Jun 02 2007
O’Reilly Goes Too Far
Bill O’Reilly has become another example of the far right, Immigration Hypochondriacs running into the sewer because they have lost their minds and the argument on the comprehensive immigration bill supported by large majorities since it includes both border protection and a guest worker program. Jerks like O’Reilly cannot tolerate the guest worker program with fines and back taxes due as punishment for working here without documentation. And this intolerance is seen in their immature and hateful nativist comments, like what just spewed out of O’Reilly’s big mouth:
Bill O’Reilly asserted that the proposed immigration reform bill is supported by “people who hate America, and they hate it because it’s run primarily by white, Christian men. Let me repeat that. America is run primarily by white, Christian men, and there is a segment of our population who hates that, despises that power structure.” He continued: “So they, under the guise of being compassionate, want to flood the country with foreign nationals, unlimited, unlimited, to change the complexion — pardon the pun — of America. Now, that’s hatred, too.”
As a white, now non-practicing Christian man I can only say this: Forget You O’Reilly. Clearly you are insecure about people of color being too close to you. Similarly to how the Nazis hated the Jews for poisoning the German culture, too many on the right spew this garbage about polluting our country out of fear of having to deal with people of other cultures. And they call us Un-American. What an ugly and pathetic comment.
Addendum: OK, I cleaned up the text and the HTML – since I was trying to spill this post out fast so my family could go to downtown Herndon and see the fireworks and left it pretty mangled. And after reading O’Reilly’s full text I find less offensive – but only barely. The fact is O’Reilly was trying to include the far left as supporters of the current Bill – which they are not. La Raza and the other far left groups do not like this bill because it eliminates the citizenship option for temporary workers and requires the background checks to eliminate the criminal element. So instead of being 100% irritated with O’Reilly I am 98% irritated because the guy simply used a lie to try and scare people from supporting the Bill. In a classic race baiting move reminiscent of the Dubai Ports fiasco O’Reilly must have been trying to reach our collective inner Klansman. Thankfully not very many people would fall for such a mob-mobilizing stunt. Sadly enough do. I wonder how many opponent of the guest worker program (which has limits on the numbers allowed, requires maximum stays, has that tamper-proof IDz with an expiration date to get jobs, and no option to apply for citizenship) will take O’Reilly to task for this?
biglsufan, so O’Reilly spoke the truth. Yeah, there are a number of people out in the real world of politics that have their noses out of joint because the country is basically run by white guys. You should know, Ray Nagin is the epitome of the resentful minority. Your own state (if in fact you do live in Louisiana) is a snake pit of corruption, payoffs and pandering. How much more money is Blanco and Nagin going to gouge the American taxpayer for because New Orleans has a “let’s party” attitude that did not serve them well when Katrina hit?
I for one can’t wait for this bill to pass. I am pretty confident more than last week that it will.
America is getting exhausted by this discussion and want it done with. America for good or for bad gets exhausted wuite easily when it has to deal with politics with a extended period of time. It is in our nature. That is one reason why the dynamics in the end work for something comprehensive because politicians know that issues like this get revisited only every 30 years or so. Immigration issues have never been fun. This is one hasnt that is for sure.
As for the vileness. Yep a lot is out there. That is for sure.
THe immigration bill in the end will not “fundamentally” change America. THe Republic will not fall. The glory about the United States and our system is that adapts well to changes without losing its soul.
And New Orleans will become the same city it was before Katrina.
NOT.
Retire 05
Yes I am from Louisiana.
I could on forever about Nagin. There was a reason why Republicans came back to him in the election to get him back into office. That was to stop the Landriu machine and the return of the machine that rined New Orleans. You can say alot about Blanco and Nagin but being corrupt is not one of them. The reason the mayor is so weak is that he refused to play the rules by the ole black machine. White Republicans and other at least get listened too by Nagin.
As to the corruption payoffs and everything else this is not the Louisiana era of Edwin Edwards. I know. I was part of the people that fought that era and helped build the party here from when we could fit in a phone booth to at least something that is viable today.
One final note on Louisiana. I knew two days after that hurricane that the blame games was going to take the focus off what was important. Louisian became a tool of both the left and right in this Country. Want blame? Sure State Govt and New Orleans is to blame? THe Corp is to blame. Also a General neglect of a problem of Coastal Erosion that we have been screaming about for decades down here that is largely manmade but cannot be corrected without direct intervention of the Feds because to solve it means we have to do major diversions of the US’s major Highway. That is the Missisiippi River. YOu saw New Orleans but vast other areas of Louisiana that were just as affected and yet we did well getting back on our feet were never shown. Chalamette, Slidell, and the various areas affected by Rita are not known to the people. So let me say the “lets party ” attitude was shared by not just by New Orleans but by the rest of the nation for decades.
It is like the immigration . Everyone wants to point fingers but realize there are 4 fingers pointing back
The Country is not so much run by white Christian white guys. I guess if Bill is talking about elected officals he might be right. But as t the large realm of business, poltics, etc, it is far from a white Christian male domain anymore.
I would agree the New Orlean that was will never return. It is sad in many ways. There was the bad we saw but there was a lot of good there that never got the publicity. Something unique was there and now I ma afraid will never come back.
Now it will come back in some form. But it is appearing to me that it will no longer have a place for the middle class in it that made a lot of its soul.
you’re right, the comprehensive immigration will not fundamentally change America because it and the proverbial snowball in hell have about the same chance of surviving.
Wanting the illegal alien situation resolved doesn’t mean that the people want to give away the store and keys.
You should come down to some of the LSU football games and visit the grandkids lol. It will be quite a year. With our schedule we could go all the way
I don’t see that the keys will be given to them. There is a reason why the far left immigration groups are not pleased. You should go over and see what they are saying. I go and comment on their sites too and tell them to get with reality.
In the end the 12 million are here. The vast majority are not going anyplace. There are too many economical, social, and political factors to prevent that from happening. I do expect under this bill that a nice bit of that number will be deported or if they do not sign up will self deport. The employment Verification system that is key to this whole thing working will make it tough for them to survive.
So far I see little to get worked up over this bill. It seems the best alternative and right now for those that want more hardline mesures time is not on their side.
As to the chances it has of passing? I think very well. I had worries in the House but it appears that things might be moving over there. The key is going to be to keep the enforcement measures in. If the House GOP doesnt fight for that then the GOP and the enforcement side will be in a much weaker position when it gets to conference.
I live near there, go there regularly.
biglsufan, after Katrina, I felt that my spouse and I were in a position to do something to help. So I reduced my business to a snail’s crawl and left for NO. Needless to say, I did not stay long. The attitude of those who were affected by Katrina did not restore my faith in my fellow Americans. I left NO and went to Mississippi where I stay for over a year. Going from a 2,600 sq. ft home to live in a 36′ foot travel trailer is quite an adjustment.
Let’s face it, biglsufan, the problems that come from Katrina rested squarely on the pols in Louisiana. I read an article the other day where the people who have been living in travel trailers, provided courtesy of the taxpayer, are now wanting the “government” to put them up in houses and apartments because the travel trailers are making them sick. That is just sooooo much bull. I lived in a travel trailer, that I paid for, and it did not make me sick. What made me sick was seeing women using food stamps they pulled out of Louis Vitton handbags that were paid for with tax payer dollars. What makes me sick today are the houses with the blue tarps still on them and Hummers sitting in the drive ways. What makes me sick are the people who live in flood planes and don’t buy flood insurance and they expect the taxpayer to pick up the tab.
New Orleans is a failed city. Years of corruption, Democratic rule and man made poverty has failed it.
I grew up on the Mississippi. It floods. And when the farm lands and the houses on them in my state flooded, as they do, the farmers picked themselves up by the boot straps and got on with their lives.
Did you know that all of Port Arthur, Texas was under water from Rita? Did you know that Rita was only 3 mph slower than Katrina? Do you hear the people of Texas screaming how they need more and more and more?
From where I sit, not much has changed in Louisiana from the days of Huey Long.
biglsufan, I suggest you read the bill. it’s been discussed on this blog for days now, look at every post about illegals and you’ll see over a hundred comments and this is the first thread that your name has appeared in and from your statements, you are very uninformed as to what’s in it. As far as your recommendation to go to the lib sites, I don’t read lefties and don’t care what their opinions are.
You said it’s the best alternative. So you are of the opinion that immediate amnesty is a good thing?, so you are of the opinion that leaving all the illegals in this country,criminals and all is a good thing?
Under this bill, NONE of them will be deported, see page 268 lines 8-42 they have immediate probationary status and can not even be detained, much less deported. In fact deportation is specifically prohibited in the bill.
You really should read it. There is only one provision in the whole 326 pages of it that will be enforced and that is section 601 on the first page that gives all illegals immediate amnesty, no other provision will ever be enforced. It’s a lib bill and doesn’t have any chance if enough people read it. You should do a little reading of the bill, get informed, unless you’re a lib leftie, you’ll change your mind.
Retire05, you know Louisiana very well. I live in Louisiana and the politics are crooked, Blanco is a fruitcake, Nagin is worse than a fruitcake. Absolutely, totally clueless and useless. The whole Katrina fiasco in NO rests squarely on their shoulders.
The blue roofs are still very evident. I went by NO 6 months after the storm and nothing had changed, everyone was still there holding their hands out. I went to Waveland, Ms. People were still living in tents, now we’re talking 10 month after the storm… I just had to return there the following year on my annual sojourn to Florida in Feb and believe it or not. Still people living in tents, 18 months later. Waiting for the handout. Nagin got re-elected because a bunch of liberals that thought they would get bigger handouts with him voted for him. I think you’re gonna see a Repub gov. later this year. Jindal is a shoo in.
The problem is this as to Katrina.
First the storm speed is not so much the issue. Katrina was in many ways the perfect storm. It also didnt have Mr Go(Part of the IntraCoastal Canal) acting as one huge funnel that made it far worse. The Corp still denies that it happened that way , but I know people that survived the storm that saw it with their own eyes.
What killed New Orleans was the floodwall breaking that night after we thought we dodged the bullet. That flooded pretty much the middle Class out of New Orleans. What caused that Floodwall to break was laid in motion 30 years ago.
Yes failed policies in NEw Orleans did contribute to what we saw on TV. However that was not the whole story by any means to the whole population. No one crys for Chalamette but now the nation thinks all of Louisiana is the thugs they saw on tv? Does anyone mention Lakeview? Even the coverage of the ninth ward was simplistic because many of us lnow that the ninth ward is not all alike.
As to Port Arthur, it had a surge but it did not have the pure destructive power of the wave that hit parts of Louisiana and areas of Mississippi abrounf Biloxi and Bay St Louis. Alos the real bummer is that we lost land after it . Which will continue to happen till we start diversion projects of the River to build up the marsh again
I spent a year in New Orleans one week. Had my car broken into, two days later it was stolen. Fell off a second story balcony with two other guys in a barfight and broke my arm, then went out to dinner. Met a women in the french quarter from BAHSTEN who told me she was a speech thewapist. We had a great time on Bourbon St. Next morning, at a stoplight an 11 year old by stuck a sawed off shotgun in the car me and a friend were in going to work at 0700 in the morning and robbed us of about ten bucks. Cops found my car abandoned and got it back to late to load it onto the ship for the trip through the Panama Canal, so I had to fly back to N.O. after getting to San Diego and drive my 5 speed home with a broken right arm. All in all, it was a great time. Loved the food! I actually did like the town, it did have a soul! If you read a lot about whats happened to the town since Katrina, you realize that there are events that can change a place forever. I don’t think that anyone who lived there before could have really imagined what the city has become now.
John Larroquette once said about N.O.”In the summer time when it gets real hot, they open up the fire hydrants and spray gin on the children.”
BIGLSU, As far as the pointing of fingers goes, I agree that it doesn’t really solve everthing, BUT, there are times when you have to look back at a bad situation and ask yourself, how did we get into this situation. The past two times, 65 and 86, when we had to deal with the illegal immigrant problem, we punted. The problem was caused by an unenforced border and greedy employers ignoring labor laws to make high profits, in other words, we did not enforce our laws. The reason we did not is that so many liberal bleeding hearts and greedy employers kept saying, they’re just coming here to work, leave them alone. Ok, people like me fought that and lost. We did it your way twice and it only got much worse. We ARE NOT going to do it the bleeding heart way again! Enough is enough. This is not 1965 anymore, the worlds population has almost DOUBLED in that forty years from about 3.3 bil to over 6 bil. If we don’t clamp down that border this time, and we set the rules so that anyone who can get here either by hook or by crook will be automatically a legal resident with some priveledges that even citizens don’t have, we will be waving the green flag of the biggest human drag race in history, and they are already lacing up their sneakers. Don’t even try telling me it ain’t so, I live near the border and our office works with border patrol on a regular basis. It’s already happening. The question is, how many people do you think this country can absorb in how long a time. There is a such thing as a population growing too fast for the infastructure to catch up. The freeways down here are already parking lots, it’s getting harder and taking longer to build more housing because of environmental laws, we haven’t built an oil refinery in california in over 35 years, we have planned rolling blackouts now in LA and San Diego because we cannot provide power for the people here now, we have water shortages, hospitals closing all over socal because they are over run with non paying patients. And a heck of a lot of those new people are going to come right here! Why in hell would any sane person want that?
Enforcement-
The respoonsibilty for that is more on the Governor than the Mayor. I know Nagin makes a easy target but without the backing of a Poltical machine which he never had the Mayor is actually pretty weak.
As to the tents I was down there a few weeks ago. Most of the people that I saw that were tents were actually workers. There is no place to live while rebuilding. IRonically most of those workers are illegals or Migrant workers that if we did not have we would be in a heck of fix lol
AJ said –
Jerks like O’Reilly cannot tolerate the guest worker program with fines and back taxes due as punishment for working here without documentation.
AJ, I asked this same question of Anti-Herman, but he has yet to respond. Can you please tell me how many years of back taxes illegal immigrants will have to pay?
The reason I ask is because I have read the bill, and I can’t find it in there anywhere. When you answer, can you please quote paragraph and page number from the bill?
Many thanks.
There is a great article here about how employers are fighting the fined provisions for hiring illegals in the new immigration bill. Why are they doing that? because they have every intention of continuing to hire under the table workers if the bill is signed. They know as well as every other lucid person that the number of people to be processed way overwhelms the ability of the federal to do it, and everyone will eventually just be waved in.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/02/AR2007060201081_pf.html
Whoops, forgot the link.
If AJ is basing his opinion of O’Reilly’s take on this bill on the Media Matters link that is somehow linked thru every single post on this thread well AJ really has gone over to the other side. Media Matters is a George Soros organization. AJ what’s up?
(OK I know MM has never taken money “directly” from Soros. However, money given to other Organizations by Soros go directly to MM from the other org. Or what used to be called money laundering)
Bikerken
You fixed it!!