Oct 05 2006

Foleygate Going To Explode On Dems!

Published by AJStrata at 1:57 pm under All General Discussions, Foleygate

Update: Raw Story implies ABC News is going with “fake but accurate”:

Sources inside ABC News tell RAW STORY that the evidence of widespread misconduct by Foley is overwhelming and rules out the possibility that the entire scandal is based on a prank or a sting.

Note the idea the overall picture is correct, therefore the entire thing couldn’t be a sting. Is it me or is ABC News in denial about the gullibility and sloppiness.

Update: Let’s think about the implications of all this if it is true and Jordan Edmunds – Republican – was simply a person in on joke IMs from 2003 with Foley. It means ABC News did not perform minimal due dilligence since bloggers Wild Bill and Ms Understimating were able to get a brief glimpse at the AOL account name and find the young man in Oklahoma in a few short days. Can we assume ABC was able to get that far? Why not – they should have been able to. Then how is it they did not get the potentially damaging story that these were pranks emails – not for real? How could they miss that? And how could ABCNews miss the fact the source was a Democrat operative?

Well, there are only so many reasonable conclusions we can speculate about. Option (1): The Democrat operative could have pretended to be Edmunds and lied to a lot of people about a lot of things. But recall these IM messages came AFTER a well publicized leak regarding questionable (but legal) emails from 2005. So were these two different sources? Still, how is it ABCNews missed the real Jordan Edmunds? Option (2): Edmunds was approached about the IMs and provided them to the Democrat operative, possibly for something in return (e.g., cold hard cash, keeping quiet). This way Edmunds would pretend to be the victim to ABC News when it caught up to him. Option (3): ABCNews was so sloppy (or negligent) they printed anything they got and did no due diligence whatsoever – or were never inclinded to for other reasons.

One thing is for sure, if this was a prank used for dirty tricks, then this story is not over and the Democrats and ABCNews have a lot of explaining to do to America. Because what happened was nearly the equivalent of yelling ‘fire’ in a theatre. Peoples’ lives have been trampled in the stampede of a media feeding frenzy. And that is real damage to a person’s well being and livilihood. End Update

Drudge is now claiming the explicit emails were only a Page prank that got into the hands of democrat political operatives. This may be a case of pure BDS blindness setting. It may also be the case where Rogers and Aravosis and CREW screwed themselves and the Democrats. It now makes sense why someone might hold onto the IMs – as a memory of a joke. Apparently the young man exposed by Passionate American is giving up the ghost (which is great news). I do regret assuming they had outed a young child victim. But my fatherly instincts are reasonable. What excuse do the Democrats have! Anyone doubt the timing of the Drudge headline with Hastert presser? Not me.

27 responses so far

27 Responses to “Foleygate Going To Explode On Dems!”

  1. carol johnsonon 05 Oct 2006 at 2:07 pm

    “Rogers and Aravosis and CREW screwed themselves and the Democrats.”

    No shinola?

    Carol

  2. smh10on 05 Oct 2006 at 2:07 pm

    If this pans out I would assume these young men will understand the implications of such a prank. Once again it appears the dems and their enablers the MSM have jumped into the water both feet first not knowing if there is a serious undertow. Amazing when law enforcement gets involved how quickly truths begin to out.

    How sad once again that so many will suffer at the hands of a few.

  3. CTon 05 Oct 2006 at 2:12 pm

    Assuming this is true (and it might not be, Drudge has been wrong before), this goes to show why journalism classes teach you to verify your facts before reporting. With 24 hour reporting, journalists are so bloody desparate to be the first to the punch they don’t even bother anymore.

    You’d think they’d have learned their lesson with RatherGate.

  4. kathieon 05 Oct 2006 at 2:18 pm

    THANK GOD FOR PASSIONATE AMERICAN! GOOD WORK!

  5. Limerickon 05 Oct 2006 at 2:23 pm

    I don’t care who did what or when I just want ALL the story told. If it means heads roll then heads roll, but I suspect that just as many will roll to the left as to the right if ALL the facts get reported. Counting on the mainstream media to to that however is another story.

  6. smh10on 05 Oct 2006 at 2:27 pm

    Kathie:

    Amen to that. I had mixed emotions about the “outing” before this revelation but if this is so then without that info, I doubt others would have come forth this quickly. Just imagine if we didn’t have these men and women on the blogs doing the heavy work. We would be stuck with the MSM….yuk.

  7. Enlightenedon 05 Oct 2006 at 2:28 pm

    Picture this – IF this “prank” is not true – the only way the left can rebut it – is to expose themselves to prior knowledge.

    Hyuck Hyuck. A Lose.Lose situation no matter what!

    I can barely stand it

  8. For Enforcementon 05 Oct 2006 at 2:30 pm

    If this is true, then all those screaming for Hastert’s head were a little premature. Some were advocating waiting for the facts to be known. Some wanted to hang him first, then get the facts.

    As I heard a dounce say on one of the talk shows a few minutes ago. Hastert should step down UNTIL the facts are known. Yea,… I’m sure there is such a thing as a temporary resignation.

    How does the saying go? Where do I go to get my reputation back?

  9. patchon 05 Oct 2006 at 2:39 pm

    Karl Rove, evil genius, strikes again!

  10. smh10on 05 Oct 2006 at 2:41 pm

    According to Drudge now Freeh is not going to investigate..Dems objected to him..oh man.

  11. HILLARYNEEDSAVACATIONon 05 Oct 2006 at 2:44 pm

    A Prank Used To Destroy?…

    Former Rep. Foley is a troubled individual whose behavior is unacceptable, but it is clear this story has been falsely slanted for the most political damage as possible….

  12. carol johnsonon 05 Oct 2006 at 2:45 pm

    HASTERT APOLOGIZES BUT REFUSES TO RESIGN…

    Does not appoint former FBI chief Louis Freeh to investigate the page program — as widely reported –because of objections from Democrats… Developing… DRUDGE REPORT

    …..

    Do these people EVER tire of bending over for the Democrats??? “Nancy Pelosi forbids it!!?” Does the word “GUTS” have any meaning to these idiots? Now what? Does Alberto Gonzalez appoint a prosecutor? What?

    Sigh.

    Carol

  13. kathieon 05 Oct 2006 at 2:48 pm

    I HAD MIXED EMOTIONS ABOUT PASSIONATE AMERICAN TOO-HE GOT DEATH THREATS, THE COMMENT SECTION WAS UNBELIEVABLE. MSM TRIED WITH RATHER, PLAME, NOW FOLEY. HAVE I MISSED ANYTHING? I THINK THEY SHOULD FOLD UP SHOP, THEY ARE PATHETIC!!!!!!! I GUESS BRINGING DOWN A PRESIDENT, ESPECIALLY THIS PRESIDENT IS HARDER THEN THEY THINK.

  14. For Enforcementon 05 Oct 2006 at 2:48 pm

    They’ll probably let Nancy do the appointment. She’ll probably look for an objective person, like say……. Ben Veniste

  15. For Enforcementon 05 Oct 2006 at 2:49 pm

    No…… maybe Jamie Gorelik

  16. Enlightenedon 05 Oct 2006 at 2:49 pm

    Holy Moly. I need a drink and it’s only 12:30 here.

  17. Limerickon 05 Oct 2006 at 2:56 pm

    The MSM has left as many holes in this story as the border fence. Alot of varmits will be squirming thru. With 5 more weeks till the day of reckoning this is gonna be like a Jerry Springer marathon.

    Englihtened: I could use a cold one myself.

  18. For Enforcementon 05 Oct 2006 at 2:58 pm

    It’s 5 o’clock somewhere. I’ll bet the Dems heads are still spinning.

  19. carol johnsonon 05 Oct 2006 at 3:09 pm

    “Holy Moly. I need a drink and it’s only 12:30 here. ”

    Awww go ahead. I will if you will. It will solve all the world’s problems. Right?

    Carol

  20. HaroldHutchisonon 05 Oct 2006 at 3:15 pm

    It’s only half-past twelve, but I don’t care…
    It’s five o’clock somewhere!

    /singing that would not be permitted at Gitmo.

    I’m getting some cold Diet Pepsi and Diet Mountain Dew, myself.

  21. MerlinOS2on 05 Oct 2006 at 3:24 pm

    Geez were all having drinks of our choice

    and the dems are spitting their cool-aid all over the keyboard

    Irony is so much fun

  22. Flopping Aceson 05 Oct 2006 at 3:42 pm

    The Foley Scandal, Part One Billion…

    How is it that ABC, Blogactive, AMERICABlog, and this unheard of new blog Stop Sex Predators, all seemed to be working in unison to get as much publicity out of friendly emails, and then all of a sudden these IM’s appeared? Who got these emails …

  23. smh10on 05 Oct 2006 at 3:51 pm

    Oh Enforcement I hope that is a joke..lol. On second thought they do think us Republicans are suckers all of the time.

  24. CatoRenascion 05 Oct 2006 at 4:13 pm

    AJ, there is another option: Edmund was part of a group that was involved in the IM prank. He and a few other friends (probably mostly republicans, but who knows) new about the IMs, but had more or less forgotten about them. Edmund had a copy, and perhaps so did the others in the group. Perhaps accidentally, perhaps on purpose (why??) one of the people who had a copy of the IM session let someone who was a Democrat see it. Or, perhaps one of the people in on the joke who had a copy used to be a Republican but switched sides. (An example would be the head of the Northwestern college republicans a year ago who decided over the summer he was (1) gay and (2) no longer a republican – I don’t suggest he was involved, only that people do change sides) That person decided to share those IMs. When is the question. Were they shared only after the first publicity? Or, as appears likely, were they floating around in Democratland for a while? Inquiring minds want to know…

  25. PoliBlog: A Rough Draft of my Thoughtson 05 Oct 2006 at 4:30 pm

    Drudge and The Prank Theory…

    Drudge reports: “CLAIM: FILTHY FOLEY ONLINE MESSAGES WERE PAGE PRANK GONE AWRY”
    According to one Oklahoma source who knows the former page very well, Edmund, a conservative Republican, goaded an unwitting Foley to type embarrassing comment…

  26. Terryeon 05 Oct 2006 at 5:20 pm

    I am watching Brit Hume and no mention has been made of this. Are we sure it is true?

  27. The Real Ugly American.comon 05 Oct 2006 at 8:53 pm

    Bloggers Best MSM again…

    I’m sure some blogger has covered this already because there are a lot of really good bloggers out there but I haven’t read it yet so just in case let’s take a little bit different look at Foleygate.
    First of all it was a faux blog th…

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