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		<title>By: For Enforcement</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2547/comment-page-2#comment-19478</link>
		<dc:creator>For Enforcement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 23:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken,  how are things there in France?

&quot;For Enforcement hasnâ€™t heard about the leaked intelligence report.&quot;
you did of course mean to say, the &#039;partial leaked intel report&#039;, by the MSM, which is suffering with BDS, same as you.

But Pres Bush has told them to release the remainder of it, which it is said, will paint a 180 picture.

Ken, who is doing the survey&#039;s over there?
What kind of question are they  asking?
Since we no longer have a murdering dictator, have you now joined a Jihadist terror organization?

Since we no longer have Saddam, would you prefer we restore him or live under the government we now have?

Do you prefer the Americans to Saddam?

Are you in favor of Iraqi&#039;s murdering Americans?

And you&#039;re saying they are 90% answering in the affirmative?
yea..... right.......

Is it the MSM conducting these scientific polls or is it the NeoLibs?

Give our regards to Jacque.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken,  how are things there in France?</p>
<p>&#8220;For Enforcement hasnâ€™t heard about the leaked intelligence report.&#8221;<br />
you did of course mean to say, the &#8216;partial leaked intel report&#8217;, by the MSM, which is suffering with BDS, same as you.</p>
<p>But Pres Bush has told them to release the remainder of it, which it is said, will paint a 180 picture.</p>
<p>Ken, who is doing the survey&#8217;s over there?<br />
What kind of question are they  asking?<br />
Since we no longer have a murdering dictator, have you now joined a Jihadist terror organization?</p>
<p>Since we no longer have Saddam, would you prefer we restore him or live under the government we now have?</p>
<p>Do you prefer the Americans to Saddam?</p>
<p>Are you in favor of Iraqi&#8217;s murdering Americans?</p>
<p>And you&#8217;re saying they are 90% answering in the affirmative?<br />
yea&#8230;.. right&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Is it the MSM conducting these scientific polls or is it the NeoLibs?</p>
<p>Give our regards to Jacque.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2547/comment-page-2#comment-19445</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 18:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iraq is 90% against America and it is amazing from that narrow vantage how little has changed since the Saddam era. Iraq has and had ,say, in 1993, about 10% westernized &quot;Iraq the Model&quot; type citizens, who have been educated here and/or who relate to the West in a &quot;modern&quot; manner. The remainder are varying secular
anti-Westerners (eg Baathists) and religious anti-Westerners
(eg Sistani/Al Sadr Shias ). Of course by &quot;anti-West&quot; I do not
mean chomping-at-the-bit-to-war-against-the-West, just to avoid puppet government Bush wishes them to live under.


Most Iraqis approve of insurgent attacks against American
troops, Strata, provided the attacks don&#039;t endanger Iraqis.
And you shoud be familiar with the guerilla warfare studies
that show a  minimum significant proportion of locals must actively oppose an insurgency in an occupied country, for that
insurgency to be defeated. Iraq has nowhere near that
percentage which is one reason why  the troops are quagmired and drained.

For Enforcement hasn&#039;t heard about the leaked intelligence report.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iraq is 90% against America and it is amazing from that narrow vantage how little has changed since the Saddam era. Iraq has and had ,say, in 1993, about 10% westernized &#8220;Iraq the Model&#8221; type citizens, who have been educated here and/or who relate to the West in a &#8220;modern&#8221; manner. The remainder are varying secular<br />
anti-Westerners (eg Baathists) and religious anti-Westerners<br />
(eg Sistani/Al Sadr Shias ). Of course by &#8220;anti-West&#8221; I do not<br />
mean chomping-at-the-bit-to-war-against-the-West, just to avoid puppet government Bush wishes them to live under.</p>
<p>Most Iraqis approve of insurgent attacks against American<br />
troops, Strata, provided the attacks don&#8217;t endanger Iraqis.<br />
And you shoud be familiar with the guerilla warfare studies<br />
that show a  minimum significant proportion of locals must actively oppose an insurgency in an occupied country, for that<br />
insurgency to be defeated. Iraq has nowhere near that<br />
percentage which is one reason why  the troops are quagmired and drained.</p>
<p>For Enforcement hasn&#8217;t heard about the leaked intelligence report.</p>
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		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2547/comment-page-2#comment-19385</link>
		<dc:creator>AJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 05:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FE,

I would lay odds Ken doesn&#039;t know what &quot;exponential&#039; means, given the fact if this were the case Iraq would be nearly 100% against America right now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FE,</p>
<p>I would lay odds Ken doesn&#8217;t know what &#8220;exponential&#8217; means, given the fact if this were the case Iraq would be nearly 100% against America right now!</p>
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		<title>By: For Enforcement</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2547/comment-page-2#comment-19373</link>
		<dc:creator>For Enforcement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 23:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken,  how are things in France?

you said:&quot;AJ , realizing I am an America First righty,not a Clinton defender, loves to distract by calling me a liberal. Then addressing red herrings â€¦. Did Strata predict the â€œbacklashâ€ wherein a botched Iraq War and a failure in Afghanistan if Bush shifted the troops would lead to an exponentially sharp increase in worldwide jihad membership?&quot;&quot;

You need to read that carefully, I know you won&#039;t recognize it, but there is not one word of truth in it.
How can anyone that has not one word whatsoever good to say about America consider themself  an American First Righty.  Ha.

AJ couldn&#039;t have predicted what you said because it didn&#039;t happen.  and give me your stats on &quot;exponentially sharp increase in worldwide jihad membership?&quot;&quot;
What are the poll numbers and what Jihadist would be dumb enough, even if there were a survey, to say they had joined the &#039;worldwide jihad membership&#039;
These people aren&#039;t in the USA and they are not conducting polls over there.
So what is your proof of an increase?   Somebody said it?  who? the BDS news media?   

Tell Jacque hi for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken,  how are things in France?</p>
<p>you said:&#8221;AJ , realizing I am an America First righty,not a Clinton defender, loves to distract by calling me a liberal. Then addressing red herrings â€¦. Did Strata predict the â€œbacklashâ€ wherein a botched Iraq War and a failure in Afghanistan if Bush shifted the troops would lead to an exponentially sharp increase in worldwide jihad membership?&#8221;"</p>
<p>You need to read that carefully, I know you won&#8217;t recognize it, but there is not one word of truth in it.<br />
How can anyone that has not one word whatsoever good to say about America consider themself  an American First Righty.  Ha.</p>
<p>AJ couldn&#8217;t have predicted what you said because it didn&#8217;t happen.  and give me your stats on &#8220;exponentially sharp increase in worldwide jihad membership?&#8221;"<br />
What are the poll numbers and what Jihadist would be dumb enough, even if there were a survey, to say they had joined the &#8216;worldwide jihad membership&#8217;<br />
These people aren&#8217;t in the USA and they are not conducting polls over there.<br />
So what is your proof of an increase?   Somebody said it?  who? the BDS news media?   </p>
<p>Tell Jacque hi for us.</p>
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		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 22:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken,

You are liberal - get over it.  It doesn&#039;t really matter what you call yourself, it is your positions that define you, the left and the right.

And with you against Bush Reps will win big!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken,</p>
<p>You are liberal &#8211; get over it.  It doesn&#8217;t really matter what you call yourself, it is your positions that define you, the left and the right.</p>
<p>And with you against Bush Reps will win big!</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 22:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ , realizing I am an America First righty,not a Clinton defender, loves to distract by calling me a liberal. Then addressing red herrings .... Did Strata predict the &quot;backlash&quot; wherein a botched Iraq War and a failure in Afghanistan if Bush shifted the troops would lead to an exponentially sharp increase in worldwide jihad membership?

Merlin-Saddam was &quot;discouraged&quot; by the US administered fly zone from taking out the tiny group of jihadists. The camps moved post-US occupation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ , realizing I am an America First righty,not a Clinton defender, loves to distract by calling me a liberal. Then addressing red herrings &#8230;. Did Strata predict the &#8220;backlash&#8221; wherein a botched Iraq War and a failure in Afghanistan if Bush shifted the troops would lead to an exponentially sharp increase in worldwide jihad membership?</p>
<p>Merlin-Saddam was &#8220;discouraged&#8221; by the US administered fly zone from taking out the tiny group of jihadists. The camps moved post-US occupation.</p>
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		<title>By: The Macker</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Macker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 19:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NIE, Dated April 2006
6 months old. Already out of date, but never too late for  election time. 

Besides, why should we be suprised that confronting monstrous evil would activate the dormant elements of that evil. The benign neglect of the Clinton administration just allowed it to fester.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NIE, Dated April 2006<br />
6 months old. Already out of date, but never too late for  election time. </p>
<p>Besides, why should we be suprised that confronting monstrous evil would activate the dormant elements of that evil. The benign neglect of the Clinton administration just allowed it to fester.</p>
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		<title>By: GroupIntel</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2547/comment-page-1#comment-19313</link>
		<dc:creator>GroupIntel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 12:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Cherry-Filled NIE on Terrorism (Update)...&lt;/strong&gt;

Wow, the (still classified) NIE on terrorism reportedly points out that the war in Iraq has sown a new crop of Jihadists and ratcheted up the terrorist threat since 9/11/01.
The intelligence estimate, completed in April, is the first formal appraisal o...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Cherry-Filled NIE on Terrorism (Update)&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Wow, the (still classified) NIE on terrorism reportedly points out that the war in Iraq has sown a new crop of Jihadists and ratcheted up the terrorist threat since 9/11/01.<br />
The intelligence estimate, completed in April, is the first formal appraisal o&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MerlinOS2</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2547/comment-page-1#comment-19311</link>
		<dc:creator>MerlinOS2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 12:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ

If memory serves, that was Jeffords who did the party switch.

I remember sitting here in Florida and Gore was proposing to Bush that they should come up with a compromise on how to resolve the ballot issue.

Not very nice for a presidential candidate to propose an end run around state sovereignty and those little things called laws!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ</p>
<p>If memory serves, that was Jeffords who did the party switch.</p>
<p>I remember sitting here in Florida and Gore was proposing to Bush that they should come up with a compromise on how to resolve the ballot issue.</p>
<p>Not very nice for a presidential candidate to propose an end run around state sovereignty and those little things called laws!</p>
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		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2547/comment-page-1#comment-19309</link>
		<dc:creator>AJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 11:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Merlin,

More facts for Ken to digest.  Bush&#039;s cabinet was delayed somewhat from Al Gore&#039;s lame attempt to get the courts to select him as President, but it was also delayed when whats-his-name turned the Senate over to the Democrats for two years.  In addition, all policies and budgets until 9/30/01 (after 9-11 Ken) were Clinton budgets and policies.  To move money and efforts required Congressional approval and with the Senate in Dem hands it was unlikely to happen.  Finally, Bush immediately started to work on much stronger plans to take out Al Qaeda in Afghanistan.  Clinton always failed the Colin Powell test of going in with superior fire power.  His plans for Afghanistan were like his plans for Somalia - minimal effort leading to dangerous results.

Don&#039;t worry about Ken folks.  If it was not for liberals like him Reps wouldn&#039;t be winning the elections.  Sadly, the Reps need a lot of work and their competition is so weak and fickled they have become a bit shabby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Merlin,</p>
<p>More facts for Ken to digest.  Bush&#8217;s cabinet was delayed somewhat from Al Gore&#8217;s lame attempt to get the courts to select him as President, but it was also delayed when whats-his-name turned the Senate over to the Democrats for two years.  In addition, all policies and budgets until 9/30/01 (after 9-11 Ken) were Clinton budgets and policies.  To move money and efforts required Congressional approval and with the Senate in Dem hands it was unlikely to happen.  Finally, Bush immediately started to work on much stronger plans to take out Al Qaeda in Afghanistan.  Clinton always failed the Colin Powell test of going in with superior fire power.  His plans for Afghanistan were like his plans for Somalia &#8211; minimal effort leading to dangerous results.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry about Ken folks.  If it was not for liberals like him Reps wouldn&#8217;t be winning the elections.  Sadly, the Reps need a lot of work and their competition is so weak and fickled they have become a bit shabby.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 10:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken, the whole excuse the Democrats give for Saddam not being tied to  AlQaida was that he could not take out Zarqawi on his own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken, the whole excuse the Democrats give for Saddam not being tied to  AlQaida was that he could not take out Zarqawi on his own.</p>
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		<title>By: For Enforcement</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2547/comment-page-1#comment-19291</link>
		<dc:creator>For Enforcement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 06:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken, how&#039;s the weather over there in France?

&quot;Finally when For Enforcement can utter such nonsense as his belief that the jihad would have flocked to an unoccupied Iraq where Saddamâ€™s Baathists could have wiped them out&quot;

Well, ole buddy  the fact that all the terrorists training camps DID in fact move to Iraq after Afghanistan may have a little to do with my belief that they were there..,,,

Divorced from reality?  you never even knew reality, much less divorced it.

Tell  Jacque, we said hi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken, how&#8217;s the weather over there in France?</p>
<p>&#8220;Finally when For Enforcement can utter such nonsense as his belief that the jihad would have flocked to an unoccupied Iraq where Saddamâ€™s Baathists could have wiped them out&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, ole buddy  the fact that all the terrorists training camps DID in fact move to Iraq after Afghanistan may have a little to do with my belief that they were there..,,,</p>
<p>Divorced from reality?  you never even knew reality, much less divorced it.</p>
<p>Tell  Jacque, we said hi.</p>
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		<title>By: MerlinOS2</title>
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		<dc:creator>MerlinOS2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 04:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken

You show your weakness with your reference to Bush.

Bush was just coming into office with a delayed start and all the hadicaps associated with that when 9/11 occurred.

The plot was put in motion long before Bush was elected.

You paint it in the wrong light when you ascribe things to him that are wrong.

This was an attack against America, not a specific person.  Of course I realize that this concept will be lost on you.

I guess you support the first WTC attack as a prestrike of the Bush accendancy to warn us off of our sinful ways.  How convienent.

Perhaps pollsters should hire OBL for his pressence!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken</p>
<p>You show your weakness with your reference to Bush.</p>
<p>Bush was just coming into office with a delayed start and all the hadicaps associated with that when 9/11 occurred.</p>
<p>The plot was put in motion long before Bush was elected.</p>
<p>You paint it in the wrong light when you ascribe things to him that are wrong.</p>
<p>This was an attack against America, not a specific person.  Of course I realize that this concept will be lost on you.</p>
<p>I guess you support the first WTC attack as a prestrike of the Bush accendancy to warn us off of our sinful ways.  How convienent.</p>
<p>Perhaps pollsters should hire OBL for his pressence!</p>
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		<title>By: MerlinOS2</title>
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		<dc:creator>MerlinOS2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 04:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken

The fact that Saddam did not eliminate Ansar al Sunna in the Kurdish regions gives your argument no weight.

Your propose a condition that is not supported by the facts.

Color me surprised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken</p>
<p>The fact that Saddam did not eliminate Ansar al Sunna in the Kurdish regions gives your argument no weight.</p>
<p>Your propose a condition that is not supported by the facts.</p>
<p>Color me surprised.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 03:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ, I asume then you predicted in 2002 a resurgence of the Taliban
in 2006,a failure to stabilize that country in all the years Bush has been there? And that bin Laden would still be free, and Zawahawri?
And that Iraq would inflame European Moslems to commit
terror in England  and on the Continent and go to Iraq if Bush extended the war to Iraq to fight us there?

And you predicted in the run-up to the Iraq invasion, the foreign
jihadists would flock there and with some native recruits, play a key part in creating a brilliant insurgency that has quagmired America in hopeless morass?

And you predicted the jihad by 2006 would exponentially add to their ranks in such a way as to be able to fight us both there and eventually here,with Rumsfeld admitting he has no clue if we are winning or losing?

Finally when For Enforcement can utter such nonsense as his belief that the jihad would have flocked to an unoccupied  Iraq where Saddam&#039;s Baathists could have wiped them out more effectively than the hapless US troops, as they wiped out the Shia rebels,he shows he is divorced from reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ, I asume then you predicted in 2002 a resurgence of the Taliban<br />
in 2006,a failure to stabilize that country in all the years Bush has been there? And that bin Laden would still be free, and Zawahawri?<br />
And that Iraq would inflame European Moslems to commit<br />
terror in England  and on the Continent and go to Iraq if Bush extended the war to Iraq to fight us there?</p>
<p>And you predicted in the run-up to the Iraq invasion, the foreign<br />
jihadists would flock there and with some native recruits, play a key part in creating a brilliant insurgency that has quagmired America in hopeless morass?</p>
<p>And you predicted the jihad by 2006 would exponentially add to their ranks in such a way as to be able to fight us both there and eventually here,with Rumsfeld admitting he has no clue if we are winning or losing?</p>
<p>Finally when For Enforcement can utter such nonsense as his belief that the jihad would have flocked to an unoccupied  Iraq where Saddam&#8217;s Baathists could have wiped them out more effectively than the hapless US troops, as they wiped out the Shia rebels,he shows he is divorced from reality.</p>
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