Dec 11 2006
The Emerging “Dirty Bomb” Theory
Finally we are seeing some people using science, analysis and logic to address the fact we have a series of sworn enemies of Russia, who are aligned with allies of Al Qaeda, turning up exposed to massive amounts of Polonium 210 (compared the amount needed to kill one person), a material used in nuclear bomb triggers and a good candidate for a dirty bomb:
Therefore, without sounding as unhinged as the conspiratorial hordes that we seek to expose, we must seriously consider the possibility that Litvinenko was not assassinated but died after somehow exposing himself to Plutonium 210. The “dirty bomb†theory is one of the most likely means of exposure. Plutonium 210 has certain industrial uses that make it relatively easy to obtain; however, Litvinenko was not involved in any business that would have had a legitimate reason to use Plutonium 210. He was, however, intimately involved with a Chechen terrorist organization that had, in the past, made a “dirty bomb†from radioactive material similar to Plutonium 210. The possibility, therefore, exists that Litvinenko was at some point in a location where Plutonium 210 was being used to assemble a terrorist weapon. Such a prospect is far more disconcerting then your simple, run of the mill, Kremlin-ordered “hit†of a political dissident; and it is a possibility which should be explored by the British government and the civilized world.
Indeed it is. One thing not being reported is whether anyone thinks they have accounted for all the Polonium 210 associated with Berezovsky’s long time associates (Litvnenko and Lugovoi). These are not Putin’s people. A dirty bomb is a realistic option in this case.
I don’t think the interview with Lugovoi was the least bit interesting. He was obviously lying the whole time. Slinking around like a spy in a bad novel. He offered no explanation about how he became contaminated. He said nothing about his schedule that day beyond visiting Erinys. What about his visit to Bereszovsky’s office? All he really did was trash Litvinenko telling the press what a loser he was and how successful he (Lugovoi) is in comparison. He did a lot of back tracking.
And Kovtun’s explanation on how he stood so close to Litvinenko and that’s how he became so contaminated. And had to shave his head because he became sunburned. Baloney. Double baloney. He has no explanation on how he contaminated so many places in Hamburg before the meeting on Nov. l. Doesn’t mention it but then this was probably before the Germans announced his contamination. They are both in the hospital with radiation poisoning. And could not have gotten it through casual meetings. They are both lying through their teeth. But then I would never expect them to tell any form of the truth. They were mixed up in this smuggling and do not want to incriminate themselves.
I don’t know why the assassination theorists cannot let go of murder. First it was Putin who did it and now it is his fellow smugglers. What is so difficult about a simple accident? They happen every day. Much more often than murder. This would explain why all three of these guys were contaminated in such a severe way.
Has anyone noticed that Litvinenko made a stab at helping the authorities by telling some of the places he went on the fatal day but not all of them? He did not expect to die. He certainly did not want them to find out about the smuggling. Everybody seems to forget about the time from 12 to three. There has never been any explanation for this time slot.
I also thought it strange they said Litvinenko had said he poisoned himself.
Has anyone considered that since Litvinenko is the first to die, that he was doing the poisoning?
Just a thought.
I think that may be a translation thing, ts..
TS I think they were trying to suggest that Litvinenko poisoned himself and that also they were trying to say he says all sorts of things that are a bit exaggerated….he is uncouth – he can’t talk to business people, he embarresses us in business deals, he is impossible to talk to about politics etc etc…they were painting a very unflattering picture of Litvinenko who claims in one breath he’s poisoned himself and in the next breath eats a big meal
It has occurred to me that Litvinenko was the first exposure somewhere and that the acute attack he had Nov. 1 was a stomach flu and a coincidence and not necessarily the result of acute PO poisoning. That’s not the conventional thinking but I think it is something that should be thought about medically which might say something about the timing of all this
Ts, Kovtun also said that he burned himself on a sunbed… I’m not sure his claims are so trustworthy…
If he had been contaminated for some time, he could have had a weakened immune system making him vulnerable to almost anything.
–I’m not sure his claims are so trustworthy…–
True, true and I am taking all with a grain of salt, it just made me think of the timing of all this…if the 2 Russians are transporting this and leaving a trail, it is off that Litvinenko dies first and now the other 2 are dead men walking….(of course that just could just mean Litvinenko had a huge dose)
It’s all a mystery wrapped in an enigma, isn’t it?
ODD, not off
I think it may have been a mistranslation for food poisoning. Had he truly said “poisoned himself”, we’d have heard this from other sources a long time ago..certainly his wife would have mentioned it.
In the Spiegel interview Lugovoi says he might have been ‘marked’ with polonium, and that in Moscow ‘suspects’ are frequently ‘marked’, for example when corruption cases are being investigated. Is this another red herring? Even if it is, was the trail meant to be discovered or not?
TS, it really is a mystery wrapped in an enigma… just amazing. Did Lugovoi and Kovtun know what they were carrying, even if they were involved in assassination and/or smuggling? That seems unlikely, though I guess we really need to know how sick they are (cf. the reports that Kovtun was in a coma, and his lawyer saying he was fine).
Lugovoi says he might have been ‘marked’ with polonium, and that in Moscow ’suspects’ are frequently ‘marked’, for example when corruption cases are being investigated.
I noticed this too. Suggests to me that Lugovoi knew he was on Putin’s list…
So if Lugovoi was, maybe he was willing to smuggle out P210 in order to expose the state sanctioned illicit materials/weapons trading Putin was conducting? (I am still pushing this ::wink::)
topsecretk9,
Imagine that somehow Lugovoi and Kovtun learn they are contaminated through their smuggling and have possibly contaminated loved ones. They do a google on polonium and discover it is one of the deadliest substances known. They need to get to a doctor or there is a good chance they are soon going to need to but if they do so, the smuggling ring is exposed. How do they justify being contaminated?
How do they justify being contaminated and why does Scaramella “rush” to London to give Litvinenko information that Litvinenko has already had for four years?
That der Spiegel thing about being marked was curious – was Lugovoi trying to suggest that potential criminals are “marked” with PO so they can be tailed – wonder what he meant by this other than trying to suggest that BORIS B. was “marked” as he is in fact a under charges in Moscow or that he Lugovoi was a suspect ? I think he is just spewing false PO so we look elsewhere and not at him – I think Luguvoi even up until today is engaged in a major PR campaign of his own – though his days are really numbered. Kovtun is dying no doubt – he’s already lost his hair.
Or even better, why does Boris’ friend send information to Scaramella causing him to rush it to Litvinenko. Information that would tend to point the finger at Russia if anything were to happen to Litvinenko … but again, information Litvinenko got 4 years earlier from the same original source (the FSB guy who has been in prison since May of 2004)
TS, perhaps the ‘polonium marking’ story is just another desparate attempt to throw people off the scent (of a smuggling or assassination plot), like the sunbed claim. I.e. throw out as many theories as one can and drown the real story.
Clarice, I don’t know that we can believe anything at all that Lugovoi and Kovtun are saying. The Spiegel interview strikes me as just like all that Julia Svetlichnaja stuff — as many incidents as they can scrape together to paint an unflattering image of Litvinenko and discredit him. If Lugovoi truly felt he was an embarrassment and a waste of their time in all of these meetings, then why did he keep coming back to London to meet with him? That part doesn’t add up.
Probably not with polonium but probably by a MUCH less harmful but just as easily traced isotope so their movements can be monitored. For example, you are doing a criminal investigation on someone. You “mark” them with a small amount of a fairly harmless isotope that is easy to track. You find residue at some location. You know that person has been in that location.