Mar 04 2007
Solar System Warming?
Global warming on Neptune’s moon Triton as well as Jupiter and Pluto, and now Mars has some scratching their heads over what could possibly be in common with the warming of all these planets.
In the meantime, some have noticed an interesting relationship between solar activity and temperature proxies via ice cores going back thousands of years:
I still don’t know. Could there be something in common with all the planets in our solar system that might cause them all to warm at the same time?
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Throw an extra log on the fire and everything in the room gets a little warmer.
I find this far more plausible than human activity as the reason.
Maybe it has something to do with that big ball of fire in the sky.
Terrye, I think you may be on to something.
Are it could be all those people on those moons and mars consuming all those fossil fuels. Almost indisputeable proof of life there. Whew, thank goodness for gloal warming in other places, now we have that proof that we couldn’t get anywhere else.
It gets worse. I will post another article soon that overlays temperature reporting stations with an infrared heat map showing that most … as in nearly all … stations used to provide the temperature data used for “global warming” papers are located in heat islands caused by urbanization. Stations outside of these heat islands actually show a cooling trend recently.
Good post. And I would venture to say, that if scientists are not somehow stiffled from doing their jobs..we will be hearing about a lot MORE things that don’t fit with the current consensus model of global warming. And if it’s as important as people believe it is, then perhaps the best thing would NOT to be taking absolute positions on it that discourage debate, excludes new finds/evidence, etc.
One can point out that as temps have gone up, other things have changed or somehow been affected or otherwise have some correllation together. Does that mean one is causing the other? Or are they “both” responding to something else? These are the questions that “should” be part of any investigative process.
This is the argument some scientists are having with some of these theories, or doctrines, that have been put out there as gospel. The fact that 2 conditions exist and appear to have some correlation to each other does not therefore imply a cause and effect relationship between them somehow by default — and to the exclusion of all other possible external causes or reasons not tested. Even scientists who have theoretically proven some correllation hypothesis are aware of this.
It’s only as good until other variables or etc..untested or unseen or unknown shoot holes in your hypothesis and method. This is part of how our knowledge evolves about any subject. Some people used to believe and theorize that the world was flat, that one could sail off the end of it. Why? Because ships would leave, sail off towards the horizon and never come back, nor was any part of their ship ever found again.
If you “did” manage to make it back, they would simply say you didnt’ go far enough to reach the end which is the only reason you made it back alive — implying the danger of such expeditions and search for further knowledge on the subject. While holding on to such absolute theory might be self-sustaining, and somewhat malleable (at least until someone managed to sail completely around the world back to the point of origin), such absolute conclusions are also not remotely in the spirit of science OR learning in my opinion. Such “absolutes” most often occur/arise in the context of some political or cultural reasoning, cause, economic concern or debate, in which the objective is usually taking sides…not science or gaining knowledge. The fear only drives the point home: Yes, if you sail too far from home, (ie..see too much) you’ll fall off the edge of the earth, the earth will swallow you up and you’ll never return. You should not question what is before you because we have already determined the answer. It is before you only to accept it as truth (inconvenient as it is) and deal with it from there. Those that do question it…are trouble makers, deniers of science, etc. Yes, there is this great “world” concensus that we are all going to die if we don’t throttle down our economy (or, apparently as an alternative, buy energy offets). It will be, of course, “our” (US) fault should this happen —as it turns out, the world conensus on global warming is that it is Americans ..and things they do..that are the largest contributor to the cause of global warming.
Anytime you see scientists..arrogantly arguing for you to not look futher, and that doing so is only showing your own ignorance, that to test accepted conclusions was unforgiveable and puts you and the world at risk..etc…I think that should be your FIRST clue, that there is probably a LOT more information to be had by looking further into it.
Ah yes the Sun. Just be very careful when one offers to sell or purchase carbon offsets for…. Uranus….. ;-\
Alright, yes, there might be other places were global warming occurs, and yes the sun produces a substantial amount of heat, but seriously, were are temperatures rising the fastest? Earth. And what traps heat in the atmosphere? Greenhouse gasses. And what produces the largest amount of them? Human Activities. Get my point? Yes the sun might be producing the heat, but human activities trap it. Google global warming sometime, in addition to some of the pointless unrelated things, there are websites that have ways to help prevent global warming such as
1. http://biggreenmama.com/?q=node/41
2. http://www.ehow.com/how_2044984_prevent-global-warming.html
3. http://www.energyefficienthomearticles.com/Article/global-warming—-How-to-Prevent-Global-Warming-/3531
4. http://environment.about.com/od/globalwarming/tp/globalwarmtips.htm
5. http://www.google.com/educators/globalwarming_results.html
Alright, yes, there might be other places were global warming occurs, and yes the sun produces a substantial amount of heat, but seriously, were are temperatures rising the fastest? Earth. And what traps heat in the atmosphere? Greenhouse gasses. And what produces the largest amount of them? Human Activities. Get my point? Yes the sun might be producing the heat, but human activities trap it. Google global warming sometime, in addition to some of the pointless unrelated things, there are websites that have ways to help prevent global warming such as http://biggreenmama.com/?q=node/41 http://www.ehow.com/how_2044984_prevent-global-warming.html http://www.energyefficienthomearticles.com/Article/global-warming—-How-to-Prevent-Global-Warming-/3531 http://environment.about.com/od/globalwarming/tp/globalwarmtips.htm
http://www.google.com/educators/globalwarming_results.html