Dec 11 2006

The Emerging “Dirty Bomb” Theory

Finally we are seeing some people using science, analysis and logic to address the fact we have a series of sworn enemies of Russia, who are aligned with allies of Al Qaeda, turning up exposed to massive amounts of Polonium 210 (compared the amount needed to kill one person), a material used in nuclear bomb triggers and a good candidate for a dirty bomb:

Therefore, without sounding as unhinged as the conspiratorial hordes that we seek to expose, we must seriously consider the possibility that Litvinenko was not assassinated but died after somehow exposing himself to Plutonium 210. The “dirty bomb” theory is one of the most likely means of exposure. Plutonium 210 has certain industrial uses that make it relatively easy to obtain; however, Litvinenko was not involved in any business that would have had a legitimate reason to use Plutonium 210. He was, however, intimately involved with a Chechen terrorist organization that had, in the past, made a “dirty bomb” from radioactive material similar to Plutonium 210. The possibility, therefore, exists that Litvinenko was at some point in a location where Plutonium 210 was being used to assemble a terrorist weapon. Such a prospect is far more disconcerting then your simple, run of the mill, Kremlin-ordered “hit” of a political dissident; and it is a possibility which should be explored by the British government and the civilized world.

Indeed it is. One thing not being reported is whether anyone thinks they have accounted for all the Polonium 210 associated with Berezovsky’s long time associates (Litvnenko and Lugovoi). These are not Putin’s people. A dirty bomb is a realistic option in this case.

197 responses so far

197 Responses to “The Emerging “Dirty Bomb” Theory”

  1. Lizarde1 says:

    test

  2. topsecretk9@AJ says:

    .BERLIN, Dec. 11 (Xinhua) — A German radiation expert doubted Monday that Russia involved in the polonium-210 poisoning of former Russian spy Alexander Litvenenko.

    Sebastian Pflugbeil, president of the German Society for Radiation Protection, told ARD national television that he would not rule out the possibility that the poisoners had deliberately strewn traces of the isotope in London and Hamburg to mislead people.

    “If you keep polonium in a tightly shut vial, you can transport it without contamination and don’t leave any dirty trail,” he said, adding it was too obvious to be credible.

    “Either these killers were rank amateurs, or, and I think this is also plausible, a trail has been deliberately created to cast suspicion in a certain direction,” Pflugbeil said.

    “What is remarkable here is the way it was done,” he said, “Secret agents are normally trained to kill without leaving any evidence. But in this case, it’s not just a trail. They have practically bulldozed a superhighway all the way to Moscow. They wanted to make a spectacle of it.”

    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2006-12/12/content_5471704.htm

  3. Lizarde1 says:

    washing machine and clean and dirty clothes contaminated ex wife

  4. Lizarde1 says:

    3 posts got lost on this subject – German publication Sz online reporting this – relate this to the Millenium and the dish washer
    and the cup????

  5. mariposa says:

    CP, true enough, but why wouldn’t your home country immediately put you in custody and make it known that you were under investigation there? (Unless, of course, somebody important already knows all about what you were up to, and they will take care of you and your family?)

    Lugovoi and Kovtun are just in the hospital in Russia, as for as Russian officials are concerned. They are supposedly victims of attempted murder.

    CP, as for your “cell poisoning” theory — that is exactly what a former KGB officer in exile says happened — a “nest poisoning.” I think it was Oleg Gordievsky, but I could be wrong about that.

  6. crosspatch says:

    “CP, true enough, but why wouldn’t your home country immediately put you in custody and make it known that you were under investigation there?”

    Who says they haven’t? Besides, in the condition they are in, they are probably going to need to be in the custody of the hospital anyway.

    So far we are all simply speculating. The authorities in this case have much better information than we do.

  7. mariposa says:

    “Who says they haven’t? ”

    The press, CP. Russia has not said that they are in custody or under investigation.

  8. crosspatch says:

    A: No crime was committed in Russia. I don’t know Russian laws but it might be against their law to arrest someone who has committed no crime in the country.

    B: I do believe they are investigating and assisting Scotland Yard. I have not heard any complaints from the British about the Russian behavior so far. I only hear complaints from people speculating on websites.

  9. crosspatch says:

    I believe when the German newspaper did the interview in Russia at Kotvun’s house, the police were there, no?

  10. crosspatch says:

    “Gazprom has just taken over Shell”

    Gee, Clarice, that article doesn’t say that at all.

    It says:

    “Royal Dutch Shell has offered to cede control of the $22 billion Sakhalin-2 project, Russia’s biggest single foreign investment, to state gas monopoly Gazprom after months of pressure, industry sources say.

    Agreement in principle was reached at talks last week for Shell to reduce its 55 per cent holding to a blocking stake of at least one-quarter in the world’s largest liquefied natural gas (LNG) project, the sources said.

    “Gazprom has yet to decide on Shell’s proposals because the project’s problems, including ecological problems, remain in place.”

    A doubling of estimated costs at Sakhalin derailed an earlier deal under which Shell would have swapped a one-quarter stake in Sakhalin for an interest in Gazprom’s Zapolyarnoye gas field, located north of the Arctic Circle in West Siberia.

    So it looks like that project is very expensive and Shell isn’t getting completely out of it, they are just reducing their ownership below 50%.

  11. the good doctor says:

    I am impressed with all this knowledge of Russia you’ll have. Do you follow Russia close always or since this event?

  12. clarice says:

    I read it as muscling Shell out of control by imposing a variety of “incentives” to do so. So does Steve Gilbert.
    CP there is no indication the police were at that interview at all IIRC..

  13. crosspatch says:

    Okay, I thought I read something about the police being there or having been there.

  14. crosspatch says:

    I read it as Shell wanting completely out but the Russians not letting them until the environmental mess was cleaned up.

  15. crosspatch says:

    This was a key part too:

    “Now, sources familiar with the matter say, Gazprom will swap field assets and may make a cash payment for a controlling stake of over 50 per cent in Sakhalin-2, currently operated by Shell.”

  16. crosspatch says:

    “I am impressed with all this knowledge of Russia you’ll have. Do you follow Russia close always or since this event?”

    We have our own Holiday Inn Express.

  17. mariposa says:

    Clarice, Russia seems to be the same, a thugocracy.

    “I believe when the German newspaper did the interview in Russia at Kotvun’s house, the police were there, no?”

    No CP, not if you mean the Der Spiegel interview taken at what was thought to be Lugovoi’s country house outside Moscow? The police were not there, as far as the reporters stated, unless they were hidden inside the “dirty” house.

    I think that whatever Lugovoi and Kovtun were up to, it was not against Mother Russia’s best interests or wishes, and that they are now being taken care of.

    Lizarde, please help me find the information that you have about Lugovoi returning from Armenia.

    Good Doctor, I’m afraid I know much less about Russia than the average Russian knows about the USA, and that embarrasses me. But I once worked researching the Balkans, and this topic interests me.

  18. Enlightened says:

    OT – I wonder where these three people that were tailing Politkovskaya are off to? One was a woman – interesting.

  19. crosspatch says:

    “Russian prosecutors have opened their own probe into Litvinenko’s murder and the attempted murder of Kovtun, and Russia’s Prosecutor General Yuri Chaika’s office has said it planned to send investigators to London as part of the inquiry.”

    From AP

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