Nov 16 2006
Now These Are Illegal Immigrants
The perfect example of what we need to focus on regarding foreign people here in our country is this story (again from Michelle’s site). This is what we need to stop. Not the family down the street trying to make living and raise a family. I am all for deporting this crowd (after some serious questioning) or sending them to GITMO if they are indeed terrorist troops.
Update: And here is another view of immigrants we need to be reminded of when people start fixating on hyped up stereotypes. [H/T The Anchoress, et al]
The problem that I have with Michelle Malkin is that she makes one or two bad apples look bad for all illegal immigrants.
The bad apples need to be arrested or sent to GITMO but the good illegal immigrants should be assimilated to gain their legal status.
But I do like almost everything else Michelle posts.
Sometimes Michelle is a bigot.
The Wage Slave Immigration System
Versus
The Traditional Immigration System
I believe that the billionaires that control America’s media favor the Democrat Party because the Democrat Party is currently staffed with demagogue politicians who are “on the take†or just plain crazed with a lust for political power. I believe that most of America’s billionaires want an America that contains a population that is Balkanized without a common sense of history because they own the television networks that propagandize in both Spanish and English. As long as the demagogue politicians have a large enough population of “victims†that they can rely on to serve as their voter base, they can rule America for the benefit of the billionaires that control multinational corporations.
Of course, not all billionaires need illegal immigrants for their “chicken plucking†business. However, the Tyson family, and the Clinton family are all hugs and kisses. A very softball article that will give a little insight into the Tyson situation is at the December 3, 2001 website article as follows:
http://www.visalaw.com/01dec3/14dec301.html.
Of course, Tyson beat the rap with the, “What the heck, the documents looked real and the Government took six months to tell us that the social security numbers didn’t match the names of the people that we hired†ploy. A softball report on the Tyson “skate free†verdict can be found at the March 28, 2003 website article as follows:
http://www.visalaw.com/03mar4/10mar403.html
Can anyone please explain how an illegal immigrant who is only being paid six dollars an hour by Tyson Foods is supposed to pay an economic penalty for some number of the years that he has worked in this country as part of the Bush plan to make him a legal immigrant? If he has a wife and children who have been living in Mexico while he was working in the US, will they ever be allowed under the Bush plan to live with him in the US? If they have already been living in the US with him, how will he be able to pay an economic penalty for them to become citizens? The economic penalty that in the Bush plan requires might be feasible for an illegal high tech worker who has been working for twenty dollars an hour (for a job with normal wage of sixty dollars an hour) but someone supporting a family on six dollars an hour already needs financial assistance from the government in order to live. If you cut his Tyson Food six dollar an hour wage’s take-home-pay by adding economic penalties he can’t survive unless you increase the family’s welfare entitlement. Any assumption that Tyson Food will pay him greater wages to offset his Bush economic penalty is incorrect because Tyson Food says that they will have to close their US plants and move their meat packing business out of the country if they have to pay more than they are currently paying.
Those who propose a Comprehensive Immigration Reform based on imposing financial penalties on people who are working “on the books†for six dollars an hour or “off the books†for less than six dollars an hour are either not in contact with reality or are participating in a flimflam. I hope everyone can remember Hillary’s “futures trading†winning days and Tyson Foods’ losing days that occurred at the same stockbroker’s office on the same days. It is amazing how she would be better able to predict the cattle market better than Tyson Foods.
I feel zero need for punishment of illegal immigrants who have been working for crooked corporations. President Reagan’s Comprehensive Immigration Reform Law does not impose any penalties on illegal immigrants. Deportation of illegal immigrants is not a criminal penalty. Deportation at US Government expense would simply return the illegal immigrant to his or country. Do you believe that retiring in Mexico would be a punishment? If so, is it because you are a racist that would not want to live among Mexicans? Isn’t it less expensive to live in Mexico? If you have lived for twenty years in the US and received a refund of the Social Security taxes that you paid during those twenty years, would that be a sufficient nest egg for retirement in Mexico?
However, Tyson Foods would have to shut it doors if the current immigration law were to be faithfully executed by the President. That is why the law has not been enforced since the last Comprehensive Immigration Reform Law was passed. Because of “anchor babies†that have been born to illegal immigrants since the last Comprehensive Immigration Reform Law was passed and the number of “anchor babies†that will be born after the next Comprehensive Immigration Reform Law, crooked politicians will be able to supply Tyson Foods with an endless supply of wage slaves.
My only “beef†(not to be confused with “no risk†cattle futures trading) is with the nonsense about economic penalties being placed on people working for six dollars an hour. That which cattle leave on the grass does not stink as much as the “alleged†economic penalties flimflam.
There is no free lunch. Someone has to pay for everything. The taxpayers have to provide minimal needs to the children of people who are working at wage slave rates for Tyson Foods. If they need medical care, the children of illegal immigrants are able to obtain medical care in our hospital emergency rooms. If the children of illegal Mexican immigrants graduate from high school in the United States, they are entitled to entrance into the state universities on an affirmative action basis and entitled to financial aid based on the financial inability of their parents to pay for their cost of tuition and the cost of living at the state university.
The traditional American immigration policy would cause Tyson Foods to be exposed to the market place of only legal immigrants and American citizens. By controlling the total supply of American citizens and legal immigrants, the Government can force Tyson to pay a salary (plus medical benefits) to its workers that would allow the workers to live in nice homes, eat wholesome food, drive nice automobiles and to pay for the cost of their children’s college education. The Catch 22 is that Tyson Foods says that if they pay a living wage they will not be able to process food and sell it inside the United States at a price that is competitive with world prices for processed food. Democrats say that wage slave rates for illegal immigrant workers is not a problem because Democrats will provide excellent Government assistance for Tyson Food’s Mexican wage slaves.
Some Republicans says that the Republicans can’t compete with the Democrats for the future votes of illegal immigrants if they don’t outbid the Democrats with a plan to give citizenship to an endless supply of illegal immigrants who are willing to work for Tyson Foods at wage slave rates. Of course, the next thing for those Republicans to do is to call for immediate voting rights for illegal immigrants and for Republicans to outbid the Democrat Party as to the quality of Government services and level of financial assistance for the wage slaves working for Tyson Foods.
Construction Companies have copied Tyson Foods and have been hiring illegal immigrant Mexican carpenters, plumbers, electricians, roofers and general laborers. The people in the construction trades who were Reagan Democrats that have been forced to compete with illegal Mexican immigrants know that there is no help available to stop the completion from illegal immigrants if both the Democrat and Republican candidate are for wide-open borders. However, those Reagan Democrats can and have dropped out of political participation. Exit polls don’t identify the number of Reagan Democrats who did not go to the polls.
There is no free lunch. Either Americans will live in a labor market that will produce a living wage or they will demand that the Government provide financial support for the quality of life that they had enjoyed prior to the open borders wage slave system cut their wages. The more wage slaves we have; the more Democrat voters we will have because the Democrat Party will outbid the Republican Party with more generous Government services and larger cash assistance payments.
She is not a bigot she is a realist. Years ago it was just illegal inmigration. Today after 9-11 it’s a matter of national security. All the the terrorists in London are from Pakistan. Should we keep an eye for all Pakistani that come in? Absolutely. Most of the Arabs trying to get through the Mexican border are of Pakistani origin. Where we suspect Osama is ? Pakistan.
The cost of illegal innmigration is in the billions. 39% of illegals in California are on welfare while they make up 78% of all crime. Small and large school systems are overwhelmed by all the students who can’t speak english. The regular students are suffering because of all the $$ being spent on illegals. The hospitals are having to give free care to illegals and the regular patients are short changed. The list goes on.All while not contributing a penny in taxes.
They need to control the physical borders as well as all ports of entry.The cost of so called cheap labor is not cheap. Mexico is benefitting while not addressing the real problems that bring these people to the US. Someone should tell Fox to stop meddling in our problems and fix his own.But we are too pc. If we don’t secure our borders we will fail as a nation.
Maybe not a bigot, but she did possibly slander someone here on the flimsy excuse Issa came up with the idea of engaging Hezballah. Trying to think of ways to solve the problem doesn’t make Issa pro terrorists. As I noted on another thread, Blair just proposed engaging Syria and Iran on Iraq. Does that make him pro terrorists? Pro Iran? Of course not. This is a serious matter. We cannot, as law and order conservatives, allow slander like this. We did on Miers, will we do it again?
I have said on numerous past posts that we need to stop the imans from coming here to preach. And I am for all religious leaders of other countries being stopped from coming here. I can’t think why we need them or even why they want to come. There are plenty of preachers here already..on tv an overabundance of them. But it is dangerous for us to allow these wahabist imans to come here to incite the muslim population here to violence. We don’t know who they have converted to the fascist part of the muslim religion We don’t know what goes on in these mosques and schools.
Malkin is right about this but I have questioned her opinions and judgements on other things.
AJ,
You said and asked as follows:
“As I noted on another thread, Blair just proposed engaging Syria and Iran on Iraq. Does that make him pro terrorists?â€
Blair has been under pressure because he helped America liberate Iraq. After WW II, Americans and the British felt bad about their failure to save the Jews from Hitler. Therefore, both countries helped create the modern state of Israel. Bush 43 has Bush 41 people thinking about “engaging Syria and Iran on Iraqâ€.
What will “engaging Syria and Iran on Iraq†mean? Previous engaging with Islamic dictators has occurred in the past. Reading articles at frontpagemag.com might give you some insight into the results of engaging with Islamic dictators.
An excerpt from an article in frontpagemag.com is as follows:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=25370
“The British war effort was at the outset ambivalent, indecisive. From ’36 to ’39, when the Palestinian Arabs, upset by the influx of Jewish refugees from Hitler, started a three-year Intifada, the British Mandate authorities in Palestine alternated between grudging support of the embattled Jews and outright sabotage of their efforts at self-defense. On one hand, they made Jewish arms illegal, and forced the Hagana people to hide their store of antiquated rifles under kibbutz manure piles. On the other hand, they assigned one of their most brilliant field officers, Orde Wingate, to be a kind of T.E. Lawrence of the Jews, and to train them, in his Special Night Squads, in the arts of irregular warfare.”
“However, as the Brits mobilized for the coming war against Hitler, their policy makers resolved their ambivalence in favor of appeasing the Arabs, and outright hostility to the Jews. Together with Hitler, they acted so as to create the maximum tally of dead European Jews.”
“Thus, just before Hitler invaded Poland and intensified his own war against the Jews, the Brits – by imposing their strict White paper policy against unrestricted Jewish immigration to Palestine – became Hitler’s de facto collaborators in that war. The Brits, who were about to declare war on Germany for the sake of the Poles, at the same time allied themselves implicitly with Hitler’s war aims in regard to the Jews. Even as Hitler turned occupied Poland into a killing ground for trapped Jews, the British White Paper of 1939 restricting Jewish immigration locked them out of Palestine – the one refuge especially created (by the Balfour Declaration of 1921) to take them in. The Brits have never owned up to this, but they bear a responsibility for the Holocaust that is second only to that of Nazi Germany.”
Tell me, AJ, how many of those approximately 75 brave immigrants that cared enough to join our military and fight for this nation do you think were IL legal immigrants?
AJ
Florida is still a state that has somewhat of a housing boom. Yes it is not as strong as before, but we are still adding 1000 families a day to our population.
When the slowdown occurs, who do you think will lose their job first, the 17.00 per hour journeyman electrician native or the 8.00 per hour illegal?
AJ
A good example of what is to come is the Miami area here in Florida.
The non Hispanic population in Dade county is stable to declining. Old retires are dying off and not being replaced. There is little migration to the Dade county area by any race. The growth of the population there is over 85% purely from birthrates of the Hispanic community. Many non Hispanics are moving out of the Dade county area only to be followed by the expansion of the Hispanic population ever northward since there is little if any land left to develop in Dade county itself.
About 25 miles south of me across the county line, there are hundreds of acres of farm land dedicated to one crop. Ferns, yup those green leafy things shipped to florists around the US for flower arrangements. Take a weekend drive in the area and you will see hundreds of repo house trailers that have been placed 3 or 4 to a normal lot and you will see Hispanic families with 6 or 8 stairstep kids playing in the yard of each trailer.
I just came back from my local WalMart from doing a little shopping and I had to detour to another path with my shopping cart since 3 Hispanic families had stopped to chat in the middle of the aisle and blocked traffic.
By actual headcount the aisle was blocked by three families with a total of 26 kids.
AJ
I live in a rural county and we have one hospital for the entire county. I was at a county commission meeting a couple of weeks ago and the management of the hospital was there with their annual funding request to cover the shortfall due to non insured patients.
They doubled their funding request this year based on their statistics of the rapid growth of emergency room births. Our population is less than 6% Hispanic, but last year the hospital documented 72% of the total births insured or not were Hispanic. Even more shocking was the fact that 40% of Hispanic births at the hospital were to mothers under the age of 15.
Merlin,
I hear you about the stress illegal workers have on the infrastructure. But if we get them in the open economy and paying taxes that will help reduce that loading. Rounding them up costs money and will make the situation worse (and more expensive).
Just a reminder – the House Reps did NOTHING for your infrastructure pressures. The illegal workers are still here and still underground. That’s the result we measure the Reps on. They accomplished nothing. And now they have no political power. Oh well, they put themselves where they are.
Want to see the difference between a Bush Conservative and the Reps in denial?
http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/messagetopic.asp?p=3335537
Too funny. Reps are acting as I predicted.
Gigworld
You wouldn’t have had a problem with Britain allowing
several times the number of Jews in to eradicate the Palestinian natives , would you? Historian Dorothy Thompson said on a per capita basis, Zionists killed more Palestinians than Nazis killed Jews.
Strata
Rounding them up –and the sooner the better –is going to prevent
the ethnic wars which will occur wayyyyy before your vaunted
mythical al Qaeda takeover of America ever occurs.
Barbara
aybe we should allow the imams in to counter balance the
thousands of “Christian” ministers who preach that somehow
Jews, not Christians, are still “God’s Chosen People” and that
Israel is “God’s Chosen Nation” and must be protected and
supported regardless of its government’s policies. This is
the position of Falwell, Robertson, Graham and almost all
“evangelicals.” (It however is not traditional Christianity.)