Nov 29 2006
Pouty Webb
Typical Pouty James Webb - no wonder Reagen fired the buffoon. The guy lacks an ounce of class or maturity.
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Nov 29 2006
Published by AJStrata at 8:44 am under All General Discussions
Typical Pouty James Webb - no wonder Reagen fired the buffoon. The guy lacks an ounce of class or maturity.
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I am so embarrassed. I did NOT vote for this man. If this is how he is going to act, he will hear from me every time. How adolescent.
Same here. Plus, if he spouts nonsense about how Iraq had nothing to do with terrorism…
Some of us recognized his ’superiority’ complex before he was elected. He sure doesn’t have much respect for women. He has that in common with Muslims.
I have noticed that Americans in general seem not to take well to behavior such as this by Webb. People admire grace and some measure of class in how people interact with political opponents. Bush showed some degree of decorum by seeking out someone bitterly opposed to him and making a point to greet him. That Webb responded as he did will probably reflect poorly on his popularity in his region.
Webb now represents people across the entire spectrum of political thought. He didn’t win by a very large margin. He represents all Virginians as a Senator from their state and he should act like it. I still shake my head, though, at the people of Virginia who would elect such a jackass in the first place, though. They have six more years of antics like this to endure before they can correct it. This is a perfect example of why I think we should return the election of Senators to the state legislatures. Making the Senate directly elected was a huge mistake and ruined one of the checks and balances the founders set up for this country. The people elect the House, and the state legislatures elect the Senate. I believe we should return to that mechanism.
Strata
Quite the opposite. You’re the whiner,the Wilsonian Liberal; Webb’s the macho Conservative, refusing to make nice with a lying warmonger. Insteady of envying him, you ought to be singing the praises of his gun rights advocacy and his prescience that Iraq was
an unwinnable fiasco.
His association with Cong. Moran, who correctly said the organized
Zionist Lobby pushed America into Iraq is also laudable.
Harold Hutchison
Iraq had nothing to do with terrorism. Saddam gave a little
recompense to the Palestinian families whose homes were
bulldozed by the Israeli government in guilt-by-association
punishment—but Iran gives and gave them more, and they’re the winners of Bush’s debacle.
Intersting that you won’t see these same media outlets reporting this
Think about this for a second … this is HUGE. We have capture the Emir of Iraq, Emirs of Ramadi, Baquba, Tikrit, al Qaim, Bayji, and Baghdad … in 11 days! This is an amazing piece of work. We have rolled up most of the leadership of probably THE most important terrorist organization in Iraq.
Not a peep out of the mainstream media about it. No, only bad news, setbacks, deaths. Never report any good news.
http://www.940news.com/nouvelles.php?cat=24&id=112859
This kind of overkill is said to be commonplace of innocents and if true it is one reason why insurgents are easily replaced by angry
relatives and angry foreigners.
Webb made an ass of himself. That kind of pouty spoiled childish behaviour has no place in any workplace let alone the highest levels of government. Webb has enough strange tidbits in his background to give me pause and wonder if this guy is playing with a full deck, then to come right out of the box like this!? I would have been ashamed and embarrassed if I had voted for someone and they had acted like this. I’m betting there’s a lot of buyers remorse going on right now in Virginia. George Allen is a lot classier smarter guy.
P.S. Hi Ken, how are things in Berkeley?
AJ, I just had a thought, How do you think James Webb’s son feels about the words his father had with the president. I spent 20 years in the military and if my parents had ever whined to the president of the United States about wishing I was coming home, I be embarrassed as hell and hoping my shipmates didn’t find out about. How humiliating!
It is my observation that reports by civilians and news media of deaths of civilians, especially when it involves women and children, by US military have always, without exception, been proven to be wrong. The only deaths that you can be sure are reported correctly are reports that the US Military makes. If they say it, you can usually believe it. The others, always wrong.
If all the women and children that are reported by the enemy to be killed were really killed, Iraq would have run out of women and children a long time ago. There would have been mass graves all over Iraq. Other than the ones created by Saddam, I haven’t heard of any.
Some people will believe anything.
George Bush has Class
James Webb is an Ass
Bikerken, I think James Webb’s son would be terribly embarrassed as you said. The military people I knew and know would want an American Senator to be a person of integrity and class.
Virginia missed out.
When they called for someone with class, Webb thought they said they wanted an ass, so he volunteered.
Virginia, nor any state, deserves a James Webb.
I bet old Thomas Jefferson would be disappointed.
For Enforcement
“It is my observation that reports by civilians and news media of deaths of civilians, especially when it involves women and children, by US military have always, without exception, been proven to be wrong. The only deaths that you can be sure are reported correctly are reports that the US Military makes. If they say it, you can usually believe it.”
This TRUST in US government, belied by the cover-ups already
exposed, (military and civilian,) in relation to the war, is the
emotional equivalence of your “intellectual” BELIEF that
the Klan was founded in the North.
Bikerken
Webb is being hailed across many political demographics as a
hero for his disdain of the lying warmonger Bush. By the way,
the last surviving judge at Nuremberg said Bush should be tried
for war crimes.
Your assumption that US troops generally still believe in their
mission is very naeive.
I wonder if this idiot is under the impression that Marines get to pick where they go? In fact the first battle foght by the Marines on foreign soil was at the behest of Presdient Jefferson and the place was Tripoli. I bet ken would have been yammering away at Thomas Jefferson for being a baby killing imperialist too.
BTW, speaking of civilian deaths have you all read the accounts of Flopping Aces about the fictitious Iraqi Police Captain who was been playing Baghdad Bob to a gullible AP by making stuff up. Maybe Ken is moonlighting.
Ken:
Like it or not Bush is the president of the United States and Webb’s behavior was nothing more than an adolescent fit, much like my teenage niece has when her Dad refuses to give her gas money.
And btw I have seen Bush deal with a lot of people, including Bill Clinton and he is always gracious, he is always a gentleman. Webb is just a jerk. Anyone can be a jerk, it requires no special. After all, look at you.
Ken:
From what I have heard and read the majority of American troops still support the mission and the president. I know it is amazing to you to think that they do not appreciate being called murderers, or stupid, or illiterate or failures, but in fact the average soldier believes in his country and his mission. Just because you hate America and love Saddam and think that soldiers are morons does not make it true.
http://www.zogby.com/NEWS/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1075
Beg to differ, Terrye-and the belief in the mission has deteriorated
as conditions have.
Bet you also believe the half dozen or so polls of Iraqis taken from
2004 to the present which show majority support of both
Shia and Sunni for insurgent attacks on US troops are contrived
too. Only the Kurds oppose them.
Oh for heaven’s sake Ken, not that sad silly totally discredited and meaningless push poll by Zogby that has become a major embarassment for them? No one believes that. Besides, there are also polls out there that show 2/3 of these guys voted for Bush. Why do you think the press hates them so much?
Forget the poll, look at the reelistments. Record numbers signing up to do another tour.
And you know what? Being a jerk is not a sign of standing up to anyone, it is just being a jerk. I have seen Bush be a gentleman with people he had disagreements with, that is what adults do.
I still can beleive this porno moron got elected,specially in Va.
And you know what Ken? I think the fact that millions of Iraqis actually risked their lives to vote means something. You don’t, you think a poll is more important than a real vote. You think a poll is more important than reelistment in a voluntary military. You also ignore the fact that the Iraqi poll states that if they believed that Americans were actually going to leave they did not support targetting them. A couple of things, I have my doubts about a poll in a country like Iraq, too many variables and too much bad history, but one thing is for certain. There are almost 27 million Iraqis, in more than three years we have lost less Americans in Iraq than died right here on 9/11. So it seems the Iraqis are not trying nearly as hard to kill Americans as they are each other right now. And even then you have to wonder if the Iraq war is really a “cause celebre” for terrorists from all over the Middle East, how can it be called a civil war? Can’t have it both ways.
And the other thing, is where do the people of Iraq get the idea that we are going to steal their oil? Who feeds that paranoia, knowing full well it gets people killed? Folks like you Ken, not only do not support the war effort, you enjoy undermining the process in the hopes that your country will fail and more people will die. That says something rather unpleasant about you.
I think the most telling thing about people like you Ken is that if you given the choice between Iraq becoming a successful and self sustaining society and endless bloodshed, you would pick the latter because it fits your malicious preconceptions.
Terrye
” So it seems the Iraqis are not trying nearly as hard to kill Americans as they are each other right now. And even then you have to wonder if the Iraq war is really a “cause celebre” for terrorists from all over the Middle East, how can it be called a civil war? Can’t have it both ways.”
Gee, Terrye,you believe those totals might have something to do with the relative protective body armor,tanks, and fortresses & Green Zone protection Americans have while native victims of the unwanted occupation do not?
And yeah, you can have it both ways, Terrye, a civil war can proceed
contemperanously with an insurgency. Sorry if your too simplistic to see that.
“Oh for heaven’s sake Ken, not that sad silly totally discredited and meaningless push poll by Zogby that has become a major embarassment for them? No one believes that”
I bet a good many of the 65% of Americans opposed to the war have taken polls like this into account–and the neocons who live in
the insulated bubble of Limbaugh, Hannity and the Weekly Standard
might beleive Zogby has been discredited, but see, Terrye, their
perspective is like that of a Heaven’s Gater taking off for
the mother ship at the tail of the Hale Bopp comet…It’s a little
“off.”
Reenlistments? In this service economy of high individual debt
many servicepeople feel trapped.
Webb got elected because he was a marine, and he has a son in theatre. I bet his son wishes he would STFU.
Please don’t say “virginians” were stupid, I’m a Virginian and I voted for Allen. Allen has more class in his little finger than the entire democratic party put together.
Hey Ken blahblahblahblahblahblah…
The babbling of a babbling idiot
Not you Linda
We have the WaPo to thank for the Webb win. Allen ran a lousy campaign, but the nonstop smear campaign waged by the WaPo was very effective. And it clearly helped Webb that this neanderthal (Webb) was given a free ride by the press. Vast majority of dems and indies who voted for him have no idea that he is far from a liberal dem … jerk, bafoon, sexist, unstable are some other words that come to mind. Crosspatch had interesting post about state legislatures voting for Senators … hmmm?.
As usual, Ken is clueless about Iraq & the ME. And I’d like for one of these lib, Bush-haters to actually cite one lie. They can’t.
LOL@enforcement - I know what you mean.
Yes, the constant harping on Allen was infuriating. Dems can say anything and none of it gets in the MSM. The horrible thing is, Allen is a really nice guy.
There was a local media drive to “Teach the Repubs a lesson” - you couldn’t get through to anyone that this was not the time for a lesson, there was too much at stake. The buyer’s remorse has already set in. The conservatives took what little Webb said about the war, and assumed he meant “beat the poop out of them and then come home. ” Instead, now they’re hearing “I want them out.” It’s not what they expected.
If we could just just detach northern VA - they don’t belong here. I think they should form their own state - or we could give them to DC - DC could use the extra revenue. The rest of us don’t need it.
AJ, you might want to post a sign: “Please Don’t Feed the Troll” :0)
Strata
Boy, the envy-ridden months-long faulty analysis of your in-state race wherein you confidently dissected an Allen victory over Webb really rubbed off on your out of states fans.