Feb 21 2007

Fly By 02/21/07

Published by at 8:16 am under All General Discussions,Fly By

Quick and to the point this morning. Libby will be acquitted in a very short deliberation.

OK, with that out of the way, let’s turn to John Edward’s continued spiral down the toilet. First he hires, fires, rehires and refires (for – against, for – against, perfect Kerry running mate) liberal bloggers who had no business trying to represent the mainstream of America they regularly insulted like high school gossips talk about their opponents. Now he is out to diss the Jewish base of the democrat party, calling Isreal the greatest threat against world peace. I guess a nuclear armed Islamo Fascist insane asylum which pretends the holocaust never happened and openly claims the end of Isreal is near is not enough of a threat for Edwards. One wonders how he plans to deal with African Americans and ‘Sister Soldjah’ them?

The southern section of Iraq is nearly as peaceful as the Kurdish areas of Iraq, so the UK is drawing down forces in the process of handover to the Iraqis. It will be measured and tested and assured a successful outcome. Of course the media is claiming this is a surrender and should be a model for a US pullout. Fine, when Iraq is as peaceful as the Shia southern regions under British control we should strongly consider pulling our forces out – but not before then. There, the is now debate over. Dems, deal with it.

On the same note, Dick Cheney torpedoes the Democrats by demanding the US withdrawl from Iraq “with honor” (i.e., because of success). Which means the dems want to leave Iraq with dishonor. Hard to argue that point. Something must be showing up in the polls. The Dems tried to surrender too early, too hard. He and Bush are showing amazing confidence in our troops – and that is a serious political price to pay for the Dems to oppose that confidence.

It seems our enemies in war will not be treated with civil legal protections after all (as if they ever have been in our entire history). A federal appeals court has decided those who attack our laws with violent force from outside our country cannot then run and try to receive protection from the very laws they wish to destroy. Duh! War is the absence of law requiring abnormal actions not normally legal.

And a leading Russian claims Berezovsky killed Litvinenko with Po-210. Wonder why he is saying that now? (Possibly more on this later).

Hope everyone has a great day!

80 responses so far

80 Responses to “Fly By 02/21/07”

  1. Soothsayer says:

    The amazing thing is if Saddam Hussein were in power he could wipe half his population off the face of the earth and people like you would not lift a finger to help those people.

    Terrye, your ignorance of the situattion in Iraq is so colossal it’s hard to describe, but, as Gen. William Odom, Ronald Reagan’s NSA chief pointed out last week, more Iraqi civilians are dying now than ever died under Saddam Hussein, and more are fleeing the country.

    And by the way, when Saddam Hussein was gassing Iranian civilians and Kurds, Donald Rumsfeld was flying to Baghdad to deliver money and weapons to him.

  2. MerlinOS2 says:

    Lurker

    Not only no but hell no.

    Live it love it learn it!

    Can you see the grin?

  3. MerlinOS2 says:

    Lurker

    I noticed twice in the thread Sooth called Terrye stupid.

    I think I will stand back for a moment and watch the blood flowing across the floor.

  4. MerlinOS2 says:

    Lurker

    Ron Paul is sorta like Ralph Nader but without the Corvair.

  5. MerlinOS2 says:

    Ron Paul is a name I have seen brought up is many places lately , almost with a bit of discomfort in the framing.
    Is this where the dissatisfied voters went?
    Some people really need to get a grip if this is so.
    Invest in Nothing, it’s cheap.

  6. lurker9876 says:

    I will do the same….stand back for a moment and watch the blood flowing across the floor.

    Oh! Good description about Ron Paul.

  7. Terrye says:

    soothsayer:

    You see this is my point , if we are dealing with Saddam people like you bitch, if we remove him you bitch…. no matter what you bitch.

    that is all you do… you bitch.

    and as for that old canar about Saddam and Rumsfeld. Well Chirac sold Saddam a nuclear reactor and called him a close personal friend and het the left has no problem with that. the truth is the choices were the Ayotallah and Saddam. The devil and the deep blue sea. But once it became apparent just what Saddam was the US and Britain begen to cut him off. Whereas the champions of the left, the Russian, the Chinese and the French did more business with Saddam, not less…they increased their association and support for him.

    And of course the Left said they wanted Saddam gone because he was a fascist, but in reality they supported him…just like you are now.

    Saddam had plans to exterminate the Kurds, If you had your way he would have remained in power and eventually he would have done just that. You would have done nothing other than preach and preen and call other people ignorant. You might have babbled about some long ago handshake with Rumsfeld, but if Rumsfel or anyone should dare remove your hero from power…watch out. You will start shrieking like a banshee.

    are you and lassoing the same person? I would hate to think there are two idiot trolls with nothing better to do that stink up AJ’s.

  8. Soothsayer says:

    Terrye:

    All I do is bitch.

    And all you do is say astoundingly stupid things.

    Personally, I’ll take bitching.

  9. Soothsayer says:

    Let me take some time off bitching and instruct you instead, Terrye:

    On February 24, 2001, Gen. Colin Powell said:

    The sanctions exist — not for the purpose of hurting the Iraqi people, but for the purpose of keeping in check Saddam Hussein’s ambitions toward developing weapons of mass destruction. . . . And frankly they have worked. He has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbors. So in effect, our policies have strengthened the security of the neighbors of Iraq…

    Sanctions in place; Saddam de-clawed; weapons inspections on an on-going basis; no-fly zones; no WMD’s’; Iraq’s neighbors (includinig the Kurds) safe . . . all right from the mouth of Colin Powell. Every bogus excuse you provide for Bush’s ill-advised and incompetent invasion of Iraq discredited a priori.

  10. lurker9876 says:

    Nope, you’re wrong. So you have no qualms spending MORE money enforcing the no-fly zones than we spent on invading Iraq to topple Saddam?

    Saddam had been bribing the majority of the members of the United Nations security council to get those sanctions lifted so that he can continue to build WMDs and spend most of his money from the Oil for Food program on his own palaces, a brand new Olympic Stadium, the biggest in the world, and 25,000 to the families of the suicide bombers against Jews and Americans. Barely a dollar from the Oil for Food program went to help the Iraqi children – comparison to how much money from the same program Saddam used on himself.

    Saddam also had strong ties with AQ and terrorists. Saddam and his two sons had plans to blow up America.

    You have no qualms with Saddam not following 12 years of UN resolutions?

    We did NOT, in reality, go to war because Saddam had those WMDs. We told Saddam to either show us his WMDs or inventory of WMDs or we will enforce UN 1441. Saddam failed to show us his WMDs or explain what happened to them.

    Here is one of MANY sources to prove you WRONG.

    Iraq’s Continuing Programs for Weapons of Mass Destruction from the declassified NIE report from CIA.

    Was the intelligence information WRONG? After many years of what the Democrats and Republicans been telling us how dangerous Saddam was, how can you determine the information was wrong? No one in the public withOUT security clearance knows. You don’t know either.

    This war against Iraq is well-advised and the right thing to do. It’s also an competent invasion of Iraq. It took 3 weeks and that war is OVER.

  11. lurker9876 says:

    Jveritas website of translated captured Iraqi documents.

    First article says: “Saddam Regime Document: Purchasing “Chemical Materials for Very Special Usage” (Translation)” Written between 2000 and 2003.

    These documents have been confirmed as authentic through sources.

    Iraqi Document: Saddam Regime Spying on the IAEA (Congressman Hoekstra is Right) (Translation)

    My October 5th E-Mail to the IAEA Regarding Saddam Re-Constructing His Nuclear Program

    And more documents translated at that site.

  12. lurker9876 says:

    Terrye has been spot on!

    All of these will probably be totally ignored by soothie and lasso. But hopefully, other readers will learn more about the truth.

    Along with Jveritas’s translated documents, read The Connection: How al Qaeda’s Collaboration with Saddam Hussein Has Endangered America (Hardcover) , by Stephen Hayes. He’s written several articles depicting strong connections between Saddam and AQ.

    Also, read Laurie Mylroie, who worked for Clinton, articles, starting with this:

    Biography

    SADDAM’S TERRORIST TIES

    WHAT INTELLIGENCE FAILURE IN IRAQ?

  13. Soothsayer says:

    you have no qualms spending MORE money enforcing the no-fly zones than we spent on invading Iraq to topple Saddam?

    On the crack cocaine again? You need to do some math homework:

    A study by two leading experts suggests that the costs of the Iraq war will be substantially higher than previously reckoned. In a paper presented to the Allied Social Sciences Association annual meeting in Boston MA., Harvard budget expert Linda Bilmes and Columbia University Professor and Nobel Laureate Joseph E. Stiglitz calculate that the war is likely to cost the United States a minimum of nearly one trillion dollars and potentially over $2 trillion.

    According to The History Guy, the estimated, unofficial cost of enforcing the no-fly zone to U.S. and British taxpayers was around $1 billion per year. That means we could have enforced no-fly for 1,000 years for the price of Georgie’s elective war.

    So what are YOUR numbers and where do you get them from?

  14. lurker9876 says:

    Read Eric Shawn’s book, “UN Exposed”.

    Hey, cracker, the money spent on enforcing the no-fly zone was far more than the money spent on the 3 week war against Iraq.

    Nope, I’m not on crack. Never been on crack.

    Bush vs. the Beltway: How the CIA and the State Department Tried to Stop the War on Terror

  15. lurker9876 says:

    Why it’s Different?

    Explains why southern Iraq is different from Baghdad.

    Gerard Baker explains why there is a great deal of difference between the situation in Southern Iraq and the situation that the US forces have faced in the rest of the country, particularly Baghdad. As he explains, British forces have been steadily declining in numbers since the initial phases of the war. The further reductions that Tony Blair announced are neither cause for celebration on the left nor a cause for gloom among war supporters

  16. lurker9876 says:

    Disingenuous Party subtitle: The Democratic antiwar problem.

    By Victor Davis Hansen. One of the best, unbiased writers about wars.

    The original fear of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, of course, played a role in their votes — but only a role. In the 23 writs that authorized force to remove Saddam, senators at the time also cited Iraq’s sanctuary and subsidies for terrorists. Then there were Saddam’s attempts to assassinate a former United States president; his repression of, and use of weapons of mass destruction against, his own people; and his serial violations of both United Nations and Gulf War agreements. If paranoia over weapons of mass destruction later proved just that, these other more numerous reasons to remove Saddam remain unassailable.

    WMDs played only a role as confirming 23 writs justifying WMDs along with numerous reasons for invading Iraq to topple Saddam.

    Have you read the 1998 Iraqi Liberation Act unanimously voted by Clinton’s Congress and signed by Congress?

  17. lurker9876 says:

    Also, have you read UN 1441 resolution? Before you spew your next rant on us. You will find that Saddam had to show us his WMDs or what happened to them or else we will go after him. He failed UN 1441 resolution.

  18. The Macker says:

    Terrye and Lurker,
    Wow!
    That was more firepower than these overeducated little snivellers warrant.

  19. lassoingtruth says:

    Terrye blathers:

    ” But once it became apparent just what Saddam was the US and Britain begen to cut him off.”

    You’re not even in Iraq History kindygarten, Terryeeeee.
    Saddam took power in a coup and purged, (that is had killed)
    scores of ex members of the government, even fellow
    Baathists whom he believed might not be trustworthy.
    All of which was well documented. US interventionists
    did not give a hoot.

  20. lassoingtruth says:

    Lurker

    Clinton was also a free-trader. So is Ron Paul. Duncan Hunter
    is a Republican protectionist candidate, but also a pro-war
    imperialist. I will not support pro-war imperialists but could
    support Paul even though I’m a Perot-Buchanan protectionist.
    Why? The Middle East is a powderkeg and if Rep or Dem
    imperialists continue an ardent pro-Likud interventionist
    policy, wholesale slaughter and of American troops could
    ensue more quickly than the economic debacle resulting
    from unrestrained free trade. The truth is, the military and
    economic medium-term prognosis for America both are
    tenuous.