Jun 02 2007
O’Reilly Goes Too Far
Bill O’Reilly has become another example of the far right, Immigration Hypochondriacs running into the sewer because they have lost their minds and the argument on the comprehensive immigration bill supported by large majorities since it includes both border protection and a guest worker program. Jerks like O’Reilly cannot tolerate the guest worker program with fines and back taxes due as punishment for working here without documentation. And this intolerance is seen in their immature and hateful nativist comments, like what just spewed out of O’Reilly’s big mouth:
Bill O’Reilly asserted that the proposed immigration reform bill is supported by “people who hate America, and they hate it because it’s run primarily by white, Christian men. Let me repeat that. America is run primarily by white, Christian men, and there is a segment of our population who hates that, despises that power structure.” He continued: “So they, under the guise of being compassionate, want to flood the country with foreign nationals, unlimited, unlimited, to change the complexion — pardon the pun — of America. Now, that’s hatred, too.”
As a white, now non-practicing Christian man I can only say this: Forget You O’Reilly. Clearly you are insecure about people of color being too close to you. Similarly to how the Nazis hated the Jews for poisoning the German culture, too many on the right spew this garbage about polluting our country out of fear of having to deal with people of other cultures. And they call us Un-American. What an ugly and pathetic comment.
Addendum: OK, I cleaned up the text and the HTML – since I was trying to spill this post out fast so my family could go to downtown Herndon and see the fireworks and left it pretty mangled. And after reading O’Reilly’s full text I find less offensive – but only barely. The fact is O’Reilly was trying to include the far left as supporters of the current Bill – which they are not. La Raza and the other far left groups do not like this bill because it eliminates the citizenship option for temporary workers and requires the background checks to eliminate the criminal element. So instead of being 100% irritated with O’Reilly I am 98% irritated because the guy simply used a lie to try and scare people from supporting the Bill. In a classic race baiting move reminiscent of the Dubai Ports fiasco O’Reilly must have been trying to reach our collective inner Klansman. Thankfully not very many people would fall for such a mob-mobilizing stunt. Sadly enough do. I wonder how many opponent of the guest worker program (which has limits on the numbers allowed, requires maximum stays, has that tamper-proof IDz with an expiration date to get jobs, and no option to apply for citizenship) will take O’Reilly to task for this?
AJ,
O’Reilly supports a guest worker program. He also supports most of the components of this bill. Just like me, who doesn’t have concerns, just wants to belly ache and whine, O’Reilly saw things that about the bill that bothered him, after he had time to read through it.
Why I am defending O’Reilly is beyond me. Most of the time, he makes my teeth itch.
Terrye, first calling someone a liar is ‘name calling’, so if you disagree with their opinion, state that you disagree, that doesn’t mean they are lying, Does it. Remember all these people with BDS calling Pres Bush a liar, but the can’t cite one single lie from him.
If no one is interested in a bill or discussing it, then I see no need to read it. An example that Iraq war funding. I accept that it had a time line in it and that the President wasn’t going to sign it with a time line in it. But I wasn’t interested in discussing it so I saw no need to read it. Now had I wanted to know what was in it and discuss it, I would read it. You have been responding to comments all week about this bill and what’s in it and you consistently say you haven’t read it. Do you really feel as if you actually know what’s in it?
Your brother opposes the bill on basic principles. That’s fine, so if the basic principle is ‘ i don’t want any bill passed dealing with illegal aliens, then this bill fits that category and you know that without reading it. But if you want to discuss the details, how many border agents does it say will be added, then the best source would be to read the bill and see what it says. Many say this bill doesn’t give amnesty and true, if you read the bill, it doesn’t bestow “amnesty”. It calls ‘amnesty’ probationary benefits and gives that to them. What the hell is the difference? If you put lipstick on a pig and call it something else, it’s still a pig.
I’ve said this at least 5 times. I would be happy with this bill exactly as it is except for one change. There would be no probationary benefits and the forever legal status that it gives them would always be temporary AND it would only be AFTER the border is secured.
Now notice there, I didn’t mention deport, I didn’t mention a wall, and I didn’t mention amnesty. The temporary status would always be temporary and they should have to follow all existing laws for guest worker status or citizenship status.
Now if you had read the bill, you would see that would be a very simple modification and I wouldn’t care if the bill then passed or not, so to say that the ‘hardliners’ (another name for those that want the laws enforced) just want to kill the bill is not accurate. See, I said that and didn’t call you a single name. If you disagree with it, I won’t call you a jerk or say FU Terrye. But I will say I don’t agree with you.
As I said above, I saw that show (I see all O’Reilly shows) and it is my opinion that he said that was the position of the NY Times, not his position. I’ve seen no evidence, ever, of racism by O’Reilly.
he definitely isn’t a hardliner or a far right guy. He actually pretty much seems like a middle of the road person that is concerned about border security. I got the opinion that he would support most any bill if it secured the border. Something this bill definitely will not do and that it is not even intended to do. In fact, if enacted it would repeal or render last years fence bill moot. (the fence in that bill will never be built anyhow)
Here is a transcript of the show where the quote was taken. Kind of loses its punch, taken in context.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,276732,00.html
That Zany Right Wing Wacko, Fred Thompson, had this to say Yesterday:
RICHMOND — Former Sen. Fred Thompson yesterday said there is a giant disconnect between voters and politicians in Washington and that the immigration bill is the chief reason.
Speaking to Virginia Republicans, Mr. Thompson, who is considering a run for president, drew a standing ovation when he said voters don’t believe Washington politicians when they claim they are trying to secure the border as part of the bill.
“You’ve got to secure the border first, before you do anything,” he said. “The members say it’s right here in this bill: the border. The response is, ‘We don’t care what’s on a piece of paper — secure the border.’ This piece of paper doesn’t secure the border.”
Mr. Thompson said the new bill is “the same deal” offered in the 1986 amnesty — legalization of illegal aliens in exchange for border security — but said Americans won’t be fooled again. He also said the program is unworkable because it relies on an already overworked immigration service to process millions of new applications.
I guess he is as “Hard Right” as Peggy Noonan, George Will, and so many other “Exstremists” who do not believe in yet another Amnesty Now, Enforcement Never Approach.
More Zany Rants, this from todays Washington Times Op Ed:
Thus, the Bush administration should think twice before about the U.S.-Mexico Social Security totalization agreement, which would have the effect of transferring an estimated $207 billion in Social Security assets by 2040 to 1.6 million Mexican workers and dependents. The majority of those cash benefits would go to Mexicans who worked illegally in the United States. According to a recent study by TREA Senior Citizens League, a Social Security advocacy group, $207 billion represents the price tag of paying Social Security benefits to (a) 827,000 aliens from Mexico who used “non-work” Social Security numbers to work illegally in the United States; (b) Mexican citizens who overstayed their visas here and worked illegally; and (c) illegal aliens from Mexico “who entered the United States illegally on or after Jan. 1, 2004, and worked for at least 18 months,” provided that immigration amnesty passes and they gain work authorization.
Beyond the Social Security benefits that would be collected by Mexicans who worked here illegally, their dependents “are also eligible for benefits and could increase the cost of totalized retiree benefits by as much as 50 percent,” the TREA Senior Citizens League study asserts.
If Mr. Bush goes forward with his intention to sign this agreement, either chamber of Congress has 60 days to reject it. Both bodies should exercise that duty. In the meantime, as the ill-advised immigration “reform” bill makes its way through the Senate, the appropriate amendments should be passed to prevent illegal aliens from making Social Security’s precarious finances worse than they already are.
These “Exstremists” Must be stopped I say.
I just can’t believe That AJ and his Jamestown like followers actually believe these Aliens will actually have to pay a $5000.00 fine. Not only that, but if they are making Sub Standard Wages, WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO GET THE MONEY? The Left and Bush will remove that requirement. As well as the sham of back taxes.
There is a young man who lives just west of Houston who, at 34, is a millionaire. No, his parents aren’t rich. He is not a Rice U. Ph.D. He is a CAT operator who ownes his own business.
He got his first job at 18, learning to operate earth moving equipment. By the time he was 20, he knew the ins and outs of the business and with the help of his parents signatures, and a friendly small town banker, bought his first piece of equipment, a large bull dozer. He did a couple of small jobs and because of that, was able to land a land clearing job preparing for a large strip mall. On the contract alone, he managed to finance three more peices of equipment. He hired a English/Spanish speaking worker as a foreman who brought in three Mexicans who could not speak English. That large job lead to more jobs and more equipment and more laborers. By the time the kid was 30 he had twenty pieces of equipment, 60 laborers, and office and office staff. And a nice new 4,000 sq. ft. home. He knew his workers were illegal but what the hell, he paid them $8.00 an hour when regular heavy equipment operators earned $18-22 an hour. He even knew that they had gotten their Social Security numbers at Trader’s Village in Houston. I CE showed up one day and he provided them with the SS#s. He was sent a letter saying that out of the 60 employees he had, 55 of the numbers were bogus. (I guess his first clue should have been the one that was 123.45-6789 which he laughed about). He also laughed that all his workers seemed to have a spouse and 9 kids back in Mexico (for deduction purposes) and half of them used the same El Paso post office box number as their residence. ICE told him that they had better come up with proper SS#s so he told his workers to leave the job site and get REAL numbers. They all came back the next day with new numbers. Did ICE follow up on this? Nope. He never heard anymore from them. So now, when he files his taxes and pays the federal, FICA for his employees, he will get a letter 6 months to a year later telling him the numbers are not good and asking him to correct the mistake.
The point of the story is not that the kid got rich, the point is that he got rich very quickly by hiring illegals from Mexico. He could have done just as well by hiring Americans but it would have taken him longer to reach that goal. He bid his jobs using standard back hoe, bull dozer and other equipment operators wage scales, but paid less than half of that amount.
Do I care if he is busted? Nope. Do I care if he goes to jail? Nope. But he has told me that if he is required to give these illegals standard pay, he will just lay them off and get more illegals. He is not the least bit worried about the immigration bill and says it will have no affect on him as there are ten more waiting in line for each job he has to offer.
What happenst to the people he will fire? Taxes were withheld from their paychecks (although you don’t pay a hellofa lot when you claim 10 dependents) so they will apply for unemployment. It won’t matter that the SS#s they used are bogus or stolen, they have pay stubs to prove they worked. And then they will also be eligible for all other social services since there is no provision in the bill to prosecute or punish those who have stolen someone’s identity.
Steal someone’s SS# and use it for your own purposes. When caught, you will be prosecuted, fined and probably serve some jail time. How is it fair that Americans are held to a higher standard that someone who entered our national illegally and now will be given a free pass after they have totally destroyed a persons credit rating and mess up that person’s Social Security account that the government will do nothing to straighten out? So please, don’t tell me about all the fines and fees they will have to pay. The ACLU is already gearing up for that fight.
We don’t need another bill. We need enforcement of the laws that are already on the books. But if the powers that be have no interest in enforcing our current laws, what makes us think that with a new bill those powers will have a change of heart? There was an amendment to the bill to end sanctuary cities. It was defeated. There was a amendment to prevent gang members from gaining “probationary” status. That was defeated. With this bill, all gang members will have to do is swear they are no longer in the gang and they will be given a “probationary” visa. Big deal. They sign the affirmation and go right back to their local MS 13 gang house.
The Border Patrol has come out against this bill. Are we to assume that they have not read it so don’t really know what’s in it? If it doesn’t have the support of those on the front line fighting illegal immigration, can we assume it is because all those Border Patrol with Latino names are just right wing hypochrondiacs?
I keep trying to tell you about the back end of this bill and the consequences it will have. Millions upon millions of bottom rung wage earners who will pay less into the sytem than they take out of it, all at a cost to legal, taxpaying American citizens. And if you really think you can get a background check from another country, or even our own, in 24 hours, I suggest you apply for a concealed carry permit and see how long it takes.
The system is broken but not how people who tell us it is broken mean. It is broken because we have sanctuary cities, it is broken because we do not punish identity theives, it is broken because we do not enforce employment laws and punish those like this kid who because very rich, very quickly using labor paid sub-standard wages. It is broken because we have become too politically correct for our own good and don’t want anyone to think we are being oppressive toward people of color (be they brown or yellow). Tyson Chicken even went to Mexico to recruit illegal workers after they laid off hundreds of citizens of Arkansas. What was their fine? How was Tyson punished? And what kind of contributions did Tyson direct toward political parties. And what makes anyone think that practice will change with a new, travesty of a bill?
Steve,
Was there anything on those who worked using ss numbers that belonged to someone else?
There was a Rally Yesterday in Painesville Ohio. Seems the Citizens there have had enough. Hereare a few Comments:
“Were you aware that eight out of 10 illegal aliens don’t have high school degrees?” she asked, evoking loud boos from the crowd. “And were you aware that illegal aliens are costing the state $224 million and that by 2010 that number is expected to reach $372 million?”
Joseph Benning, who operates a farm in Kitts Hill, in Lawrence County, said he traveled to the rally to tell people that illegals are putting an unnecessary burden on farmers. “I don’t hire illegal aliens and so I have to pay things like insurance and workers compensation for my employees while those who hire illegal aliens don’t,” Benning said. “I have to compete with the farmers that are willing to hire illegals, and I’m fed up. I say to the illegals, ‘don’t let the door hit you where the dog should have bit you.’ ”
As the rally took place, it was reported that much of Painesville’s Latino immigrant community was in hiding after federal agents continued door-to-door raids this week, bringing the number of illegal immigrants reported arrested in Lake County to 37. The raids began in mid-May, when armed officers of the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency began seeking out 15 to 18 individuals who had not complied with deportation orders.
“Security is my first and foremost concern,” said Chardon resident Bob Bowyer. “After Virginia Tech, where one sick person with a green card was able to buy a gun – you give 12 or 20 million illegals amnesty and we’ll have a new set of gun owners. No amnesty, illegal is illegal.”
Many who took the microphone said they believe illegal aliens are taking advantage of the welfare system, are not paying taxes and that they are tired of Hispanics not speaking English.
Small bands of “Exstremists” trying to SAVE their Country, Their Culture, Their Schools, Their Hospitals, Their Jobs, and their Social Security, Their Medicade, Their Tax Burden, to be Raised and Passed on to their Children to deal with.
Yep, These people, from the “Hard Right”, they are the problem. They are the ones who must be stopped.
If you are an American citizen, born or naturalized and you work 9 years and 9 months (39 quarters) Do you know how much Social Security benefits you are eligible for? zero, not none, nada. Do you know how much benefits your wife, who lives in the USA is eligible for? the same amount. In the event of the citizens death, do you know how much his surviving children are eligible for? Zero. Do you know if you are an illegal alien that stole someone’s SS number and worked illegally in the US for 1 year, (4 qtrs) how much SS benefits you are eligible for ? Full benefits. Do you know how much his wife, who lives in Mexico, has never seen the USA is eligible for? Full spousal benefits, mailed at taxpayer expense, to Mexico. If that illegal alien dies, do you know how much his surviving children, living in Mexico is entitled to? full bennies, mailed at US taxpayer expense, to Mexico.
Is this fair? Not to me. But then I’m a hardliner(another name for those who want laws enforced)
I’m one of those Jerks that sold out to the far right.
Sue:
I never demanded anything of the kind. I don’t think anyone needs to just shut up and accept anything. I am not saying they should. I just wish they would come up with a viable alternative that can pass rather than kick this down the road. But people have the right to do and say as they please.
I have a client, an older man, he reads newspapers and he watches a fair amount of TV news and he actually contacts his representatives about legislation and asks questions. He is completely computer illiterate. He would have no more idea how to download a bill on the internet than sprout wings and fly. He also respects and admires Senator McCain and has for many years. So, is his opinion invalid because he has not read the bill in its original form? And if that holds true for this bill, does it for all bills? He always votes and he tries to be a good citizen, but he has not read this bill.
And most people will not, whichever side of the debate they are on. And even the Senators who helped write the bill and have obviously read it do not appear to have the same impression of it and its intent, so just reading it does not in and of itself even seem to bring clarity to the issue…perhaps because of prejudices or perception.
And if the opinion of one side of the debate is invalidated because they have not had the time or the energy or the inclination or the ability to read hundreds of pages of legislation then that same requirement should go for the other side as well. I know people who are against this bill because people like Michael Savage are against this bill and no one challenges their opinion or says they have to go read the bill or whatever.
We have a Republic here, we do not rule by referendum. That does not mean that people don’t have an obligation to educate themselves about the issues, they do, but it is not fair to disavow the opinions of other people because they have not read that bill.
Sue,
It wasn’t explicitly mentioned in the articles. But currently the Social Security Admin. says that they have around 9 Million Bogus Numbers reported. That doesn’t even deal with the STLOEN ID’s of Honest Americans.
The entire system of Immigration IS and Has Been Broken for Years. And as far as Enforcement, and going after those who have Stolen Others Identities, the Gov’t turns a blind eye to that as well.
That is why I can not understand the thinking that, well, “Comprehensive Reform” will fix this. Good Lord, how can you fix something by ADDING TO THE PROBLEM? Not just adding a few more, but adding MILLIONS to the Problem. There is a tremendous Disconnect between Common Sense, and those people who Religiously follow ever word of G.W.B. as though it were gospel.
They are Just like those who religiously follow the Global Warming Movement. Facts don’t matter to either movement, or so itwould appear.
Here isan email Debbie Schussel received. Judge for yourself if we have serious problems NOW:
READ THESE E-MAILS from high-ranking DHS officials who want me to get the word out to you that the Great American Sell-out is about to begin. They’ve been sending me these since well before the Club Ted (Kennedy)-Bush America Sell-out on immigration was reached:
The Treasury Enforcement Communication System/Integrated Border Inspection System (TECS/IBIS). TECS/IBIS contains historical and enforcement data on travelers, and provides a gateway to other sources of data. These other sources include the Terrorist Screening Database (TSDB), FBI criminal history and National Crime Information Center (NCIC, outstanding wants/warrants, vehicle and driver’s license-related data contained in National Law Enforcement Telecommunication System (NLETS), and Department of State alien records, lookouts, and status indicators. In order to expedite processing applicants of the TWP, USCIS will not use IBIS or TECS because the temporary processing stations will not have connectivity to the databases. USCIS plans to process 100,000 TWP applicants per day during TWP.
***
Debbie,
USCIS will not conduct an INTERAGENCY BORDER INSPECTION SYSTEM (IBIS) CHECKS on applicants as part of the TWP. This will increase the number of applicants processed each day (and decrease our safety).
***
CIS will NOT use IBIS/TECS Background Checks during the process of applicants at the Temporary ASC locations [DS: ASCs are Application Support Centers, where they will process Temporary Worker applicants]. CIS plans to open 100 Temporary ASC locations WITHOUT connectivity to IBIS/TECS. Will Congress be interested to hear the news that they are funding a part of the Guest Worker Program that DOES NOT CHECK BACKGROUNDS OF ALIENS????!!!!
***
ICE, CIS, Immigrations, Broken Borders, and Why We Can’t Catch Them
The Citizenship Immigration Service (CIS) is currently churning out
approvals of aliens as fast as they can get them. Adjudicators are told “verbally” that they must process at least 10 approvals an hour to be successful. Officially everyone is told “there is no quota”, but reality is the real issue. The real crux of this problem is that each adjudicator has 6 minutes or less to determine each filing, which entails looking it up in Claims database, a quick scan for criminal records and criminal history, a quick scan whether the petitioner exists, whether the beneficiary exists, and an eyeball of the original documents for completeness. If fraud is not blatant or apparent then it is stamped approved and off it goes to have notices sent out and filing.
Some of the really good adjudicators can do 20 cases an hour and that
doesn’t include coffee breaks or lunch. Of course the head of CIS
Emilio Gonzalez, stated to Congress that there is no quota.
Referrals are made to one of the fraud units (FDU) when the fraud is so blatant that it cannot be easily ignored, or it came across the desk of an employee who actually tries to do their job, in spite of the penalties that occur when a case (Petition or benefit) is referred to the fraud unit.
Don’t be confused, but there are several fraud units all located at
basically the same service centers, and it is not clear exactly which
unit does what. A memorandum of understanding is pending to determine exactly what cases go to the Fraud Detection Unit (FDU) at the Service Center, or the Background Check Unit (BCU), or the Center Fraud Unit (CFU), or the Fraud Detection National Security (FDNS) entity.
The Washington controlled FDNS is located at each main service center. Each service center runs a CFU and now has a BCU, whereas the former FDU has had its personnel shifted to FDNS and to CFU and to BCU.
The CFU, BCU, or FDNS can send cases to Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) for investigation. ICE is floundering for reasons of personnel, lack of leadership, lack of guidance, lack of ability, lack of resources, and lack of morale. ICE is the only authorized agency that CIS entities can refer investigative cases to. Don Crocetti, head of FDNS, has FDNS personnel collecting data on all the cases referred to ICE, to include how long it takes ICE to open a case, how many forwarded investigations that ICE rejects, and how long ICE takes on an investigation. ICE is rejecting about 79% of all forwarded immigration fraud cases. These rejected cases are then handled administratively. A senior FDNS intelligence research specialist stated “if there aren’t 300+ petitions & beneficiaries involved in the fraud case, then ICE will not work it, and it will take ICE between 6 months to a year to tell us (FDNS) that they reject it.”
During this process, once the decision is made to handle the petitions
“administratively” a notice is usually sent out, an “intent to deny”
notice. This is not so great an idea, so even though fraud was found
(but we can’t say that) and ICE won’t investigate it further because it won’t be a name grabber in the press, we send out a notice to the
petitioner, lawyer, and beneficiary, to the address that is many times
itself, fraudulent. We give them 30 days to reply. Even if they were at the address, does anyone think for a common sense moment, that an
illegal (EWI – entry without inspection) attempting to obtain status is going to depart, just because he/she has been told to, when they are already here illegally?
ICE will not be looking for them, because Ice has already declined to
investigate. FDNS will process and send it back to the adjudicator, who will issue a notice and later the petition gets stamped denied. Oh how fearful.
How much fraud and where? FDNS has conducted benefit fraud assessments (BFA) since CIS’s last testimony in Congress. Congress asked the question, “How much fraud?” CIS leaders did not know how much and even with the current system, not all cases/petitions are examined, merely a random sampling. The average types of employment petitions have a standard fraud rate of about 25%. This means that nearly 1 out of every 4 employment petitions are fraudulent, and it means that a large part of them are approved, allowing beneficiaries involved in fraud to receive benefits and status in the USA.
But that’s not all…Religious worker fraud is probably the worst. In an ongoing BFA on religious workers the overall assessment found around 36% fraud of petitions from all religious workers (Methodists, Catholics, Buddhists, etc, etc). Even worse is the breakdown of percentages by religious group (which CIS was told specifically by leadership NOT to address). Islamic religious groups’ average fraud reached 77-78%. This will not be released since it, as explained in Apr 2007 telephonic conference, “lends itself to be misconstrued, and in itself may not be politically correct.”
Moral issues, morale issues, and “war on terror” issues, or even plain
honesty are not even a thought or consideration to CIS leadership as
they examine facts, figures, and realities, and mold them to say what
they want to, even to the US Congress. Somewhat like the CIS informal report about ICE and the fraud rejection rate that is in preparation and will be dropped on DHS leaders soon. And ICE thought they were in sad shape now.
But that is not all, remember FDNS, Fraud Detection and National
Security which translates to terrorism cases. FDNS is prohibited from
working with FBI or JTTFs until/unless ICE allows it (MOU). A number of interesting individuals are allowed to go on about their way, since FBI does not share why they want certain individuals paperwork held, and CIS doesn’t care unless they are given a reason. Once again lack of coordination between federal agencies has created yet another mass method for terrorists to easily enter and operate in the US, completely unknown.
A local FDNS supervisor has stated “we don’t work national security
issues. We will only work fraud.” FDNS headquarters is still “in
formation” for its national security unit. It received a lot of
government money to conduct this mission, which still remains unrealized at every level.
When Michael Maxwell, former Director of Security at CIS testified before Congress, he spoke about the 6 minute rule and the failure of ICE to investigate and Don Crocetti–Director of CIS’ Fraud Detection National Security Unit–keeping statistics on ICE investigations. At the time, the failure rate of ICE to investigate referrals was about 70-72%. So it has increased (to 79% refusal to investigate immigration fraud)! Thanks, Julie Myers. Neither agency has changed–they’ve gotten worse. And with Amnesty, the nadir we thought was the nadir will sink even lower.
The Great American Abyss just got more Abyss-ant. To our detriment and ultimate destruction.
Steve,
I already know what happens when they use bogus or stolen ss#s. Nothing. There are not enough federal employees to do anything. An employer pays a fine of $250 and moves on down the road. The employee simply discovers a new number.
READ THESE E-MAILS from high-ranking DHS officials who want me to get the word out to you that the Great American Sell-out is about to begin. They’ve been sending me these since well before the Club Ted (Kennedy)-Bush America Sell-out on immigration was reached:
The Treasury Enforcement Communication System/Integrated Border Inspection System (TECS/IBIS). TECS/IBIS contains historical and enforcement data on travelers, and provides a gateway to other sources of data. These other sources include the Terrorist Screening Database (TSDB), FBI criminal history and National Crime Information Center (NCIC, outstanding wants/warrants, vehicle and driver’s license-related data contained in National Law Enforcement Telecommunication System (NLETS), and Department of State alien records, lookouts, and status indicators. In order to expedite processing applicants of the TWP, USCIS will not use IBIS or TECS because the temporary processing stations will not have connectivity to the databases. USCIS plans to process 100,000 TWP applicants per day during TWP.
***
Debbie,
USCIS will not conduct an INTERAGENCY BORDER INSPECTION SYSTEM (IBIS) CHECKS on applicants as part of the TWP. This will increase the number of applicants processed each day (and decrease our safety).
***
CIS will NOT use IBIS/TECS Background Checks during the process of applicants at the Temporary ASC locations [DS: ASCs are Application Support Centers, where they will process Temporary Worker applicants]. CIS plans to open 100 Temporary ASC locations WITHOUT connectivity to IBIS/TECS. Will Congress be interested to hear the news that they are funding a part of the Guest Worker Program that DOES NOT CHECK BACKGROUNDS OF ALIENS????!!!!
***
ICE, CIS, Immigrations, Broken Borders, and Why We Can’t Catch Them
The Citizenship Immigration Service (CIS) is currently churning out
approvals of aliens as fast as they can get them. Adjudicators are told “verbally” that they must process at least 10 approvals an hour to be successful. Officially everyone is told “there is no quota”, but reality is the real issue. The real crux of this problem is that each adjudicator has 6 minutes or less to determine each filing, which entails looking it up in Claims database, a quick scan for criminal records and criminal history, a quick scan whether the petitioner exists, whether the beneficiary exists, and an eyeball of the original documents for completeness. If fraud is not blatant or apparent then it is stamped approved and off it goes to have notices sent out and filing.
Some of the really good adjudicators can do 20 cases an hour and that
doesn’t include coffee breaks or lunch. Of course the head of CIS
Emilio Gonzalez, stated to Congress that there is no quota.
Referrals are made to one of the fraud units (FDU) when the fraud is so blatant that it cannot be easily ignored, or it came across the desk of an employee who actually tries to do their job, in spite of the penalties that occur when a case (Petition or benefit) is referred to the fraud unit.
Don’t be confused, but there are several fraud units all located at
basically the same service centers, and it is not clear exactly which
unit does what. A memorandum of understanding is pending to determine exactly what cases go to the Fraud Detection Unit (FDU) at the Service Center, or the Background Check Unit (BCU), or the Center Fraud Unit (CFU), or the Fraud Detection National Security (FDNS) entity.
The Washington controlled FDNS is located at each main service center. Each service center runs a CFU and now has a BCU, whereas the former FDU has had its personnel shifted to FDNS and to CFU and to BCU.
The CFU, BCU, or FDNS can send cases to Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) for investigation. ICE is floundering for reasons of personnel, lack of leadership, lack of guidance, lack of ability, lack of resources, and lack of morale. ICE is the only authorized agency that CIS entities can refer investigative cases to. Don Crocetti, head of FDNS, has FDNS personnel collecting data on all the cases referred to ICE, to include how long it takes ICE to open a case, how many forwarded investigations that ICE rejects, and how long ICE takes on an investigation. ICE is rejecting about 79% of all forwarded immigration fraud cases. These rejected cases are then handled administratively. A senior FDNS intelligence research specialist stated “if there aren’t 300+ petitions & beneficiaries involved in the fraud case, then ICE will not work it, and it will take ICE between 6 months to a year to tell us (FDNS) that they reject it.”
During this process, once the decision is made to handle the petitions
“administratively” a notice is usually sent out, an “intent to deny”
notice. This is not so great an idea, so even though fraud was found
(but we can’t say that) and ICE won’t investigate it further because it won’t be a name grabber in the press, we send out a notice to the
petitioner, lawyer, and beneficiary, to the address that is many times
itself, fraudulent. We give them 30 days to reply. Even if they were at the address, does anyone think for a common sense moment, that an
illegal (EWI – entry without inspection) attempting to obtain status is going to depart, just because he/she has been told to, when they are already here illegally?
ICE will not be looking for them, because Ice has already declined to
investigate. FDNS will process and send it back to the adjudicator, who will issue a notice and later the petition gets stamped denied. Oh how fearful.
How much fraud and where? FDNS has conducted benefit fraud assessments (BFA) since CIS’s last testimony in Congress. Congress asked the question, “How much fraud?” CIS leaders did not know how much and even with the current system, not all cases/petitions are examined, merely a random sampling. The average types of employment petitions have a standard fraud rate of about 25%. This means that nearly 1 out of every 4 employment petitions are fraudulent, and it means that a large part of them are approved, allowing beneficiaries involved in fraud to receive benefits and status in the USA.
But that’s not all…Religious worker fraud is probably the worst. In an ongoing BFA on religious workers the overall assessment found around 36% fraud of petitions from all religious workers (Methodists, Catholics, Buddhists, etc, etc). Even worse is the breakdown of percentages by religious group (which CIS was told specifically by leadership NOT to address). Islamic religious groups’ average fraud reached 77-78%. This will not be released since it, as explained in Apr 2007 telephonic conference, “lends itself to be misconstrued, and in itself may not be politically correct.”
Moral issues, morale issues, and “war on terror” issues, or even plain
honesty are not even a thought or consideration to CIS leadership as
they examine facts, figures, and realities, and mold them to say what
they want to, even to the US Congress. Somewhat like the CIS informal report about ICE and the fraud rejection rate that is in preparation and will be dropped on DHS leaders soon. And ICE thought they were in sad shape now.
But that is not all, remember FDNS, Fraud Detection and National
Security which translates to terrorism cases. FDNS is prohibited from
working with FBI or JTTFs until/unless ICE allows it (MOU). A number of interesting individuals are allowed to go on about their way, since FBI does not share why they want certain individuals paperwork held, and CIS doesn’t care unless they are given a reason. Once again lack of coordination between federal agencies has created yet another mass method for terrorists to easily enter and operate in the US, completely unknown.
A local FDNS supervisor has stated “we don’t work national security
issues. We will only work fraud.” FDNS headquarters is still “in
formation” for its national security unit. It received a lot of
government money to conduct this mission, which still remains unrealized at every level.
When Michael Maxwell, former Director of Security at CIS testified before Congress, he spoke about the 6 minute rule and the failure of ICE to investigate and Don Crocetti–Director of CIS’ Fraud Detection National Security Unit–keeping statistics on ICE investigations. At the time, the failure rate of ICE to investigate referrals was about 70-72%. So it has increased (to 79% refusal to investigate immigration fraud)! Thanks, Julie Myers. Neither agency has changed–they’ve gotten worse. And with Amnesty, the nadir we thought was the nadir will sink even lower.
The Great American Abyss just got more Abyss-ant. To our detriment and ultimate destruction.
Stevevvs
Funny, I live east of Cleveland. (Check out where Painesville is located). This is the first I have heard of this “rally”.
Why are you trying to make this out as some mass demostration?
Since you are a local expert:
What’s the weather this week in Cleveland? Also, When is the work on I-90 around Mentor going to be done?
stevevvs,
You and Debbie have graduated to useful puppets of people in DC who spread unsubstantiated rumors to stoke fear into those running scared. Congrats. This is what happens when amatuers play in DC’s cut throat politics game. Did it ever occur to you this is all BS being spilled by someone who wants to gain power from Bush or Reps? Of course not!
Dude, why would someone not use a database for background checks that only requires a network connection to access from any where in the country???
Talk about paranoid delusions. You folks are as bad as those who claim Bush was behind 9-11. Pathetic.
Anti Herman,
There was a Rally Yesterday in Painesville Ohio. Seems the Citizens there have had enough. Here are a few Comments:
Why are you trying to make this out as some mass demostration?
I was un aware I was! Just reporting what was in the local newspaper. I think YOU are trying to make it that way.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1843996/posts
That is the link.
AJ, Sorry for the Double post. I waited 10 minutes, when it did not post, I tried again. Then, of course, both appeared!
Here is what happens when your Social Security number is stolen. It is usually not caught until the card holder receives their yearly statement from SS. It is then that you learn that you have more earning on record than you actually earned. You then have to go to the SS office and request that they provide you with the records of payments. At that point, a person in Vermont, may learn that earnings from Arizona are being credited to their SS account.
You then have to prove that you are who you say you are and provide them will proof of your earnings. You also have to prove that you were not in another state working another job. This sometimes requires an affidavit from your employer saying that you were employed by them for the full year. The SS office opens an investigation. Months later, after even more money has been dumped into your account, the SS office is still “looking into it”. But now you have the IRS involved as they show more earnings than you reported on your tax return. So the whole process starts all over again.
After about a year of dealing with SS and IRS, you finally hire a lawyer to try to straighten the mess out. The SS office tells you that yes, they understand that someone is using your number but they don’t know what to do with the funds that person has paid into your account as there is no where for them to put the funds EXCEPT to your account. The IRS has now sent you a tax bill, complete with late fees, fines and penalties because you did not report all your earnings and your tax burden has changed (become greater). You asked for a new Social Security number and are refused. Once you get it, it is yours.
You pull your credit ratings and more often than not, you find you have collections on them for unpaid accounts opened in your name, be it satellite service, cable service, utility bills, retail store accounts, etc. in the states where you have never worked. More legal hasseling.
If you are lucky, you can locate the person using your number but don’t think that anything will be done about it. That person will not be arrested, they will still continue to work using your SS# and you will still, five years later, be going through the same nightmare.
And for all this crime, this bill provides no punishment for those who have stolen someone else’s identity.
BTW,
Stevevvs – who do you think will process the deportation of all the immigrants if the far right got their way? LOL! You guessed it. The same people who supposedly are referenced in that silly propaganda piece you posted. So whatever you wanted won’t work either. So we do nothing – right?
Always you folks leave us with more of the same. That song is getting really old!
Retired,
Spot on. I work for a tax attorney and the situation you described is one we deal with on a monthly basis.
And my question is this. What happens when those persons who have been using bogus and/or stolen ss #s show up wanting credit for the earnings that were attached to your number? Who pays the attorney fees for the years spent trying to undo what was not caused by the person having to pay the attorney? Does it disqualify them from citizenship for committing not one but two crimes? The first being here illegally, the second stealing ? It isn’t addresed in the bill, as far as I can determine.