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	<description>High Flying Political Debate</description>
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		<title>By: La Shawn Barber's Corner</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2625/comment-page-1#comment-20293</link>
		<dc:creator>La Shawn Barber's Corner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 12:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Foleygate: Citizen Journalism Rears Its Head...&lt;/strong&gt;

	The blogosphere can be a fun and heady place. It can also be backbiting and libelous terrain. However humble were blogging&#8217;s beginnings, the medium has morphed into a powerful display of citizen journalism and captures the essence of free speech...</description>
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<p>	The blogosphere can be a fun and heady place. It can also be backbiting and libelous terrain. However humble were blogging&#8217;s beginnings, the medium has morphed into a powerful display of citizen journalism and captures the essence of free speech&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MerlinOS2</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2625/comment-page-1#comment-20278</link>
		<dc:creator>MerlinOS2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 04:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t remember specifically, which makes me wonder how some can have such clarity that far back, but it was windows 3.0 or win95 that had and icon on initial install to join aol as a preload.

There was a tie in agreement for the join aol icon and aol using a modified IE browser for their interface.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t remember specifically, which makes me wonder how some can have such clarity that far back, but it was windows 3.0 or win95 that had and icon on initial install to join aol as a preload.</p>
<p>There was a tie in agreement for the join aol icon and aol using a modified IE browser for their interface.</p>
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		<title>By: MerlinOS2</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2625/comment-page-1#comment-20276</link>
		<dc:creator>MerlinOS2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 04:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AOL for windows had im capability

ICQ was a souped up version of IRC (intenet relay chat)

It&#039;s biggest competitor was MIRC

Aol bought ICQ from Mirrabellis (spelling) several years after they opened and kept it as a seperate group.  It could not interface with aol customers.

The original browser aol was built around was IE and even though aol bought out netscape they kept it as a separate unit and starved it so some jumped ship and developed firefox later</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AOL for windows had im capability</p>
<p>ICQ was a souped up version of IRC (intenet relay chat)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s biggest competitor was MIRC</p>
<p>Aol bought ICQ from Mirrabellis (spelling) several years after they opened and kept it as a seperate group.  It could not interface with aol customers.</p>
<p>The original browser aol was built around was IE and even though aol bought out netscape they kept it as a separate unit and starved it so some jumped ship and developed firefox later</p>
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		<title>By: For Enforcement</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2625/comment-page-1#comment-20275</link>
		<dc:creator>For Enforcement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 04:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to Wikipedia,  AOL for Windows was introduced in &#039;93,  don&#039;t know how that relates to IM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Wikipedia,  AOL for Windows was introduced in &#8217;93,  don&#8217;t know how that relates to IM.</p>
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		<title>By: For Enforcement</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2625/comment-page-1#comment-20274</link>
		<dc:creator>For Enforcement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 03:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm,  funny how our memory can play tricks.   According to the HowStuffWorks web site,  AOL got into instant messaging in 1997 when they bought out the very first online IM system called ICQ.  According to them, ICQ basically started in NOvember &#039;96 and AOL bought them out soon after.   My recollection would have put it in about that time frame.  I think all they had along in &#039;96 was dial up, but I don&#039;t remember IM at all until a little later.   But then everybody has bookmarks and I sure wouldn&#039;t argue with any of them.      
I do know that I heard him say that myself and I said  at the time,  oh, no.  they didn&#039;t have instant messaging until later than that.

And as someone said above  Wikipedia puts it in about the same time frame as HOWSTUFFWORKS.

Anyhow, it&#039;s pretty apparent that the pages weren&#039;t IM in the time frame stated on Nancy Grace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm,  funny how our memory can play tricks.   According to the HowStuffWorks web site,  AOL got into instant messaging in 1997 when they bought out the very first online IM system called ICQ.  According to them, ICQ basically started in NOvember &#8217;96 and AOL bought them out soon after.   My recollection would have put it in about that time frame.  I think all they had along in &#8217;96 was dial up, but I don&#8217;t remember IM at all until a little later.   But then everybody has bookmarks and I sure wouldn&#8217;t argue with any of them.<br />
I do know that I heard him say that myself and I said  at the time,  oh, no.  they didn&#8217;t have instant messaging until later than that.</p>
<p>And as someone said above  Wikipedia puts it in about the same time frame as HOWSTUFFWORKS.</p>
<p>Anyhow, it&#8217;s pretty apparent that the pages weren&#8217;t IM in the time frame stated on Nancy Grace.</p>
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		<title>By: For Enforcement</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2625/comment-page-1#comment-20272</link>
		<dc:creator>For Enforcement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 03:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>perdogg,,    hey i&#039;m an NC State grad also,  &#039;74 ( Lou Holtz era)
They had the on campus set up back then tied to the Research Triangle computing center.    no internet tho.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>perdogg,,    hey i&#8217;m an NC State grad also,  &#8217;74 ( Lou Holtz era)<br />
They had the on campus set up back then tied to the Research Triangle computing center.    no internet tho.</p>
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		<title>By: MerlinOS2</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2625/comment-page-1#comment-20271</link>
		<dc:creator>MerlinOS2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 03:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Transcript from the site

ShrineGuard
Jul 1 2003, 07:23 PM
I wasn&#039;t there, but I think a police officer said the Pages just went to the dorm. I think any more specific details might be an infringement of this forum&#039;s policy on security details. 
jordanedmund
Jul 1 2003, 08:33 PM
No it wouldnt Shrineguard. Everyone in the city was encouraged to go back to their homes after the attacks took place. So the Pages went back to their home which is the dorm, we remained there for the rest of the day and then went back to our normal activities the next day. If you would like to know more specific details, feel free to Instant Message me with AOL instant messanger, at Lolakana223, and I&#039;ll answer any question you have.</description>
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<p>ShrineGuard<br />
Jul 1 2003, 07:23 PM<br />
I wasn&#8217;t there, but I think a police officer said the Pages just went to the dorm. I think any more specific details might be an infringement of this forum&#8217;s policy on security details.<br />
jordanedmund<br />
Jul 1 2003, 08:33 PM<br />
No it wouldnt Shrineguard. Everyone in the city was encouraged to go back to their homes after the attacks took place. So the Pages went back to their home which is the dorm, we remained there for the rest of the day and then went back to our normal activities the next day. If you would like to know more specific details, feel free to Instant Message me with AOL instant messanger, at Lolakana223, and I&#8217;ll answer any question you have.</p>
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		<title>By: MerlinOS2</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2625/comment-page-1#comment-20269</link>
		<dc:creator>MerlinOS2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 03:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another thing to remember the kid that was exposed tonight was in the page class when 9/11 happened.

I found one site  tonight when he was in a chat room talking about it with some other pages.

Interesting to note that during that chat where he is logged in under his true name he gives his aol im screen name to another page to contact him about an off topic subject</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing to remember the kid that was exposed tonight was in the page class when 9/11 happened.</p>
<p>I found one site  tonight when he was in a chat room talking about it with some other pages.</p>
<p>Interesting to note that during that chat where he is logged in under his true name he gives his aol im screen name to another page to contact him about an off topic subject</p>
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		<title>By: MerlinOS2</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2625/comment-page-1#comment-20266</link>
		<dc:creator>MerlinOS2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 02:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We were AOL members and bbs operators in parallel for a while until AOL basically killed of meaningfull participation in fidonet by our local users. But it was probably mid to late 91 when we activated our aol accounts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We were AOL members and bbs operators in parallel for a while until AOL basically killed of meaningfull participation in fidonet by our local users. But it was probably mid to late 91 when we activated our aol accounts.</p>
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		<title>By: MerlinOS2</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2625/comment-page-1#comment-20265</link>
		<dc:creator>MerlinOS2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 02:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ
My wife and I were married in 92 and both of us were on AOL after switching from running Fidonet BBS systems and it had chat rooms and im&#039;s from our first days and we were almost charter members.  There were about 60000 members when we first logged on IIRC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ<br />
My wife and I were married in 92 and both of us were on AOL after switching from running Fidonet BBS systems and it had chat rooms and im&#8217;s from our first days and we were almost charter members.  There were about 60000 members when we first logged on IIRC</p>
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		<title>By: perdogg</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2625/comment-page-1#comment-20264</link>
		<dc:creator>perdogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 02:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ,

AOL had IM in 1995/1996. I remember it well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ,</p>
<p>AOL had IM in 1995/1996. I remember it well.</p>
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		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2625/comment-page-1#comment-20261</link>
		<dc:creator>AJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 02:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Merlin,

Yes - AOL was established in 1991. But websites and IM came much later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Merlin,</p>
<p>Yes &#8211; AOL was established in 1991. But websites and IM came much later.</p>
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		<title>By: perdogg</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2625/comment-page-1#comment-20259</link>
		<dc:creator>perdogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 02:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember when I was at NC State in 1996, State had  Unix based  IM system that was called Zephyr that only worked on campus. I also remember that  AOL was the only windows platform based IP at the time. The highest baud rate we could get was 58.8-k, if we were lucky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember when I was at NC State in 1996, State had  Unix based  IM system that was called Zephyr that only worked on campus. I also remember that  AOL was the only windows platform based IP at the time. The highest baud rate we could get was 58.8-k, if we were lucky.</p>
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		<title>By: MerlinOS2</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2625/comment-page-1#comment-20255</link>
		<dc:creator>MerlinOS2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 01:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to wikipedia aol was establishe in 1991</description>
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		<title>By: MerlinOS2</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2625/comment-page-1#comment-20254</link>
		<dc:creator>MerlinOS2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 01:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will have to check when aol was founded, but it had im&#039;s from the beginning as well as chat rooms and was the isp of choice for many even with dialup because of all the cd&#039;s they mailbombed everyone with to become their isp.

Otherwise for a national isp all you had was compuserve and one who&#039;s name I can&#039;t even remember that IBM bought out prodigy or something like that.  

I believe aol came out in the mid to late 80&#039;s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will have to check when aol was founded, but it had im&#8217;s from the beginning as well as chat rooms and was the isp of choice for many even with dialup because of all the cd&#8217;s they mailbombed everyone with to become their isp.</p>
<p>Otherwise for a national isp all you had was compuserve and one who&#8217;s name I can&#8217;t even remember that IBM bought out prodigy or something like that.  </p>
<p>I believe aol came out in the mid to late 80&#8242;s</p>
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