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		<title>By: Leaning Straight Up</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/3315/comment-page-1#comment-43378</link>
		<dc:creator>Leaning Straight Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 07:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Global Warming stuff...&lt;/strong&gt;

Here are a collection of Global Warming links, with a brief excerpt.&#160;
Before I do I want to note that this is becoming&#160;as contentious&#160;of an issue as any I have ever debated, and the politicking in&#160;it&#160;is sickening.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Global Warming stuff&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Here are a collection of Global Warming links, with a brief excerpt.&nbsp;<br />
Before I do I want to note that this is becoming&nbsp;as contentious&nbsp;of an issue as any I have ever debated, and the politicking in&nbsp;it&nbsp;is sickening.<br />
I am embroile&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 21:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually,  I called most the races correctly.  I, like many, did not know how many races were in play.  But election projections are not science.  And dgfx is just pretending he grasps the matter.

Pretty funny actually.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually,  I called most the races correctly.  I, like many, did not know how many races were in play.  But election projections are not science.  And dgfx is just pretending he grasps the matter.</p>
<p>Pretty funny actually.</p>
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		<title>By: The Macker</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Macker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 21:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dgfx,
You are  the &quot;target&quot; victim of agenda journalism. You have bought into the Popular Media&#039;s junk science, anti war reporting and wishful thinking about the Libby trial. You are its reason for existing.

Your cheap shot at AJ for his pre- election comments indicates that you can&#039;t differentiate substance from speculation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dgfx,<br />
You are  the &#8220;target&#8221; victim of agenda journalism. You have bought into the Popular Media&#8217;s junk science, anti war reporting and wishful thinking about the Libby trial. You are its reason for existing.</p>
<p>Your cheap shot at AJ for his pre- election comments indicates that you can&#8217;t differentiate substance from speculation.</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/3315/comment-page-1#comment-43292</link>
		<dc:creator>crosspatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 21:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One interesting thing that has not come out much in the mainstream is that the oceans have, for unknown reason, lost around 50% of the accumulated heat from the past 50 years in only the last 3 years.  Nobody knows why the oceans overall have lost such a huge amount of heat but it is suspected that it has something to do with a weather pattern that has reduced nighttime cloud cover over the equatorial pacific that has allowed much more heat to radiate into space than has been the case in recent decades.

Last year&#039;s Atlantic spring sea surface temperatures were also lower last year than the year before.

Overall folks, global warming is not a bad thing.  If we were to cool the globe by only 1 degree, we would see a great reduction in food production. This would be felt most in places such as the central plains of Canada and across the Russian steppes.  A frost early or late by only a couple of weeks can greatly impact crop yields.

I fear global cooling much more than global warming and so should poor countries who depend on food products that are grown in Northern lattitudes.  A failed corn harvest in South Dakota would cause tortilla prices in Equador to skyrocket because corn is a world market.

Keep your eyes peeled concerning predictions for solar cycle 25.  So far it looks like we might be setting into a solar pattern more likely to produce long term cooling than warming once cycle 24 is out of the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One interesting thing that has not come out much in the mainstream is that the oceans have, for unknown reason, lost around 50% of the accumulated heat from the past 50 years in only the last 3 years.  Nobody knows why the oceans overall have lost such a huge amount of heat but it is suspected that it has something to do with a weather pattern that has reduced nighttime cloud cover over the equatorial pacific that has allowed much more heat to radiate into space than has been the case in recent decades.</p>
<p>Last year&#8217;s Atlantic spring sea surface temperatures were also lower last year than the year before.</p>
<p>Overall folks, global warming is not a bad thing.  If we were to cool the globe by only 1 degree, we would see a great reduction in food production. This would be felt most in places such as the central plains of Canada and across the Russian steppes.  A frost early or late by only a couple of weeks can greatly impact crop yields.</p>
<p>I fear global cooling much more than global warming and so should poor countries who depend on food products that are grown in Northern lattitudes.  A failed corn harvest in South Dakota would cause tortilla prices in Equador to skyrocket because corn is a world market.</p>
<p>Keep your eyes peeled concerning predictions for solar cycle 25.  So far it looks like we might be setting into a solar pattern more likely to produce long term cooling than warming once cycle 24 is out of the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Neo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 20:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find the parallels of the process of drumming up support for the &quot;War on Climate Change&quot; is much like the scenarios spelled out for the &quot;Iraq War&quot;.

We have:
 1) incomplete infromation
 2) quick to judgment
 3) large cost
 4) long period of time
.. and then
 5) claims of misinformation after setbacks

I bet the politicians will all be dead before the get to step 5 with the &quot;War on Climate Change&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the parallels of the process of drumming up support for the &#8220;War on Climate Change&#8221; is much like the scenarios spelled out for the &#8220;Iraq War&#8221;.</p>
<p>We have:<br />
 1) incomplete infromation<br />
 2) quick to judgment<br />
 3) large cost<br />
 4) long period of time<br />
.. and then<br />
 5) claims of misinformation after setbacks</p>
<p>I bet the politicians will all be dead before the get to step 5 with the &#8220;War on Climate Change&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sensible Mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sensible Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 19:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Where&#039;s That Global Warming?...&lt;/strong&gt;

It&#039;s 9 below zero here in Chicago (30 below with the wind chill).  So where&#039;s that global warming Al Gore promised?  Oh, that&#039;s right.  They&#039;ll blame the cold on global warming, too.  ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Where&#8217;s That Global Warming?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>It&#8217;s 9 below zero here in Chicago (30 below with the wind chill).  So where&#8217;s that global warming Al Gore promised?  Oh, that&#8217;s right.  They&#8217;ll blame the cold on global warming, too.  &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The American Mind</title>
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		<dc:creator>The American Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 19:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;WSJ Offers Sanity on Global Warming Report...&lt;/strong&gt;

This Wall Street Journal editorial examines last week&#8217;s &#8220;breathless&#8221; global warming report. The IPCC has pulled back from their previous dire predictions:
More pertinent is the underlying scientific report. And according to people who...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>WSJ Offers Sanity on Global Warming Report&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>This Wall Street Journal editorial examines last week&#8217;s &#8220;breathless&#8221; global warming report. The IPCC has pulled back from their previous dire predictions:<br />
More pertinent is the underlying scientific report. And according to people who&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Retired Spook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Retired Spook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, this issue is really starting to heat up (pun intended).  The more light that&#039;s shined on it, the faster we&#039;ll return to some semblance of sanity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, this issue is really starting to heat up (pun intended).  The more light that&#8217;s shined on it, the faster we&#8217;ll return to some semblance of sanity.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol_Herman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol_Herman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As to blogs dedicated to partisans to fight it out?  We&#039;re not lacking partisans on both sides of the fence.  Nor are we lacking a judge who KNOWS &quot;his own kind&quot; will NOT reverse!

As a matter of fact, judges shreak like pigs when their &quot;discretionary powers&quot; are curtailed.  As they did, when the Legislature THREW THE BOOK AT THEM, and stopped &quot;discretionary&quot; in its tracks, WITH:  SENTENCING GUILDLINES.  Judges hate them.  But they &#039;must abide.&#039;

As to Libby&#039;s case?  Strictly INSIDE THE BELTWAY.  Lots of folks see this as a partisan effort, by the press, to take down Bush, the way the press got such a good shot at Nixon.  But since then?  More bloody noses, than success.  Reagan stood firm.  And, Clinton didn&#039;t suffer.

I&#039;d add that Michael Jackson didn&#039;t suffer, either.  While Sneddon, and the press corps couldn&#039;t budge the jury to convict.   After &quot;that&quot; verdict came out?  The press upped and left.  And, the jurors went home to normal lives.  (THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE PRESENTED PROVING SNEDDON&#039;S CASE!  While I rarely watch TV, when the verdict came in.  I flipped it on.  And, waited for the jurors to be interviewed.  I came away learning a lot of stuff about human nature.)  I hope Wells has picked a good jury, here.  But if not?  It&#039;s strictly &quot;INSIDE THE BELTWAY.&quot;  It will affect Libby&#039;s life.  On the other hand?  Look at Martha Stewart.  She just took her wallet off the table; kept the ankle bracelet.  And, put it behind her.

While the press?  You think they&#039;re influencial OUTSIDE the beltway?  I don&#039;t.

And, I don&#039;t think all that much about the crap that gets politically elected to carry &quot;gavels.&quot;  Weasels.  Legal lynchings, however, do eventually come back to haunt.   If there was a long view, we&#039;d get out of the partisan bullshit business.  Mainstream Americans aren&#039;t buying this garbage.  While jury trials?  A throw of the dice!  As if Vegas was the &quot;operator&quot; you wanted your laws to stand on.  Pffeh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to blogs dedicated to partisans to fight it out?  We&#8217;re not lacking partisans on both sides of the fence.  Nor are we lacking a judge who KNOWS &#8220;his own kind&#8221; will NOT reverse!</p>
<p>As a matter of fact, judges shreak like pigs when their &#8220;discretionary powers&#8221; are curtailed.  As they did, when the Legislature THREW THE BOOK AT THEM, and stopped &#8220;discretionary&#8221; in its tracks, WITH:  SENTENCING GUILDLINES.  Judges hate them.  But they &#8216;must abide.&#8217;</p>
<p>As to Libby&#8217;s case?  Strictly INSIDE THE BELTWAY.  Lots of folks see this as a partisan effort, by the press, to take down Bush, the way the press got such a good shot at Nixon.  But since then?  More bloody noses, than success.  Reagan stood firm.  And, Clinton didn&#8217;t suffer.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d add that Michael Jackson didn&#8217;t suffer, either.  While Sneddon, and the press corps couldn&#8217;t budge the jury to convict.   After &#8220;that&#8221; verdict came out?  The press upped and left.  And, the jurors went home to normal lives.  (THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE PRESENTED PROVING SNEDDON&#8217;S CASE!  While I rarely watch TV, when the verdict came in.  I flipped it on.  And, waited for the jurors to be interviewed.  I came away learning a lot of stuff about human nature.)  I hope Wells has picked a good jury, here.  But if not?  It&#8217;s strictly &#8220;INSIDE THE BELTWAY.&#8221;  It will affect Libby&#8217;s life.  On the other hand?  Look at Martha Stewart.  She just took her wallet off the table; kept the ankle bracelet.  And, put it behind her.</p>
<p>While the press?  You think they&#8217;re influencial OUTSIDE the beltway?  I don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>And, I don&#8217;t think all that much about the crap that gets politically elected to carry &#8220;gavels.&#8221;  Weasels.  Legal lynchings, however, do eventually come back to haunt.   If there was a long view, we&#8217;d get out of the partisan bullshit business.  Mainstream Americans aren&#8217;t buying this garbage.  While jury trials?  A throw of the dice!  As if Vegas was the &#8220;operator&#8221; you wanted your laws to stand on.  Pffeh.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol_Herman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol_Herman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, once, people believed what they heard from the pulpit.  When the priest said &quot;all their troubles were due to witches.&quot;

Less religion, today.  But the same &quot;needs&quot; among the ignorant, to think they&#039;re smart scientists.

Richard Feynman noticed this, when people would approach him, (thinking of themselves as geniuses, on par with his own mental talents.)  And, they&#039;d ask him, &quot;have you tried this number?&quot;

Oy.  All the obvious numbers WERE tried already!

But it didn&#039;t stop those who came by and wanted to see if they could interest him &quot;in some debate.&quot;

Given that even high schoolers get some &quot;earth science,&quot; I am puzzled at how people believe (because of their weather pattern) that, yes, &quot;those poor polar bears are sitting on top of melting ice.&quot;  But at the zoo?  Not uncommon for polar bears to SWIM.  And, where was &quot;that&quot; photographer standing?  To take &quot;that&quot; silly picture?  He wasn&#039;t at home, ya know.  And, he wasn&#039;t walking on water, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, once, people believed what they heard from the pulpit.  When the priest said &#8220;all their troubles were due to witches.&#8221;</p>
<p>Less religion, today.  But the same &#8220;needs&#8221; among the ignorant, to think they&#8217;re smart scientists.</p>
<p>Richard Feynman noticed this, when people would approach him, (thinking of themselves as geniuses, on par with his own mental talents.)  And, they&#8217;d ask him, &#8220;have you tried this number?&#8221;</p>
<p>Oy.  All the obvious numbers WERE tried already!</p>
<p>But it didn&#8217;t stop those who came by and wanted to see if they could interest him &#8220;in some debate.&#8221;</p>
<p>Given that even high schoolers get some &#8220;earth science,&#8221; I am puzzled at how people believe (because of their weather pattern) that, yes, &#8220;those poor polar bears are sitting on top of melting ice.&#8221;  But at the zoo?  Not uncommon for polar bears to SWIM.  And, where was &#8220;that&#8221; photographer standing?  To take &#8220;that&#8221; silly picture?  He wasn&#8217;t at home, ya know.  And, he wasn&#8217;t walking on water, either.</p>
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		<title>By: dgfx</title>
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		<dc:creator>dgfx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 16:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>S.S. Strata --

AJ (&quot;Permanently Down Alice&#039;s Rabbit Hole&quot;) Strata only sees failure in progress (GW science) and success in failure (Iraq).  Now, then will the accuracy of Strata&#039;s predictions on the last election find reprise in th outcome of the Libby trial?  (Not much posting on Libby here of late, eh wot?)</description>
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<p>AJ (&#8220;Permanently Down Alice&#8217;s Rabbit Hole&#8221;) Strata only sees failure in progress (GW science) and success in failure (Iraq).  Now, then will the accuracy of Strata&#8217;s predictions on the last election find reprise in th outcome of the Libby trial?  (Not much posting on Libby here of late, eh wot?)</p>
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		<title>By: MerlinOS2</title>
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		<dc:creator>MerlinOS2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 15:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was an excellent article over at American Thinker the other day that goes pretty much to the gut of the problem.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/02/a_necessary_apocalypse.html

also you can use http://tinyurl.com/2pfc2o</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was an excellent article over at American Thinker the other day that goes pretty much to the gut of the problem.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/02/a_necessary_apocalypse.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/02/a_necessary_apocalypse.html</a></p>
<p>also you can use <a href="http://tinyurl.com/2pfc2o" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/2pfc2o</a></p>
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