Dec 15 2006
Lugovoi Definitely Berezovsky Ally
I was going to add this in a long line of comments to answer someone’s question, and decided to make a post for everyone to find. Lugovoi was definitely an ally of Berezovsky’s – so the assassination theory seems a little more stretched than it was before. And it explains why Goldfarb first tried to divert suspicion from Lugovoi. Now that Lugovoi is a participating witness (prossibly under a plea agreement) Berezvosky’s mouth piece is having to change tactics. Looks like everyman is now out for themselves in a battle that could put someone away for life. I am wondering more and more whether the Litvinenko incident and the spat of killings is really the preparation for some kind of coup d’etat in Russia.
But a nagging problem is the fact that Boris Berezovsky is connected to everyone involved here. If Boris were involed in a smuggling ring of polonium, I would be very interested to know where it was going given his past history of arming Chechens.
“someone who knew too much and might be tempted to blab.”
If you want to shut someone up, you don’t do it with a poison that takes three weeks to kill them.
Crosspath,
“He decides to have Litinenko wacked with polonium making it look like the Russians did it.”
Looks plausible. But to accomplish this you do not call somebody in Moscow and tell him to fly to London with polonium, right ?
It’s better to put Litvinenko in difficult financial position, navigate him to smuggling and then use a side effect of smuggling as a PR opportunity.
No, you do it in the course of your regular smuggling operation with the final shipment. Maybe that is why Litivineko went to Boris’ office, for payment having finished the job. I don’t think they counted on Lugovoi and Kovtun being so contaminated.
And Goldfarb tossing Kovtun under a bus like he seems to be doing has a funny smell to it. It is also how Goldfarb, in the article, is presented as “a friend of Litvinenko’s” rather than a another Boris Berezovsky employee.
Crosspath,
“I don’t think they counted on Lugovoi and Kovtun being so contaminated. ”
It looks like Lugovoy is not contaminated:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1103AP_Poisoned_Spy.html
He may not be poisoned, but he was contaminated. His airplane seats and hotel rooms show contamination on all three trips going back to October 16.
He also said his home and office were both contaminated.
From that link you gave:
The word “also” being important in that sentance.
According to “Russian Officials” being even more important –
Crosspatch,
“He may not be poisoned, but he was contaminated. His airplane seats and hotel rooms show contamination on all three trips going back to October 16. ”
Yes I was wrong, sorry about that.
Another interesting news: MI5 chief quits
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=422970&in_page_id=1770
I’m begining to think that these hospital stays by Lugovoi and Kovtun are, like the money trail, a way to determine if there is or isn’t a serious story here.
Just why are they in a hospital, do they have any symptoms (it’s several weeks now that we know they’ve been exposed to Po), why should they remain secluded in a hospital?
I’d be very interested in any insight a medical doctor could contribute here… it this whole hospital story obviously bogus?
Jerry, radiation can damage the immune system. It takes no time at all to determine if they are contaminated, so that much seems to be certain. But tests to determine the extent of damage can take longer. For example: are their white cell counts normal? If low are the continuing to decrease or are they rebounding? Tests such as those take time because they must be done over a period of time.
You don’t let people with a compromised immune system have access to a lot of visitors, at leat not until you are sure they are going to die anyway. Alpha radiation can kill bone marrow. If the bown marrow dies, there is really very little that can be done to save you.
Their being in a hospital so far is consistant with the contamination they might have been exposed to. Don’t worry, Jerry, it won’t last forever.
“According to “Russian Officials†being even more important”
In what way? I am assuming that the British investigators have verified this to their satisfaction and it would be a simple matter to do so. The British haven’t complained as far as I know.
Actually about 12 persons were already questioned in Moscow now crimial police ( called Petrovka 38 for the address of the headquaters) rumored to be ready to open its own investigation about smuggling.
See http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/polonium/1156556.shtml
You can use Google translate to any russian press page to get a reasonable translation of the page
http://www.google.com/translate_t
To view already translated page mentioned above please use:
http://www.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gazeta.ru%2Fpolitics%2Fpolonium%2F1156556.shtml&langpair=ru%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF8
But CP, with all respect, neither you nor I are MDs. It there a reason to keep them in a hospital when there is no observable effect on white cell count? If they developed an infection couldn’t they just go back for a follow up? If there is no nausea or hair loss, or any of these other indicators… why be there at all? For all we know this is clearly a charade from the perspective of someone with the appropriate medical experience.
Sorry if this a repeat. This thread went from zero to 100 in no time
Unnamed friend.
http://www.kxly.com/news/?sect_rank=6§ion_id=563&story_id=7022
The “Friend” is Goldfarb … Boris Berezovsky’s publicist … or lawyer … or something.
Nevermind…
And looks like I am a little late to the party, old five hour news!
Hard to keep up CrossP.