put a stop to this or it will only get worse the next time some "bureaucrat" looks around for someone to blame for the next attack!! Carol Yup…we have come to a sad state of affairs when our fighting men and women have to stop, in the middle of combat, and hire a “lawyer” to CLARIFY their mission for them! This is an outrageously dangerous and idiotic way to fight a war!

Retired…I read the same Able Danger blog on what Weldon thinks. Gotta agree with him. The bureaucrats in the Pentagon are fighting against our military and treating them as liars and scapegoats for their own gross incompetence. We gotta put a stop to this or it will only get worse the next time some “bureaucrat” looks around for someone to blame for the next attack!!

Carol

]]> By: az redneck http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2534/comment-page-1#comment-18959 az redneck Fri, 22 Sep 2006 14:44:02 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2534#comment-18959 And the 2nd article AJ quotes above shows that problems with 'the wall' continue within DOJ as well. As a JOM reader noted re: Plamegate, all of the top officials even marginally involved with the Plame investigation in State, CIA and DOJ are now gone. All of this indicates a problem worse than incompetence. CYA of course, but also left-leaning officials populating all of our agencies continue to give Bush policies fits. Shakespere gave us good advice about lawyers! And the 2nd article AJ quotes above shows that problems with ‘the wall’ continue within DOJ as well.
As a JOM reader noted re: Plamegate, all of the top officials even marginally involved with the Plame investigation in State, CIA and DOJ are now gone. All of this indicates a problem worse than incompetence. CYA of course, but also left-leaning officials populating all of our agencies continue to give Bush policies fits.
Shakespere gave us good advice about lawyers!

]]> By: Retired Spook http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2534/comment-page-1#comment-18956 Retired Spook Fri, 22 Sep 2006 14:22:56 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2534#comment-18956 <i>This is SO frustrating!!</i> That's the understatement of the year, Carol. I haven't read <a href="http://www.abledangerblog.com/IGReport.pdf" rel="nofollow">the entire report yet</a> but I read Congressman Weldon's response over at <a href="http://www.abledangerblog.com/2006/09/weldon-blasts-back-at-deceptive-ig.html" rel="nofollow">Able Danger Blog</a>. It amazes me, with all the incompetence and CYA going on in the DOD and related intelligence agencies, that we haven't been hit again in the last 5 years. This is SO frustrating!!

That’s the understatement of the year, Carol. I haven’t read the entire report yet but I read Congressman Weldon’s response over at Able Danger Blog.

It amazes me, with all the incompetence and CYA going on in the DOD and related intelligence agencies, that we haven’t been hit again in the last 5 years.

]]> By: bRight & Early http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2534/comment-page-1#comment-18954 bRight & Early Fri, 22 Sep 2006 13:55:57 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2534#comment-18954 <strong>First Cup 09.22.06...</strong> Black as the devil, hot as hell, pure as an angel, sweet as love. ~ Talleyrand ...... First Cup 09.22.06…

Black as the devil, hot as hell, pure as an angel, sweet as love. ~ Talleyrand

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]]> By: carol johnson http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2534/comment-page-1#comment-18953 carol johnson Fri, 22 Sep 2006 13:49:04 +0000 http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2534#comment-18953 Excellent, AJ! Although, it will probably fall on some deaf ears even now. Did you also hear about a Pentagon report that came out basically investigating itself in the Able Danger situation (Mohammed Atta...WHAT Mohammed Atta?) Of course, they gave themselves a huge pass on whether or not AD could have stopped 9/11! This is SO frustrating!! Curt Weldon is beside himself...but, more to the point, WE SHOULD ALL BE! As long as we have career bureaucrats in the Intelligence Community, the Pentagon and elsewhere, we will be faced with CYA as a legitimate defense for total incompetence. /rant off/ Carol Excellent, AJ! Although, it will probably fall on some deaf ears even now.

Did you also hear about a Pentagon report that came out basically investigating itself in the Able Danger situation (Mohammed Atta…WHAT Mohammed Atta?) Of course, they gave themselves a huge pass on whether or not AD could have stopped 9/11! This is SO frustrating!! Curt Weldon is beside himself…but, more to the point, WE SHOULD ALL BE! As long as we have career bureaucrats in the Intelligence Community, the Pentagon and elsewhere, we will be faced with CYA as a legitimate defense for total incompetence.

/rant off/

Carol

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