Sep 29 2006
Why Does Al Qaeda Sound Like The DNC?
Al Qaeda’s number two man, Ayman al-Zawahiri, has come out with a taped message for the world and America (just in time for our upcoming elections) which sounds just like DNC talking points:
“Can’t you [Bush] be honest at least once in your life, and admit that you are a deceitful liar who intentionally deceived your nation when you drove them to war in Iraq,” al-Zawahri said in a portion of the video released by the Washington-based SITE Institute.
You know, I swear I have heard and read that claim before. Oh yes, I heard something similar from Howard Dean:
Democratic Party chairman Howard Dean rejected the criticism on Sunday and said, “The truth is, the president misled America when he sent us to war.” …Dean said, “This is an administration that has a fundamental problem telling the truth.”
But I am certain I have heard this from others. Ah yes, John Kerry as he “reported for duty” at the DNC convention in 2004:
Sen. John Kerry challenged President Bush’s Iraq policy in blunt, biting terms Thursday night and promised cheering Democratic National Convention delegates, “I will be a commander in chief who will never mislead us into war.”
And Kerry said it many times:
SEN. JOHN KERRY: The bottom line is that the president and his administration did mislead America into war.
Where else have we heard Zawahiri’s claim before. Ah yes, Senator Harry Reid:
Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid says he wants to make sure the President Bush can’t mislead the nation on Iran the way Bush supposedly misled Americans on the situation in Iraq.
Zawahiri also claims America tortured Jihadists we have captured and interrogated
“Your agents in the Arabian Peninsula, Yemen, Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, Pakistan and Afghanistan have captured thousands of the youth and soldiers of Islam whom you made to taste at your hands and the hands of your agents various types of punishment and torture,”
Well, at least we did not behead them on TV for propaganda and then allow mobs to desecrate their bodies in the open streets. But I know I have heard this claim before. Again, Rep Nancy Pelosi:
“Tonight at long last, because of Congressman John Murtha’s leadership and persistence, the House finally went on record in favor of clear procedures for dealing with prisoners and against torture.
“Our troops were sent to war in Iraq without many of the essentials needed for their effectiveness and their safety, including a standard of conduct for the treatment of detainees. We have seen, to our great shame and regret, the consequences of this lack of clarity. At Abu Ghraib and elsewhere in Iraq, at Guantanamo, and in Afghanistan, allegations and evidence of detainee abuse have damaged the standing of the United States in the world.
“The United States has long been bound by international agreements prohibiting torture. That we even find it necessary to make the prohibition against torture more explicit is the result of the Bush Administration’s legal interpretation that these long-standing prohibitions apply only to persons on U.S. soil.
And of course we have Sen Ted Kennedy chiming in with Zawahiri:
None of us can forget the images from Abu Ghraib prison in Baghdad that shocked our nation nearly two years ago and stained the United States in the eyes of the world. The American people suddenly realized an unpleasant truth – the cruel practice of torture had infected the ranks of the world’s finest military.
How about President Clinton joining Zawahiri’s chorus:
Former U.S. President Bill Clinton joined a chorus of critics of Bush administration proposals for the treatment of suspected terrorists, saying they would give broad approval to torture.
Shouldn’t the FEC look into whether Al Qaeda is giving in kind political donations to the Democrats for all these supporting claims? Even Al Jazeera has snippets of Bob Woodward’s book (or at least its conclusions) that Bush is hiding the full losses in the war in Iraq. I am wondering how many rabid posters at Huffington and KoS and DU are actually Al Qaeda supporters egging on our pool of useful idiots. Zawahiri’s rants are near copies of posts all over these lefty sites.
Any anti-war, liberal Democrat who complains about side-by-side comparisons between themselves and Al Qaeda have earned it this election cycle. It is beginning to be hard to tell the terrorists from the minority insurgents fighting the Bushitler regime.
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It’s like a bad “B” movie … Al Qaeda comes out with a video that parrots the dems talking points (again). Bush and Reps cite the commonality of the anti-American verbiage, and what’s the reaction? MSM & Dems say that’s over the line. I don’t think the people are that dumb.
I wish I could say that making a commercial of their comments side by side would be over the line but it’s not.
If Dems are making the comments maybe they should start realizing (how the hell don’t they already know what they are doing?) they are giving aid and comfort (and talking points) to the enemies of this country.
My favorite response to the left’s constant insistance that “Bush is a liar”, is to ask them to name just one. Of course, the quick response is no WMD were found. I say that is not a lie, that was an intelligence estimate accepted by everyone, and in fact, WMDs were found, just not stock-piles. Name another. They can’t. Not one. Then they go away laughing about how ignorant I am. I laugh also, but at them, not with them. I am truly amazed at the number of people who go through life completely ignorant of ‘reality’, not even having a clue of what we face as a civilation or what ‘fascism’ even means.
Great post AJ.
If this applied to Repubs, MSM would have front page comparisons every day until elections. I agree with Mark78 and no, it is not over the top. This is war and half of the Dems are fighting for the wrong side. When they had rather give our enemies information and protect their rights, we need to point out that the enemy recognizes the French. They are not even close to being as crazy as what we are seeing in this country.
Bob Woodward’s source for “Denial” exposed….
Well since we know that no one who was anyone really who knew anything at the White House talked to Woodward for his election year hit piece “State of Denial”, I’ve been wondering just where did he get his sourcing from?
Now we know!
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And why do Dems use the phrase “Bush is a liar”?
Well, they got so used to associating ‘if his lips are moving, he’s lying’ with the President during Clinton’s term that now they just assume if the Pres is moving his lips, he’s lying. They seem to have overlooked the change in the person that is holding the office.
AJ: I wish you WOULD write Campaign Commercials for the Republican party, during this upcoming election showdown, this is VITALLY important!
Leftists constantly complain that they support the Troops, and are Strong on National Security, and that all their dangerous and treasonous actions and words, are actually “patriotic dissent”!
They get OUTRAGED, when anyone questions their patriotism, committment to National Security, ability to “dissent”, or assert that they are providing “aid & comfort” to the enemy.
Well, you know what, Dissent, and difference of Opinion, and Disagreement with Policy are FINE, and encouraged; but not the way the Leftists do it!
It IS aid and comfort the enemy, and it is not “dissent”, the way they do it, because they ONLY do it, not because they actually care, or believe in what they are doing/saying; no they do it for the callous, capricious, and purely seditionist reasons of they HATE Bush, and for Political gain! And that makes it EVIL in my book.
IF anyone NEEDS ANY proof; just look at the fact that Al Qaeda, in fact, COPIES their Talking Points!
You need look no further, and you need no further proof; it sounds like Howard Dean, Michael Moore, Sean Penn, Nancy Poelosi, ad naseum……
It’s disgusting!
It reminds me of John Kerry’s three trips to Paris, in order to get his Communist-approved “Talking Points”, written by the East Germans, and apporved by the North Vietnamese/NVA/VC reps in Paris!
These people have NO shame, and no conscience, and they’re ONLY goal, is to assist, like Jimmy Carter, in some type of lunatic form of national suicide!
Embarrassed by the fact that Bush lying enables the jihad to comment on the lies, Strata? Or just being opportunistic again?
Uneasy about the fact that Arabophobically-induced mistreatment and mistreatment accorded to general pressures of unnecessary war , is not uncommon in Iraq by the US forces, helping turn the populace increasingly against us? More Iraqis express sympathy with the insurgency than ever, according to the latest poll and a higher percentage wish the US to leave than ever.
Did Kennedy and Murtha and Pelosi cause this? Or did widespread home invasions, shootings at traffic outposts and the war crimes of
Fallujah’s destruction etc?
The Democrats shou;d be ashamed all right, of their majority giving Bush the okay to launch the war in the first place. That they have become opportunists now hardly makes them any worse than the neocons who lied us into it.
Ken
Where do you get these polls you keep talking about? Give us a source. And don’t list Zogsby. He is totally irrelevant.
AJ
Why does Al Quaeda sound like the DNC? Because they are brothers under the skin. They are both trying to change their countries to their beliefs.
http://www.iht.com/bin/print_ipub.php?file=/articles/ap/2006/09/29/america/NA_GEN_US_Iraq.php
proves everything Strata says about staying in Iraq is wrong.
Ken, that link is brilliant. A lefty writing a totally mis-informed article for a MSM. Do we have to doubt the accuracy of it? Do we even have to read it to know what it says? I’ll bet it’s a real laugher. I wouldn’t know because I didn’t read it. If you had just cut and pasted the things that are actually true in it, you could have put it here and this space would be blank.
Ken doesn’t quote polls. He just says he is quoting a poll, he has never posted a link to a poll because they don’t exist. They are figments of a wasteland of a brain.
You said:”The Democrats shou;d be ashamed all right,” yea they should, of America hating.
I forgot to ask how things are there in France, but we already know.
Give Jacque our regards.
Then I suppose US Officer Sean McFarland quoted directly in the aobve will sue the Herald Tribune for libel. he says Iraqis must defeat the insurgency themselves because US forces have inadequate credibility and sympathy from the populace to do so.
I have cited and named specific polls contrary to FE’s robotic
ostrich-like response. MSNBC, Zogby, Pew, among others.
Strata is quite aware the last poll of iraqis reflected the greatest
approval rate for the insurgency ever among Iraqis.
sorry to burst your bubble, FE
Associated Press
Poll: Iraqis Back Attacks on U.S. Troops
By BARRY SCHWEID , 09.27.2006, 06:28 PM
About six in 10 Iraqis say they approve of attacks on U.S.-led forces, and slightly more than that want their government to ask U.S. troops to leave within a year, a poll finds.
The Iraqis also have negative views of Osama bin Laden, according to the early September poll of 1,150.
The poll, done for University of Maryland’s Program on International Policy Attitudes, found:
_Almost four in five Iraqis say the U.S. military force in Iraq provokes more violence than it prevents.
_About 61 percent approved of the attacks – up from 47 percent in January. A solid majority of Shiite and Sunni Arabs approved of the attacks, according to the poll. The increase came mostly among Shiite Iraqis.
_An overwhelmingly negative opinion of terror chief bin Laden and more than half, 57 percent, disapproving of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
_Three-fourths say they think the U.S. plans to keep military bases in Iraq permanently.
_A majority of Iraqis, 72 percent, say they think Iraq will be one state five years from now. Shiite Iraqis were most likely to feel that way, though a majority of Sunnis and Kurds also believed that would be the case.
The PIPA poll, which included an oversample of 150 Sunni Iraqis, has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.
The State Department, meanwhile, has conducted its own poll, something it does periodically, spokesman Sean McCormack said. The State Department poll found two-thirds of Iraqis in Baghdad favor an immediate withdrawal of U.S. forces, according to The Washington Post. McCormack declined to discuss details of the department’s poll.
“What I hear from government representatives and other anecdotal evidence that you hear from Iraqis that is collected by embassy personnel and military personnel is that Iraqis do appreciate our presence there,” he said. “They do understand the reasons for it, they do understand that we don’t want to or we don’t intend to be there indefinitely.”
An Iraqi public opinion research firm with a proven record of conducting scientifically valid surveys conducted the department’s poll, press officer Janelle Hironimus said later.
“We will not identify the firm in order to protect it and its employees from danger,” she said.
Iraqi officials have said Iraq’s security was improving and expanding throughout the country, and most U.S. troops might be able to leave eventually.
Last week, Iraqi President Jalal Talibani told the United Nations that coalition forces should remain in Iraq until Iraqi security forces are “capable of putting an end to terrorism and maintaining stability and security.”
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