Dec 22 2006
No More Terrorist Watch List
Thanks to some privacy groups who more concerned with our government knowing anything about them – as opposed to knowing enough about people travelling here to protect us from attack – it appears the terrorist watch list has been removed from our national defenses:
A counter-terrorism measure by the U.S. Transportation Security Administration violated the 1974 Privacy Act, The Washington Post reported.
Secure Flight, the program to screen domestic air passengers for names on terrorism watch lists violated the law by not notifying the public of its measures, according to a report released Friday by the Department of Homeland Security.
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TSA also reportedly improperly stored more than 100 million records after saying that their data would not be mixed with commercial data and that no such storage would happen.
The U.S. Congress has halted secure Flight and officials at TSA are promising to work in a more “transparent” way while planning to re-implement the program in 2008, the newspaper reported.
And now not only are we not screening passengers to see if they are known terrorists – we have the Washington Post announcing the news to the world, and the terrorists. There is a saying that just because you can do something doesn’t mean you have to. For example, anyone is capable of picking their nose in the middle of a busy highway at night, it is not advised to do so. One has to wonder at the thought processes (or lack of them) which went into this entire debacle. And now we have completely opened up air transportation inside this country to anyone with a credit card and a desire to fly.
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Privacy Groups Get Terrorist Watch List Nixed…
I’m sure it won’t be long before the ACLU applauds this.
AJ Strata tells us:
Thanks to some privacy groups who more concerned with our government knowing anything about them – as opposed to knowing enough about people travelling here t…
Easy way to fix this:
Strip search everyone, make everybody show up much earlier and slow down security checkpoints. Then make “express” checkpoints for people who voluntarily give background information. That way the government doesn’t “collect” anything, they are given the information willingly and the default is to simply treat every passenger as if they are a potential terrorist.
This is just sick, in a second part of the Zawahiri tape released today, he sends negotiations instructions to the Democrats and says the Democrats weren’t the winners in the elections, that al Qaida is.
I have to wonder when Pelosi is going to travel for a photo op with Zawahiri.
Crosspatch
If that was done there would be vastly fewer flyers and the airlines would go bankrupt. I wonder how far the country will let this PC madness go. It seems everytime something is done to protect us someone objects and stops it. It makes you wonder what their agenda is. Only those with something to hide worry about privacy in times like these. Do you suppose one of the objecters in this is CAIR?
It wouldn’t surprise me. So-called privacy takes a back seat in these times. I call it so-called privacy because there is no such animal as privacy.
It was probably the “traveling imams” that caused this. That and the election of Dems to control our security..
I’d be surprised if Sandy Burglar hadn’t already taken the list and hid it under a Construction trailer.
The Dems objectives seem to be that you will have your privacy AND you’ll be dead. Just my way of thinking but privacy won’t help me much after I’m dead.
Some warped thinking people will see all this as a good thing. Especially the ACLU, the most Anti-American organization in the world.
The Dem win and nostalgia for the 90’s is what is driving this. If Bill Clinton could ignore terror threats, and nothing much happened, we can surely pretend we are back in the 90’s.
Strata prefers a WORLD POLICEMAN GOVERNMENT and
its concomitant accourtement, a police state at home.
Ken your interpretation of events, policy and ideas is so UNBELIEVABLY STUPID. PLEASE SPARE US!
Kathie
The majority evidently does not wish to be subjects.
Crosspatch, Barbara,
I couldn’t agree more, this PC society has sickened and corrupted us. I hope and pray that we’ll avert another major attack but I’m afraid a return to normalcy will require a second dose.
Ken: You are a tool. May I suggest Glenn Greenwald, they’ll listen to you there.
AJ,
We are fighting two enemies : the enemy without and the enemy within. They work in tandem.
BTW Ken,
May I give you some advice? When you want to do some trolling on conservative blogs, I suggest you be polite, reasonable, and rational, otherwise you will be dismissed out of hand. When I troll the leftist blogs I am always exceedingly polite, otherwise I know I am wasting my time.
Since you are an uncivil brute, believe me: You’re wasting your time here. Try another conservative blog where you’re not known, and again, civility helps.
IMy methodology is working fine here. Of course, the continuing
bloody debacle of the losing no-win Iraq War girds the smooth sail.
Ms Pelosi has said no to C-SPAN opting out of transparency in the house, while her chums are giving terrorists cover at airports. Anything wrong with this picture?
I think Ken is probably Mohamed sitting in a cave with an arabic- english dictionary.
Ken is correct, his methodology does work as long as people continue to address and talk about him. He does this mainly for the attention.
I still think he in some cave or works for the dnc.
Who do you work for? The plutocrat GOP which betrays working/middle class people with the free trade ripoffs?
And your dear leader has done such a fine job in stanching
the Mexican invasion-his kind loves that cheap labor.
Or maybe an illegal imigrant with an english spanish dictionary…..in a tunnel at the border. Crosspatch what do you think?
Parody is ineffectual against the somber and foreboding atmosphere descended on America driven by the losing Iraq War war you all still support. Good doctor, are you in the behavior ncihe of medicine?
An alarmingly high percentage of the troops are coming home with serious problems-like in Vietnam? Perhaps you can profit?
Good Doctor, you may be onto something. People who live in caves have nothing but time on their hands.
Allah akbar, Ken?
If aterrorist turns up on a plane and it turns out he got on there because his name could not be released, well there will be hell to pay.
No one wants the government to do more than it has to, but I remember after 9/11 the question people asked the most, was how could they get away with this? How could that many terrorists get on that many planes in one day? People expect their government to protect them, it has nothing to do with being the world police. The truth is if any of these people were trying to get on a plane in Great Britain they would have to answer these kinds of questions.
To our troll brothers, there was an interesting discussion at the VC recently (sorry no link) on the effectiveness of sarcasm as a rhetorical device. Pretty much everyone agreed that used with a light touch, it can make a point, used with a heavy hand, it falls flat, so if the shoe fits ….
“home with serious problems-like in Vietnam?”
Exactly right- We came home to serious problems. Leftists who would stab veterans in the back for defending America. Leftists who went to Paris, met with the enemies of America, adopted their positions and promoted them in America. American leftists, who were controlled by the North Vietnam government and the American Communist Party.
Today, coming home from Iraq, America soldiers are faced with American leftists doing everything they can to destroy America at the direction of the terrorists of the world. It certainly is a serious problem.
One that won’t be cured until America finds the backbone necessary to
enforce Art III, Sec III of the US Constitution.
Yeah Pagar, the Domino Theory really was verified in the Vietnam debacle. We’re all living in a one-world Communist Tyranny now.
And Pagar-how about Congress showing some backbone and
voting to declare war if they wish it, as the Constitition provides?
Better yet, when the president offers false intelligence to justify a war why doesn’t the Congress do a little investigating of that intelligence
before they allow an attack on an innocent country?
I think Ken is probably Mohamed sitting in a cave with an arabic- english dictionary.
I think you may be right, Doc, he lost me with “concomitant accourtement”. Well, actually, “concomitant” I understand, but I can’t find “accourtement” in any of my dictionaries. I swore I would never respond to Ken again, but trying to make sense out of most of his posts is more entertaining than doing the crossword puzzles in the newspaper. Truth be known, regardless of whether or not he resides in a cave, he’s just a pathetic, little man who fancies himself possessing an intellect far in excess of what God actually gave him.
Agree Spook. Those words coul also be signs of grandiose psychosis.
Good Doctor and Retired Spook
Ken probably meant concomitant accourterments or accompaning soldiers equipment. He left off the “r” which could have gone after or before the first “e”. Ken consults the dictionary on a daily basis and uses words not likely to be used in conversation or anything else other than textbooks. I took four years of Latin and thought that I could recognize any word on this basis, but Ken has stumped me several times. I think he reads the dictionary like it was a novel and enjoys using these words to puff up his intellect. Too bad he failed.
Barbara, I think you’ve nailed it except “accouterments” only has one “r”. It can also be spelled “accoutrements”. In any event, Ken was, as FE is so fond of saying, “wrong again”, heh. I suspect what Ken needs, more than anything, is a good woman in his life. I know several women who really dig French guys, especially French, Muslim guys.
Ken, channel the 20 million or so dominos who were slaughtered after the left forced us the leave Vietnam to our everlasting shame and get their thoughts on the domino theory. The msm hasn’t touted it much, but Vietnam has gone all capitalist and is on the verge of becoming the next Asian economic powerhouse. Perhaps even the next Asian country to join Japan & India as part of the Anglosphere. Good thing for them we don’t hold a grudge, eh?
With even Daniel Ortega seeing the error of his Communist ways and converting to an anti-abortionist Catholic and Sweden turning down welfare on demand because too many Swedes are going from cradle to grave without working a day in their lives, and Fidel Castro’s rotting corpse being picked over by his “lieutenants” ala Arafat before his death can be officially announced, lots of other examples, but I think you get the drift, there are so few leftwing icons left.
BTW – there’s a huge a difference between how vets returning from fighting in Vietnam and fighting the WoT are received by We, the People. The military are cheered wherever they are. I’ve seen tired, listless people sitting in airports rise up as one to cheer soldiers coming off flights. Young and old cheering and whistling and thanking these brave soldiers for protecting us and keeping us safe.
They’re protecting you too Ken because that’s our way. Freedom and justice for all. You’re free to be you, Ken, and I hope the justice part is just around the corner.
Spook, did you notice, Ken finally admitted that Congress should declare war if they wish it instead of, as he has been maintaining, that they ‘Must’
his quote:
” And Pagar-how about Congress showing some backbone and
voting to declare war if they wish it, as the Constitition provides?
Actually he still didn’t get it quite right, as the constitution requires, but at least he’s closer.
And Barbara and Spook, Ken’s problem with spelling is most likely having English as a second language and having to translate back and forth into French is probably a little confusing to him. If you’ve noticed, I’ve shown some of his misspelled words as being the French spelling vs English. That, and the fact that he comprehends on about a 3rd grade level and tries to write like a grown up and uses big words that he finds in the dictionary.
Oh, he’s a piece of work. As Spook said, he’s entertaining just trying to figure him out. His other habit of course is to call people names because he never successfully attacks their message, so he just attacks the messenger. He does use untruths fairly frequently, trying to keeps those straight is almost full time.
ERP
You gave the wrong definition of the domino theory which predicted
all Southeast Asia would become commie under a monolithic
structure-instead they fell to warring agaisnt each other,mirroring the Sino-Soviet split which the theorists claimed would heal enabling the two to work in concert toward an international Communist government which would ultimately conquer America if we did not win in Vietnam.
Exactly paralleled by Strata’s fearmongering about al Qaeda
effecting an international caliphate if America doesn’t continue to
war with Islam in their native regions.
Your victims were cause largely by America setting off the powderkeg in the first place.
Ken, I 0ffered no definition of the domino theory.
“Ken, channel the 20 million or so dominos who were slaughtered after …”
Yes you did, you’re just not skilled enough in debate or logic to realize it.
Erp- you never heard of Iraq Vets Against the War, or Vets Against
The Iraq War? Very popular with troops and can be googled
and contacted,along with several other like groups.
For Enforcement
You misspelled a word as “commendable” while lecturing Gil on his supposed defecient language skills. If you weren’t senile, you’d be the biggest hypocrite on the site- and most inane.
I found it really hilarious when Ken said congress must declare war and the states had to ratify that declaration. I corrected him at that time. That alone shows he is either not an American or a remarkably dumb one.
I think Ken has a new toy. A thesaurus. He enjoys playing with it on a daily basis just to access big words no one ever uses to make us think his intellect is high. Too bad the content of his posts are so stupid and defeats his purpose.
Ken, it was comprehendable that I made the typo on. Geez now your memory is going also.
From that same post:
defecient, I suppose that’s French for deficient. Sounds like a version of Crap.
Bikerken, don’t you just hate it when Ken chews through his leather straps and starts foaming at the mouth? And now he’s done it with a French Muslim/English thesaurus. Oh well, here comes the onslaught.
“I found it really hilarious when Ken said congress must declare war and the states had to ratify that declaration. I corrected him at that time. That alone shows he is either not an American or a remarkably dumb one.”
No dear, I corrected you when you misinterpreted the states
ratification part and you need correcting again.
For Enforcement
Have you corrected Barbara’s misspelling of Al Qaeda
as al Quaeda yet?
Ken
Thank you for correcting my spelling of Al Quaeda (oops, wrong again). Since you are so up on the spelling of this admirable -in -your- eyes organization could it possibly be that you are a member -in -good -standing and are given instructions on the latest spelling of their name among other things of a serious nature. I say admirable -in -your- eyes because you evidently feel they deserve to win this war in Iraq and the GWOT. This must be because you have called for the defeat of the US on practically every post or at the least say the US deserves to lose.
You never did answer my question. Did you find the other eight people to join your party? You know, if you should go to some mosque I’m sure you will find your American Firsters there but then again they might just be saying they were to get into your party. It’s amazing the lengths some people will go to get on the anti-American bandwagon.
Golly, it must be hard to separate all the anti-American factions prevalent in this country but I take my hat off to you because you’ve perservered until you got most of them. Your problem is that the people on this site recognize your agenda. Well, of course they have since you’ve been blatant as hell about it. In other words (just a little hint) dear, your reputation as an intellectual is shot.
Barbee dearest:
Please list the factions to which you refer. I have no clue what you are talking about. Is Iraq Vets Against the War one of them?
http://www.ivaw.org/
I’ll help you decide.
http://www.vaiw.org/vet/index.php
How about this “faction?”
http://www.aipac.org/
Now this faction has been accused of spying on America, but most believe it’s just fine.
Since many of their agents helped drive America into the unwinnable
war based on the premise the Iraqis would love us once we got there
and co-operate with us overwhelmingly in allowing us to instruct them in how to create a pro-American “democracy,” I suppose you still consider their faction “pro-American” despite the results, in your abysmal ignorance.
Gotta know is right. Ignore Ken and let him rant in a vacumn.
Amen Barbara. Happy holidays, I’ve enjoyed your comments.
Ken, thanks for your clear and concise definition of you fromjust above:
“I have no clue”
We get it.
For Enforcement
“Sounds like a version of Crap.”
Thanks for synopsizing your comments writ large.
Wow, I must be coming in after a major flame war..
It seems to me that while the list is a good idea, the government broke its promise not to mix data and violated the law, too. It’s a perennial problem of incompetent bureaucracies, but we should expect more during war time. If they need a new law to do this correctly, well, the GOP had the house and senate since 2001 – 2006, they should have fixed these issues. (or did it just come down now that it was in violation?)
We need to do things right: pass the laws we need to combat terrorism and hold government agencies to be be competent and effective.
After some thought, I think maybe the GOP was lulled by the unity after 9/11 into thinking we would not need so many new laws passed by the both parties to “force” the Democrats to be on the record in support of these policies.