May 05 2007
We Want An Iraq Civil War – Duh!
Linda Chavez made the obvious point many have missed in her article out today: The article is about whether or not Dems are anti-war or anti-troop. But the real question is will the Dems become anti-America? Here is the crux of all this – we want a small civil war in Iraq and we want one side to win and we need to make sure that side wins. Sound strange? Only to those in the surrendermedia and liberal far left echo chamnbers. Here is Chavez’s point:
The problem in Iraq is not the performance or the mission of American forces. The biggest problem is that Iraq has become a battleground in an Islamic jihad against not only America and the West, but non-Islamist Muslims. Al Qaeda targets the Shiite population, while Iran and its puppets in Iraq target the Sunnis. This is not civil war as commonly understood but a proxy war between two radical extremes in the Islamic world.
There is not fighting between the radical Islamo Fascists of the Shiia persuasion and the Sunni (al Qaeda) persuasion. The Islamo-Fascists are attacking the moderate Muslims trying to enrage them into sectarian violence. But so far it has not really worked. This is the war between Islamo Facists and ‘mainstream’ Muslims we have needed to take shape. The civil war is the extremists against the Arab/Muslim street.
For most of the Iraqi forces here the areas they patrol are familiar. They know the people, the area, and who does not belong. This is where they grew up.
“This is my home,†said one Iraqi policeman, who asked not to be identified due to concerns about his family’s safety. “We grew up here and know people here. (Terrorists) need to leave or they die here.â€
This is a huge advantage for the U.S. military which has seen its share of conflict spring up in this area.
We cannot change Islam alone. We can ally with those Muslims who are willing to reject and throw off the Islamo Fascists. We see indications ALL OVER Iraq that the brutality of the Islamo Fascists is turning the tide in our direction. Anbar Province is now primarily aligned against al Qaeda and extremists. Diyala Province is following suit. In the broader sense Saudi Arabia is fighting back as is Jordan and Pakistan and Afghanistan. Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain and The UAE are solidly against the Islamo Fascists. We have wanted the Muslims to take up this fight and stand for peace and co-existence and they are.
And this is the ‘civil war’ the Dems claim we do not want? This is the quagmire? No wonder they are known only for the most spectacular loss in America’s history. They are so oblivious they cannot see success when it is sprouting up all around them. The Hagel’s and Kerry’s of the world are known for their failure in Vietnam – and now they want company. They want a new generation of admirers who can claim ‘we failed just like you did’. They are not going to get them. This generation is more like my father’s – the WW II generation. They are smart, savvy, fearless – and for them ‘failure’ is still not an option. Watching the boomers fade is turning out to be a lot worse than I thought (I am at the tale end of the boomer generation). There are lots of great boomers – don’t get me wrong. President Bush comes to mind. But the group has some serious issues as we can see in the likes of Hagel and Kerry. They are so desperate to salvage their reputations that they become dedicated to creating another Vietnam no matter what the cost. Thankfully, they will fail at that too.
America! Why have you abandoned us?
The soldiers know that Congress has cut off spending for our troops. Not Bush. They’re blaming the Democrats for cutting off spending of our troops.
From the above link:
I wholeheartedly support the US troops and want real victory from this war.
Well lurker, I agree but there are people out there who think you support the troops by giving aid and comfort.
And if we leave Iraq, why bother to stay in Afghanistan? What is the point?
that should be aid and comfort to the enemy.
Terrye, good point.
Then we need to pull all of our US troops our of Germany, Japan, and Korea as well!
You’ve just described the Democrats!
I show my support by writing emails, signing petitions, contributions, pray for the US troops, and pray for real victory.
P.S. Thirteen Tales is good so far. About halfway through.
I was recently at a live concert when the well known performer asked that all veterans in the audience stand up. He then stated that he wanted to thank them for their service to the country that gave him the right to stand on that stage and entertain the people. That without their sacrifices, he may not be able to do what he was doing. He recited a poem that he had written that stated his feelings very well. It made me proud to be a veteran. I wish we had more people that felt as he did and that got the feeling I had at that moment. I feel that volunteering to serve in the military is a personal decision for every American and there is no disgrace in deciding that it is not the thing for you. At the same time, I feel that it is a patriotic thing to do and that it is a necessary thing. Whether Americans serve or not, they should support the ones that do volunteer….
Terrye, good point.
Then we need to pull all of our US troops our of Germany, Japan, and Korea as well!
You’ve just described the Democrats!
I show my support by writing emails, signing petitions, contributions, pray for the US troops, and pray for real victory.
Memorial Day is coming up in a few short weeks! I am hoping for a huge turnout by the Gathering of Eagles.
Enforcement, what a wonderful thing your entertainer did. Emphasizing “Freedom of Speech”. Bet there was a lot of tears in the crowd. It’s no wonder why Bob Hope entertained the troops in the past and we need to see more entertainers like yours today.
P.S. Thirteen Tales is good so far. About halfway through.
FE, we love you and all those who have protected our beloved America! And that includes all the families as well as all who serve at “desk” jobs or in their own little way.
And AJ, great post! Hits it on the head!
AJ, it’s reassuring to know that such a dynamic is at work. It appears that the victory train may be about to depart the station. One certainly has to wonder whether there will come a time when the Left side of the aisle has an epiphany with regard to their destructive behavior and rhetoric and finally jumps on board or whether they are left on the platform with their collective heads up their a$$ wondering what the hell happened.
I listened to Thirteen Tales on CD, the British readers made it more entertaining. I also suggest Innocent Traitor. It is an historical novel about the 9 day Queen, Lady Jane Grey. Man, those Brits could be rough on their royalty.
AJ,
Good post.
“But the real question is will the Dems become anti-America?” – Haven’t their positions and tactics already made them ,de facto, anti-America?
The current relics in the Dem Party will be replaced before long and maybe by some uninfected leaders with a vision.
The key point here, is that this is not a simplistic thing. You are trying to build a government structure, military and police in parallel in a hostile environment. As General P says in in press conference we can only at this point calm things down to provide the conditions where the Iraqi’s have to step up to the plate, which is an issue beyond our control. I personally don’t have a lot of heartburn with the two month break for them, since our full surge won’t be in place before then, and if they just kept trucking, they would still be trying to work issues in a less settled environment. The breather may give them a chance to come back with observations of a changed situation and more incentive to go for the brass ring. If the tribes continue to gather support for tossing the trash out and a review of Army and police actions to weed out the bad guys embedded in those forces has a chance to develop then each of those puts more pressure on the government itself to get off the dime. As AJ has posted in the last string of posts, the situation on the ground could be turning, it’s the politics side that is the sticking point. For anyone to think that this size and complexity situation could be resolved in a New York minute would have to be considered at least a bit wishful thinking. This is worse than trying to get the fundamental Christian right and the nutroots to come to a common ground for the overall benefit of both. Not an easy task. It’s hard, but it’s doable, the alternative is not pretty. I see this as having to be a very long term thing. For example the Iraq Air Force consists of a few hand me down choppers and some “Piper Cub” observation planes and some transports. They will need at least a few jet fighters down the line or a couple of squadrons to stand on their own. The army is now just getting armored vehicles and some hand me down tanks and are yet to get artillery support. They are just starting to train logistic support for the army. If the current trend continues, as more army is trained they can control more areas and we in separate or joint operations can spend more of our focus on taking out the bad guys. AQI knows this and it does not seem to be a pretty picture for them. The oil fields need a lot of fixing to bring up the output for the country to finance itself. Lots of issues about international debt that Saddam stuck the country with have to be resolved. You can’t fix the power distribution, sewage and water systems overnight, especially if someone wants to blow things up about as fast as you can fix them. Each month we work this problem it gets better for the locals and their support will grow if they can see the light at the end of the tunnel. I just wish this change had occurred a couple of years ago. In my opinion we switched way to early from the aggressive blow up and break thing mode to the police and win hearts and mind mode. The ROE got to tightened up to early and we paid a price for it. All we can do is move forward and not take the Dem outlook of “I can’t do it, it’s too hard”.
You guys are now officially clinically delusional:
1. The civil war now raging was predicted by every reputable Mideast scholar before the invasion – which is precisely why Bush 41 did not take Baghdad. His idiot son was less astute;
2. Bush’s polling numbers are now so abyssmal they are dragging down the entire GOP – acording to Newsweek, the leading Dem contenders ALL beat every GOP candidate in head to head numbers. Thank you kindly, Dubbya;
3. The US now has 737 military bases in 130 countries, and our defense budget is the equal of every other country combined. Osama’s strategtt of bleeding America fiscally is working perfectly, thanks to Bush’s insane military spending and tax cuts;
4. The US Attorney scandal is growing each and every day, and Karl Rove will most certainly be a casualty before it’s over;
5. Rave on, dudes.
US Treasury Sets New 1-Day Tax Receipt Record Of $85.8 Billion
Yeah tax cuts are really screwing up the economy.
SS:
What are the Democrats going to run on once President Bush’s term is up? They have only stood for one thing his whole Presidency, and that is they hate him. It’s funny that someone the Democrats feel is so inferior to them, so stupid, so simple, so American, can drive you to such heights of derangement. You do realize that when you allow someone to anger you, they control you. Everything they do causes you to find something evil in their motives. Every good deed is looked at as just window dressing for some nefarious plan. It’s amazing to watch the reactions of the deranged left when the President holds a child who just lost a parent and cries with them. The hate and venom they spit, makes me realize how much of their soul they have given up for petty politics just to rage against the machine, while being used by the machine.
Look at your talking points you just mentioned and tell me what they are really about. You and the deranged left need to get out of counseling, off the meds, and get back in touch with reality. The counter culture did nothing but take some fine minds and twist them into hate addicts.
Sooth,
Calling Bush an idiot and the tax cuts fiscally bleeding is simply intellectually dishonest.
Bush 41 ended the war early because it would have exceeded the UN mandate.
Conservatives can understand an MSM victim calling others delusional.
Soothie-copperhead, the usual naysayer.
According to Captain’s Quarters, the Democrats have decided to kick the can.
Democrats To Kick The Can
Don Surber: What Bush did not — and did — say
Heh, Scaulen, Captain’s Quarters has a post up about The Do-Nothing 110th Congress
They’ve done absolutely NOTHING!
Scaulen, wasn’t Truman very low in the polls? Yet, history is treating him kindly these days.
Average polling numbers shows Bush at the average of 35%.
It doesn’t matter. Bush is still doing the right thing and history will treat him kindly in twenty years down.
Don’t forget Bush helping Byrd…
A VISION OF THINGS TO COME – do read this.