May 05 2007

We Want An Iraq Civil War – Duh!

Published by at 7:24 am under All General Discussions,Diyala,Iraq

Linda Chavez made the obvious point many have missed in her article out today: The article is about whether or not Dems are anti-war or anti-troop. But the real question is will the Dems become anti-America? Here is the crux of all this – we want a small civil war in Iraq and we want one side to win and we need to make sure that side wins. Sound strange? Only to those in the surrendermedia and liberal far left echo chamnbers. Here is Chavez’s point:

The problem in Iraq is not the performance or the mission of American forces. The biggest problem is that Iraq has become a battleground in an Islamic jihad against not only America and the West, but non-Islamist Muslims. Al Qaeda targets the Shiite population, while Iran and its puppets in Iraq target the Sunnis. This is not civil war as commonly understood but a proxy war between two radical extremes in the Islamic world.

There is not fighting between the radical Islamo Fascists of the Shiia persuasion and the Sunni (al Qaeda) persuasion. The Islamo-Fascists are attacking the moderate Muslims trying to enrage them into sectarian violence. But so far it has not really worked. This is the war between Islamo Facists and ‘mainstream’ Muslims we have needed to take shape. The civil war is the extremists against the Arab/Muslim street.

For most of the Iraqi forces here the areas they patrol are familiar. They know the people, the area, and who does not belong. This is where they grew up.

“This is my home,” said one Iraqi policeman, who asked not to be identified due to concerns about his family’s safety. “We grew up here and know people here. (Terrorists) need to leave or they die here.”

This is a huge advantage for the U.S. military which has seen its share of conflict spring up in this area.

We cannot change Islam alone. We can ally with those Muslims who are willing to reject and throw off the Islamo Fascists. We see indications ALL OVER Iraq that the brutality of the Islamo Fascists is turning the tide in our direction. Anbar Province is now primarily aligned against al Qaeda and extremists. Diyala Province is following suit. In the broader sense Saudi Arabia is fighting back as is Jordan and Pakistan and Afghanistan. Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain and The UAE are solidly against the Islamo Fascists. We have wanted the Muslims to take up this fight and stand for peace and co-existence and they are.

And this is the ‘civil war’ the Dems claim we do not want? This is the quagmire? No wonder they are known only for the most spectacular loss in America’s history. They are so oblivious they cannot see success when it is sprouting up all around them. The Hagel’s and Kerry’s of the world are known for their failure in Vietnam – and now they want company. They want a new generation of admirers who can claim ‘we failed just like you did’. They are not going to get them. This generation is more like my father’s – the WW II generation. They are smart, savvy, fearless – and for them ‘failure’ is still not an option. Watching the boomers fade is turning out to be a lot worse than I thought (I am at the tale end of the boomer generation). There are lots of great boomers – don’t get me wrong. President Bush comes to mind. But the group has some serious issues as we can see in the likes of Hagel and Kerry. They are so desperate to salvage their reputations that they become dedicated to creating another Vietnam no matter what the cost. Thankfully, they will fail at that too.

90 responses so far

90 Responses to “We Want An Iraq Civil War – Duh!”

  1. MerlinOS2 says:

    What I would at this moment like to see, but subject to change as events develop

    Romney/Fred Thompson Pres/VP
    Rudy as AG
    Jeb Bush in charge of FEMA
    Bolton at the UN even if it takes another recess appointment.
    Tony Snow as front man.
    Don’t draw experienced politicians into cabinet or other positions to create open seats that make 2008 even harder for us.

  2. lurker9876 says:

    Boy, you have been on a roll last night!

    Romney/Fred Thompson Pres/VP
    Rudy as AG
    Jeb Bush in charge of FEMA
    Bolton at the UN even if it takes another recess appointment.
    Tony Snow as front man.
    Don’t draw experienced politicians into cabinet or other positions to create open seats that make 2008 even harder for us.

    I don’t mind a Fred Thompson Pres / Romney VP either!

    I would love to see Bolton back at UN. We need to work on gaining back a strong majority of both houses to get him confirmed without a recess appt.

    Drawing experienced politicians, especially carried over from a previous administration of opposite party was probably one of the biggest mistakes Bush made, especially with Tenet and CIA employees.

    There was nothing absolutely wrong with those 8 USA firings and nothing will happen except perhaps Gonzales leaving early. Not good – he will not be replaced by someone that we would like – there’s only a few more months to go – by fall – everyone would be focusing more on the ’08 election and he will be forgotten by then.

    Yeah, sooth-copperhead was really that desperate in finding another poll to drag it down by one point; yet, harped about the abysmal 28 percent. As long as sooth-copperhead remains a leftie, we are to expect cherry-picked, inaccurate and incomplete posts from him.

    Kudos to you for going after the data tells me without bias. It has been difficult to do it and the conservative blogs, including AJStrata’s, provide the best avenues for reporting unbiased data. Excluding Steve Sailor, Andrew Sullivan, and sometimes Christopher Hitchens. The New Republic is too liberal for my taste but sometimes does print some good articles so I don’t frequent it too often.

    Regarding Rove, typical fixation “frogmarch” of Rove that they are really desperate to get him removed from the Bush Adm. Bush is not going to be re-elected for ’08 so there’s nothing that Rove can do for Bush as far as campaigning. Rove continues to advise Bush for the ongoing events, complicated by the Democrats’ efforts. Rove may be better off to devote most of his time helping those towards winning the ’08 election.

    BTW, what has Mel Martinez done for RNC? And they’re asking for money from us repeatedly. My mom told them that she wouldn’t contribute unless they change their spending habits and dealt with the illegal immigration issues. (And show us the proof of change) Perhaps I should do the same?

    You say that the Americans are tired of these fishing expeditions. I say that the Americans are tired of Congress’ runaway spending habits, approving earmark and pork programs. The Democrats showed their true colors by voting on the pork portion of the defense bill. All they want to do is take out more money out of our own pockets.

    Either vote for the socialistic Democrats or vote for fiscally conservative Republicans after they promise to rein in the earmarks and pork, spending habits, do some serious reforms in many areas, such as social security, taxes, and so forth.

    There have been several articles of late showing a shift towards the left side but I don’t believe it, except for New England. There’s a claim that New Hampshire is shifting to the left. Well, Canada can have New Hampshire!

  3. lurker9876 says:

    Boy, you have been on a roll last night!

    Romney/Fred Thompson Pres/VP
    Rudy as AG
    Jeb Bush in charge of FEMA
    Bolton at the UN even if it takes another recess appointment.
    Tony Snow as front man.
    Don’t draw experienced politicians into cabinet or other positions to create open seats that make 2008 even harder for us.

    I don’t mind a Fred Thompson Pres / Romney VP either!

    I would love to see Bolton back at UN. We need to work on gaining back a strong majority of both houses to get him confirmed without a recess appt.

    Drawing experienced politicians, especially carried over from a previous administration of opposite party was probably one of the biggest mistakes Bush made, especially with Tenet and CIA employees.

    There was nothing absolutely wrong with those 8 USA firings and nothing will happen except perhaps Gonzales leaving early. Not good – he will not be replaced by someone that we would like – there’s only a few more months to go – by fall – everyone would be focusing more on the ’08 election and he will be forgotten by then.

    Yeah, sooth-copperhead was really that desperate in finding another poll to drag it down by one point; yet, harped about the abysmal 28 percent. As long as sooth-copperhead remains a leftie, we are to expect cherry-picked, inaccurate and incomplete posts from him.

    Kudos to you for going after the data tells me without bias. It has been difficult to do it and the conservative blogs, including AJStrata’s, provide the best avenues for reporting unbiased data. Excluding Steve Sailor, Andrew Sullivan, and sometimes Christopher Hitchens. The New Republic is too liberal for my taste but sometimes does print some good articles so I don’t frequent it too often.

    Regarding Rove, typical fixation “frogmarch” of Rove that they are really desperate to get him removed from the Bush Adm. Bush is not going to be re-elected for ’08 so there’s nothing that Rove can do for Bush as far as campaigning. Rove continues to advise Bush for the ongoing events, complicated by the Democrats’ efforts. Rove may be better off to devote most of his time helping those towards winning the ’08 election.

    BTW, what has Mel Martinez done for RNC? And they’re asking for money from us repeatedly. My mom told them that she wouldn’t contribute unless they change their spending habits and dealt with the illegal immigration issues. (And show us the proof of change) Perhaps I should do the same?

    You say that the Americans are tired of these fishing expeditions. I say that the Americans are tired of Congress’ runaway spending habits, approving earmark and pork programs. The Democrats showed their true colors by voting on the pork portion of the defense bill. All they want to do is take out more money out of our own pockets.

    Either vote for the socialistic Democrats or vote for fiscally conservative Republicans after they promise to rein in the earmarks and pork, spending habits, do some serious reforms in many areas, such as social security, taxes, and so forth.

    There have been several articles of late showing a shift towards the left side but I don’t believe it, except for New England. There’s a claim that New Hampshire is shifting to the left. Well, Canada can have New Hampshire!

  4. lurker9876 says:

    Boy, you have been on a roll last night!

    Romney/Fred Thompson Pres/VP
    Rudy as AG
    Jeb Bush in charge of FEMA
    Bolton at the UN even if it takes another recess appointment.
    Tony Snow as front man.
    Don’t draw experienced politicians into cabinet or other positions to create open seats that make 2008 even harder for us.

    I don’t mind a Fred Thompson Pres / Romney VP either!

    I would love to see Bolton back at UN. We need to work on gaining back a strong majority of both houses to get him confirmed without a recess appt.

    Drawing experienced politicians, especially carried over from a previous administration of opposite party was probably one of the biggest mistakes Bush made, especially with Tenet and CIA employees.

  5. lurker9876 says:

    There was nothing absolutely wrong with those 8 USA firings and nothing will happen except perhaps Gonzales leaving early. Not good – he will not be replaced by someone that we would like – there’s only a few more months to go – by fall – everyone would be focusing more on the ’08 election and he will be forgotten by then.

    Yeah, sooth-copperhead was really that desperate in finding another poll to drag it down by one point; yet, harped about the abysmal 28 percent. As long as sooth-copperhead remains a leftie, we are to expect cherry-picked, inaccurate and incomplete posts from him.

    Kudos to you for going after the data tells me without bias. It has been difficult to do it and the conservative blogs, including AJStrata’s, provide the best avenues for reporting unbiased data. Excluding Steve Sailor, Andrew Sullivan, and sometimes Christopher Hitchens. The New Republic is too liberal for my taste but sometimes does print some good articles so I don’t frequent it too often.

  6. lurker9876 says:

    Regarding Rove, typical fixation “frogmarch” of Rove that they are really desperate to get him removed from the Bush Adm. Bush is not going to be re-elected for ’08 so there’s nothing that Rove can do for Bush as far as campaigning. Rove continues to advise Bush for the ongoing events, complicated by the Democrats’ efforts. Rove may be better off to devote most of his time helping those towards winning the ’08 election.

    BTW, what has Mel Martinez done for RNC? And they’re asking for money from us repeatedly. My mom told them that she wouldn’t contribute unless they change their spending habits and dealt with the illegal immigration issues. (And show us the proof of change) Perhaps I should do the same?

    You say that the Americans are tired of these fishing expeditions. I say that the Americans are tired of Congress’ runaway spending habits, approving earmark and pork programs. The Democrats showed their true colors by voting on the pork portion of the defense bill. All they want to do is take out more money out of our own pockets.

  7. lurker9876 says:

    Either vote for the socialistic Democrats or vote for fiscally conservative Republicans after they promise to rein in the earmarks and pork, spending habits, do some serious reforms in many areas, such as social security, taxes, and so forth.

    There have been several articles of late showing a shift towards the left side but I don’t believe it, except for New England. There’s a claim that New Hampshire is shifting to the left. Well, Canada can have New Hampshire!

  8. lurker9876 says:

    Either vote for the socialistic Democrats or vote for fiscally conservative Republicans after they promise to rein in the earmarks and pork, spending habits, do some serious reforms in many areas, such as social security, taxes, and so forth.

  9. lurker9876 says:

    There have been several articles of late showing a shift towards the left side but I don’t believe it, except for New England. There’s a claim that New Hampshire is shifting to the left. Well, Canada can have New Hampshire!

  10. lurker9876 says:

    Finally, Captain’s Quarters has this to say about Newswe(a)k’s polling data

    Yes, this would be a devastating poll, if one could rely on it. It contradicts nearly every other poll, which has consistently shown Giuliani beating Obama, Clinton, and Edwards. How could Newsweek get the results they have published?

    Well, for one thing, it helps when you poll 50% more Democrats than Republicans. If one reads the actual poll results all the way to the end, the penultimate question shows that the sample has 24% Republicans to 36% Democrats. Compare that to the information given by Newsweek’s NBC partners in February, which showed that party affiliation had shifted from a difference of less than a percentage point to a gap of 3.9 points — 34.3% to 30.4%, with 33.9% independents.

    Does it really surprise Newsweek that a sample where half again as many Democrats as Republicans were polled tend to prefer Democrats for President? Do they find it all that surprising that George Bush isn’t terribly popular when surveys oversample Democrats? They knew that the poll had to have some problems; the margins of error for the poll were 7% for the Democrats and 8% for the Republicans, quite high for these kinds of polls.

    Newsweek apparently doesn’t employ people like editors and fact checkers before rushing their analyses to print. Thankfully, the blogosphere can take the time and effort to have these layers of correction so that we can provide the best possible information to our readership.