If we can’t blame Muslims for this tragedy, then who can we blame? Even before the bodies were cold, a number of conservative bloggers already had the answer: liberals….

My prayers and thoughts are for all those ravaged by this senseless slaughter.

AJStrata

You and I are on the same wavelength here, and I hope all the others trim their sails when we are still dealing with only initial reporting of the incident with all the likely crap data coming out of all that.

Everyone take a deep breath, since none of us are going to change what has already happened.

For anyone here to get their hackles up from little confirmed evidence is not a good outcome.

Let’s all wait until the facts shake out and then have a better basis for comment and arm chair quarterbacking.

Since the reports indicate that there was a single assailant and police are conducting a search for a second assailant as a matter of routine, one has to wonder how if there was a single gunman that he managed to get across campus to continue his mur…..

This is what you said:

“Good grief people, we don’t even know what happened here and you are already passing judgment. ”

And I was agreeing that you were technically correct; but I also wanted to point out, that I wasn’t “passing judgement” by saying it WAS a Muslim that did it; I was saying, based upon the other stuff, that it was a ‘Possibility”; it was also a possibility that it was not a Muslim, that it was a Jew, a Christian, a Hindu, or an atheist!

All/and/some were/are “possible”; my only point was, though, that I was NOT ruling out a Jihadi, based upon the previous 5+ years of SJS!

Does that make sense?

Correct about what? I was not talking about the shooter, I was talking about the people blaming the authorities rather than the shooter.

IU has a student population of 35,000, that is more than my county and there are a million ways one to and off of that campus. Some through the streets, lanes, businesses, highways, theatres, cultural centers, museums, shopping centers etc. Can not be done.

I don’t know if those numbers were correct, but people used them all the time, and I’m sure, it’s probably pretty much the same now, if not worse.

Anyway, the point is, I appreciate your anger over this, but there was NO WAY in Hades, that if a “domestic” shooting or any other kind ocurred on the PSU campus, it would take a Battalion of troops, to “shut down” the campus, at a minimum!

PSU, like VT, is originally an Aggie school; and it’s on hundreds of acres, with hundreds of buildings, and hundreds of routes of egress and ingress, and there is NO WAY any overworked, underpaid, overweight Campus Security, even with Local and Statie Police support, is shutting that campus down!

Without seeing any “facts”; I strongly suspect, that when the first shooting happened, early in the morning, the first responders thought it was a domestic incident, and that no one had a clue that the perpetrator was going across campus, to do more mayhem!

So in that regard, R05, your anger is misplaced as of yet, towards AJ and the Campus.

NOW; IF, it comes out, later, that the Campus Administration and the Police and Security, somehow KNEW, that the individual who did the shootings, somehow was loose, and looking for other victims, and they didn’t go out to all students/faculty, with an APB of some type, then that is cause for furor!

Terrye; fine, technically you are correct; but I still want someone to show me it is not a “Middle Easterner” or “convert” or someone with “SJS”.

I didn’t say it was, yet; but I said that based upon what I’ve seen over the past 5 years, possibility existed/does exist, that it COULD be that, until it is proven otherwise!

That, is just being prudent!

Please note: I did NOT say it WAS; I did not say it was “likely”, I did not say it was “probable”; I did not say let’s go out and execute all Muslims; I just said, that based upon the history of the past 5 years of SJS in this country, covered up because of PC in this country, and abetted by the DOJ and the Administration because of PC as well; that it is/was “possible”.

Now, we shall, hopefully know, in a day or two, whether there was, or was not, any relation.

If there was, I will say “I told you so…”

If there wasn’t; I own no one, and nothing an apology, because the Jihadis have EARNED my contempt, and suspicion and my right to suspect, over the past 5 years!

The school is enormous – the largest student body in VA I believe. There a many roads in, 100′s of buildings, tens of thousands of commuters and their cars. The student population is twice that of the host city of Blacksburg.

You cannot shut it down immediately. With that said they did use the emergency notification system which is a PA based system I think – which is going to get more people than email.

I live near Bloomington In and I went to IU, that campus is huge and there is no way they could “lock it down”. I don’t know what this school looks like, but my understanding is that they believed the original shooting was a domestic.

The president of the school made the point that there are 26,000 students on campus but only about 9,000 live there. That means people are constantly coming and going.

I remember back when some schools at a public announcement system for things like civil service announcements, but those days are gone. I am surprised that with all the cell phones and the internet that more people were not calling for help earlier.

Radical concept here, but what say we wait for more facts. As for who has gone through what, I doubt that the feelings of the people involved would be a lot different if the shooting took place in a mall or a public building or whatever.